October 13, 2021

Time/Place

This meeting is held virtually via Zoom, with an open channel for chatter on Slack. Anyone is welcome to join. Here is the info:

Seth Shaw, Alan Stanley, Adam Vessey, Alexander O'Neill, Bethany Seeger, Drew Heles, Eli Zoller, Jared Whiklo, Jordan Dukart, Kristina Spurgin, Kyle Huyhn, Melissa Anez, Nat Kanthan, Sarah Goldstein, Kirsta Stapelfeldt

(Last 10 Minutes): Roundtable

Feedback that we should provide better announcements to the community over changes like this.
Nick Ruest concerned with open pull requests and the Git history, but unclear about whether or not this actually happens.
Nat has some concerns - we can't install roles separately now, which limits the ability to use the roles modularly. Some of the galaxies were not downloaded frequently, but the idea was that we could use them in different contexts which we can't do now. Advocates for keeping it separate for these customized deployments of books.
Jared found the playbook difficult for local development and did not think people were still using Playbook roles for deployment, but rather using ISLE and manual installations. Using the separate roles adds complexity and difficulty for those that are using this for pure development.
Eli asks: 'are we supporting ISLE and the Playbook and what are their separate purposes'? This is something that has been heavily discussed. It's not clear if either are being fully maintained right now.
Rosie agrees that it's been really hard to maintain and get PRs in with the playbook because for it to pass CI you need to tweak things to pull to PR branch and then remember to go back. These roles are very useful in staging and production where you just need to deploy. One of the challenges is that we've tried to make both ISLE and Playbook meet everybody's needs, from those developing locally, to those running a staging server, to those evaluating the system.

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