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Collector and Specification http port do not match #1816

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dyladan opened this issue Jul 14, 2021 · 10 comments
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Collector and Specification http port do not match #1816

dyladan opened this issue Jul 14, 2021 · 10 comments
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dyladan commented Jul 14, 2021

The specification says the default OTLP/HTTP port is 4317 [link]

The collector itself defaults to port 55681 [code link] [docs link]

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dyladan commented Jul 19, 2021

Should I open this in the collector?

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Related issue on collector repo open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3617

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So currently the Spec indeed mentions 4317 is the default port for both gRPC and http - however (as @jmacd mentioned in the last Collector SIG call, IIRC), we at Lightstep had a few problems running different protocols in the very same port. Wondering how bad would it be to change that now?

E.g. @bogdandrutu suggested to go with 4318 for http, which I'd support.

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Doesn't seem like 4318 has been claimed by OTel yet

https://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=4318

Unlike e.g. 4317

https://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=4317

Not sure how that happens but probably would need it if using 4318.

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Not sure how that happens but probably would need it if using 4318.

This is described in #1148

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Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we had an open issue in the Collector to do so: open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256
The conclusion appears to be that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible: open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. I believe this means we need to change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318 and also submit for port registration with IANA like we did previously with 4317.

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@tigrannajaryan Thanks, sounds like a plan to me. Can you take on that? Else I offer myself to do so, as this seems to be a rather important issue.

tigrannajaryan added a commit to tigrannajaryan/opentelemetry-specification that referenced this issue Jul 30, 2021
Related to open-telemetry#1816
Fixes open-telemetry#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion appears to be that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. I believe this means
we need to change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged
we will also neeed to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with 4317 (open-telemetry#1148 (comment)).
tigrannajaryan added a commit to tigrannajaryan/opentelemetry-specification that referenced this issue Jul 30, 2021
Related to open-telemetry#1816
Fixes open-telemetry#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion appears to be that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. I believe this means
we need to change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged
we will also neeed to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with 4317 (open-telemetry#1148 (comment)).
tigrannajaryan added a commit to tigrannajaryan/opentelemetry-specification that referenced this issue Jul 30, 2021
Related to open-telemetry#1816
Fixes open-telemetry#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry#1148 (comment)
tigrannajaryan added a commit to tigrannajaryan/opentelemetry-specification that referenced this issue Jul 30, 2021
Related to open-telemetry#1816
Fixes open-telemetry#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry#1148 (comment)
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tigrannajaryan commented Jul 30, 2021

@tigrannajaryan Thanks, sounds like a plan to me. Can you take on that? Else I offer myself to do so, as this seems to be a rather important issue.

PR submitted: #1839

tigrannajaryan added a commit that referenced this issue Aug 3, 2021
Related to #1816
Fixes #1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
#1148 (comment)
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This is done now, closing.

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Created an new issue to register the new port with IANA #1846

tigrannajaryan added a commit to tigrannajaryan/opentelemetry-specification that referenced this issue Sep 27, 2021
Related to open-telemetry#1816
Fixes open-telemetry#1835
Fixes open-telemetry#1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR open-telemetry#1839
and then reverted in PR open-telemetry#1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.
tigrannajaryan added a commit to tigrannajaryan/opentelemetry-specification that referenced this issue Sep 27, 2021
Related to open-telemetry#1816
Fixes open-telemetry#1835
Fixes open-telemetry#1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR open-telemetry#1839
and then reverted in PR open-telemetry#1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.
tigrannajaryan added a commit that referenced this issue Sep 29, 2021
Related to #1816
Fixes #1835
Fixes #1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR #1839
and then reverted in PR #1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.

Note 2: we consider this a spec bug fix (spec was impossible to implement), rather than a 
functionality change, that's why we believe this is an allowed change.
tigrannajaryan added a commit to tigrannajaryan/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Apr 20, 2023
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)
tigrannajaryan added a commit to tigrannajaryan/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Apr 20, 2023
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1839
and then reverted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.

Note 2: we consider this a spec bug fix (spec was impossible to implement), rather than a
functionality change, that's why we believe this is an allowed change.
tigrannajaryan added a commit to tigrannajaryan/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Apr 21, 2023
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)
tigrannajaryan added a commit to tigrannajaryan/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Apr 21, 2023
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1839
and then reverted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.

Note 2: we consider this a spec bug fix (spec was impossible to implement), rather than a
functionality change, that's why we believe this is an allowed change.
tigrannajaryan added a commit to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Apr 27, 2023
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)
tigrannajaryan added a commit to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Apr 27, 2023
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1839
and then reverted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.

Note 2: we consider this a spec bug fix (spec was impossible to implement), rather than a
functionality change, that's why we believe this is an allowed change.
joaopgrassi pushed a commit to dynatrace-oss-contrib/semantic-conventions that referenced this issue Mar 21, 2024
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1839
and then reverted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.

Note 2: we consider this a spec bug fix (spec was impossible to implement), rather than a 
functionality change, that's why we believe this is an allowed change.
VinozzZ pushed a commit to VinozzZ/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Jun 21, 2024
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)
VinozzZ pushed a commit to VinozzZ/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Jun 21, 2024
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1839
and then reverted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.

Note 2: we consider this a spec bug fix (spec was impossible to implement), rather than a
functionality change, that's why we believe this is an allowed change.
VinozzZ pushed a commit to VinozzZ/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Jun 21, 2024
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)
VinozzZ pushed a commit to VinozzZ/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Jun 21, 2024
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1839
and then reverted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.

Note 2: we consider this a spec bug fix (spec was impossible to implement), rather than a
functionality change, that's why we believe this is an allowed change.
VinozzZ pushed a commit to VinozzZ/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Jun 21, 2024
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)
VinozzZ pushed a commit to VinozzZ/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Jun 21, 2024
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1839
and then reverted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.

Note 2: we consider this a spec bug fix (spec was impossible to implement), rather than a
functionality change, that's why we believe this is an allowed change.
VinozzZ pushed a commit to VinozzZ/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Jun 21, 2024
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)
VinozzZ pushed a commit to VinozzZ/opentelemetry-proto that referenced this issue Jun 21, 2024
Related to open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1816
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1835
Fixes open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1920

Some historical context: we wanted to make grpc and http use the same port and we
had an open issue in the Collector to do so:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256

The conclusion is that there are technical hurdles that make it unfeasible:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#1256 (comment)

Because of that we need to keep grpc and http ports separate. This means we need to
change the spec to say that otlp/http uses port 4318. Once this PR is merged we
will also need to submit for port 4318 registration with IANA like we did previously
with port 4317:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1148 (comment)

There was also a draft PR to merge the ports in the Collector but it was not completed:
open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector#3765

Note that this change was initially submitted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1839
and then reverted in PR open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#1847
because we hoped that the merging could be successfully done. We believe that we should
no longer pursue this and should consider the ports separate from now on.

Note 2: we consider this a spec bug fix (spec was impossible to implement), rather than a
functionality change, that's why we believe this is an allowed change.
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