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1 but, 
1 A:  Yes [laughter].
1 A:  and, uh, anyway, um, right now I-, I'm not, I'm not there but [laughter],
0 B:  #There's not a whole lot of fabric variance there.#
0 m-, actually most of the women wear suits more than anything else.
0 her apartment again.  But it's really a big, uh, big, uh,
0 A:  And, um, I mean, but she was truly, she was truly aware.  I mean, I, I, I
0 the United States is changing because, you know, uh, now that so many more
1 children.
0 always look at.  And we probably put more money into the systems and
1 the stuff, everything we do over here.
0 know, mega bucks to, uh, you know take everything out and redo it and, you
0 solution, like the Sherman facility than, um, just letting it go in the
1 money for TI, here in the last ten years,
1 town is going down watching the traffic light change.
1 the, uh, clerk told me, uh, don't drink the water.  It's contaminated,
1 B:  as soon as we get it, I, I'll see that you get a bottle of it.
0 nicely, you know, the, which, uh, is what purifies the water when,
0 A:  the action over the rocks and all that kind of stuff [throat_clearing].
0 A:  Yeah. 
0 B:  Yeah, we're still pretty much, you know, in winter, as far as that goes
1 A:  Okay. 
0 nothing.
0 of forty [laughter].
0 B:  Really?
0 graphic at points.  But, uh, I think they're both excellent movies.
1 A:  Yeah.  Real scruffy looking,
1 A:  and it wa-, it was really funny, it's, uh, that, that he winds up
0 phone even with the machine.  I find people being kind of polite and waiting
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Uh-huh.
0 invade that second type of privacy where you do know about them and possibly
0 A:  Yes, yes, ev-, more harmed or something.
1 because [laughter],
0 like software is only given out to customers, I mean, you can't believe that.
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  that's, that's only part of the problem.
1 uh, those that are economically disadvantage won't have the ability to make a
1 school that you're going to.  [laughter] Can you tell this is past bedtime?
0 B:  And you're going to think, well, wait now.  Where's the other eighteen
1 the welfare system,
0 gun, my, my mom was getting a rifle for my brother that he wanted, like an
0 antique one and they, he had to fill out some forms, but I guess California
1 [laughter]  I'm carrying guns that aren't even mine.
1 B:  and they're illegal [laughter]. 
0 B:  I think they ought to teach people how to shoot them too, how to take care
0 realize there are a bunch of crazy people out there that, don't use it for
1 A:  #Yeah, yeah, they go out there and get# drunk and start shooting
1 back.
1 house so [laughter],
1 designed the house, so it's our fault, 
1 split open or something.
0 just as good as it did when we moved out of it thirteen years ago, so.
0 A:  I know it was, um, it's got a really good reputation and,
1 course, if I didn't think that way, we wouldn't still be living here
1 B:  Oh, I wouldn't doubt it, yeah.
0 A:  [Laughter] She's the most intelligent dog I've ever seen.  Course, I'm a
1 when we come walking up to the front door.
0 remember that, that song.
1 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  [Laughter] I, I think a good one was, um, there was a Peter Frampton song,
1 B:  you don't know what you're talking about.
0 B:  A running total.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 would happen to him, I wouldn't stay in Texas, I would, uh, sell the house and
1 take them away from him.
1 B:  Yes, that's real easy to do, I have to watch it.  
0 A:  and he just keeps that.  He keeps fairly decent records.
0 B:  Oh that's good.
1 [laughter].
0 A:  And see, the thing is, you know, he go out and he'll spend it when he
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 of them but one.
0 A:  Oh, I'm in, uh, down here in Sherman,
0 A:  that's got us in a little bit of trouble now.  That's why we, and we was
1 uh, you know, I think even one time we used it to pay our rent.
0 A:  Right, I've read that one too.  I only had a subscription once, but my
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Um, well I hate to, yes, I do [laughter].
0 tapes that went with them, but, uh, I guess not so much books although they
0 A:  All right, Amy, how are you doing today?
0 A:  That's pathetic.
0 example there's a hung jury here in Fort Worth, today, in eight to four and
1 dig through boxes in a dress.
0 B:  And the supervisor from another area came up to us and, you know, this
1 turn into shorts, you know.
0 B:  Um.
0 A:  Oh, my God.
0 B:  Yeah, and E D S is very particular about this, hair cuts, 
1 say I'm nuts, but I am more productive when I'm in pants.
1 A:  Yeah, that's terrible, that's terrible gosh.
0 So that's just,
1 then.
1 B:  I heard about that.
1 B:  I envy you your ninety-four degrees.  
1 B:  Well, I thought I heard a little Tennessee in there somewhere.
1 B:  Gee, you've moved almost, moved around as much as I have [laughter].
0 A:  and, uh, [static] they just published this internally, you know, getting
0 and I always thought it's not necessary to measure your time, just to go ahead
1 B:  No, no, no, not that kind of music [laughter].
1 up on stage and jump down on top of all these other people.
0 B:  Right.
0 A:  An old, Genesis?
0 A:  Yeah.  I saw it when it opened.
0 B:  Well no, now, well seventies music, I mean, I'm, like I said, yo-, disco, I
0 we're going to go from the, from nineteen sixty-nine when they took the first
1 so,
0 time, so,
0 B:  And that's a lot of fun.  
1 A:  That does sound like fun.  Well I've gotten some good ideas from you
0 B:  Yeah, that will be good, yeah.
0 B:  and got transferred to Colorado where I was living.  Uh, and, he had
0 training, actually who was from there.
1 B:  Yeah,  I don't know fifty-one stars on this flag wouldn't look too
1 A:  Of course you could annex Cuba, but they wouldn't like that a bit
1 [laughter].
1 B:  He was really funny.  Both of the ones I met have been really funny guys.
0 right, when they're ready for it, you know, that it will come about.
0 that we went in fifty-seven I guess.  And interestingly enough the canal is
0 the,
0 A:  Ye-, well, I, I don't know if maybe communism is the right, the right word
0 never met anybody who likes it.  Do you by any chance?
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  well, in some of the later movies he looks very effeminate,
0 B:  I particularly enjoy, I don't know whether you've had a chance to watch
1 bed, I have to get up and, and work the next morning.
0 than anybody else, but I needed the money. [laughter] This is five bucks here.
1 B:  I guess not.  
0 B:  To deny that, at least the majority of it is true.  So, you know, it
0 B:  and have a good evening.
0 other than, than Puerto Rico as a tropical island and consequently large
0 B:  Yeah, but I'm rather in favor of people being bilingual,
0 A:  Yeah.
1 B:  I'm sorry.  
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  all over the country.  
1 B:  Oh, are you also [laughter],
1 weather this year because we went to California instead [laughter].
1 New Hampshire you always have that kind of weather. 
0 had eighty degree weather here, 
1 A:  And that's so I could leave by seven. 
1 shovel sunshine, you know,
0 they're, no, no, thirty-two pieces.
0 B:  Painted them for him in real bright colors. 
1 B:  Yeah, I, I enjoy volleyball, I'm just not very good at it,
0 I'll be playing again.
1 A:  in line, and I don't see how people do that, that drives me batty.
1 was the, the Atari, toot toot,
0 B:  Right.
1 A:  that there, there is a pretty, um, I wouldn't say snobish [laughter].
1 A:  No, [laughter] you can't. 
1 [laughter].
0 B:  And, they didn't kill as many people in, in forty-five days, and they were
0 B:  Um, I do a lot of cross-stitching and painting, when I do have spare time.
1 B:  That's my case also.  I've got a new born and there's just no time.
0 B:  Because a lot of them are similar.  
0 A:  Yeah.  A lot of times you can do that.  I think, I the pinks, there's like
0 A:  #Pinks and greens.#  Yeah.  
1 B:  And just into everything, so there's not a spare moment.  
1 A:  No, that's okay.  
1 I was like, oh, I don't want to mess those up.
0 A:  this time of year?
1 B:  um, it's beautiful the next day.
1 B:  that, uh, we've had, you know, twelve car pile ups [noise], 
0 B:  on the free ways because,
1 B:  No, no.
0 them on Monday because for little kids it's, it's still kind ever dangerous
0 A:  to be on the side walks because they might be some live wires,
0 why they live here, I guess,
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  Mine has got a flat tire, so I'm going to have to do something about that.
1 B:  things of that nature.  I'm probably the best customer. 
0 tables, and, uh, he's been doing a lot of, uh, a lot of decorative type plates
0 background through most of the conversation.  Speakers were reversed but 
0 B:  Oh, my goodness.
1 B:  Yeah, I don't either.  It's not until you have kids, I guess, you
1 but I've enjoyed talking with you.
1 that I, you know, s-, wish, you know, that I could have that flavor but
1 [laughter],
0 your stomach to digest that meat.
1 B:  So, when you prepare a meal, like say on Thanksgiving, what do you?
1 taste because I'm, boy, am I a taste person [laughter],
0 A:  Yeah.
1 B:  This is my first call.
0 B:  Hello.
0 B:  Yeah, twenty-one {sounds like he is talking to someone other than speaker}.
0 A:  When do you get out?
0 B:  #[Laughter].#
0 A:  And then they come in last and they have this whole team, you know,
1 row, row, row and one person rowing, right.
0 A:  Yeah.  Well, that's the way it works.  I mean, that's, that's why they're
0 A:  You know, like all these people are just standing, sitting around, just
0 A:  And it fails and #you're dead.#
1 A:  -- what it is for us to make mark off models, you know.  It's like,
0 B:  Well, when you get, you know, when you get right down to it, the, uh, the
0 one of the things that we're doing which is probably the worst investment in
1 I kind of have to trade off, you know.  If you never see it you don't spend
0 you know.
0 It just costs too much, you just can't do it, you know.  So, I don't know,
0 B:  It seems to be a disproportionate number of blacks, you know, that get 
1 I guess I would, I am sure I would take the lethal injection.
0 A:  Type things where we're sending people off shore. 
0 be able to really, you know, send children to do that.
0 B:  I thought seriously about joining at that time, I thought it was a
0 A:  Yeah, yeah.  That's, that's been interesting, though, the kids that have
0 B:  Might not go if it was voluntary, but I don't know how they'd enforce it,
0 B:  Huh-uh.
1 B:  Like to have a volunteer come here and rake leaves and mow the grass and
1 A:  Yeah.  I think, uh, oh, boy [laughter]. 
0 people in Central America.  My daughter-in-law is Panamanian, you know,
1 just don't like them [laughter].
0 you'll spend money so,
0 B:  That's right.  See they make money off of it, whether you use it or not.
0 A:  #so that you# would be paying interest. 
0 A:  That's all right.  Sounds like you have a little one there. 
0 B:  I have two little ones.  Yes. 
1 and he gets it out and I don't even think I know my number [laughter].
1 A:  they figure that, that's correct [laughter].
1 A:  The idea is to use their money [laughter].  
1 A:  don't seem to have the same problem [laughter].  
0 A:  Yeah.
0 ones {noise like one music note}.
0 A:  All ((righty)).  Uh, I'll just hand it off to you and hobbies in our spare
0 A:  yeah, I've done it before and when I was in hi-, in high school and
0 B:  #Well, uh, uh, smoking and# all that stuff? 
0 A:  but, you know, seems like there's just so many things to do down here, I
0 the, and that sort of movement, and so it's, uh, quite the opposite, so
0 A:  Yeah, that's true that the different places in America that, uh, you know,
0 we'll see you in four years.
0 [barking], that's true, they, I think they look at it as, well everybody,
0 A:  Yeah. 
1 is which yet but,
0 B:  Okay. 
1 A:  We live right by the airport. 
1 baseball player to earn a million dollars?  That's the only thing I found out
1 A:  Beats me.  I mean, I know Yankees have won a lot games [laughter].
0 B:  Not lately though [laughter].
0 the Pirates will go.  And, uh, let's see, {pause} Rangers have got a new guy
1 A:  I wish I could [laughter].
1 B:  And you never see it.
1 B:  Ugh, that's about, uh, ten too many.
0 first hour he started looking at his watch.
0 A:  plug it in.
1 A:  Don't, don't ask me [laughter].
0 helped.
1 A:  Because he says age-wise he'll never be able to handle that again
0 B:  I'm, uh, everyone I talk to, uh, I file in my little book and do other
0 B:  Right.
0 A:  Sure, sure something like the way you'd do, uh, um, bricks around a window,
0 Santa Ana wind down here,
1 A:  Oh, yeah a little bit [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  Okay.
1 B:  ((That's)) unbelievable.
0 B:  [Laughter] It was tough.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 cars.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  You can see it here.  I mean you can just see it hanging in the air
1 A:  #in Colorado.#  Yeah for two weeks, it was pretty fun 
0 B:  And one of the best trips we took in last year we, uh, a whole bunch of us,
1 A:  Did you get a lot of sand in your sleeping bag and #everything though
0 B:  #Yeah, we had sand pretty much everywhere [laughter].#
0 warm,
0 being up there I can remember coming back down to our base camp area at, at
1 A:  #and a pump,# and we all went to the pump and we were all washing our #hair,#
1 B:  I mean, my agree is absolutely worthless. 
0 B:  Well uh, 
1 A:  Huh-uh.
0 me, because he knows, that I know, what I'm doing.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  But it's a real good meal because you have squash and broccoli and, uh,
1 you're fixing dinner.
0 A:  I think so too,
1 A:  Yeah, that was a sweet and I was like ugh.
0 given time and could not get out of that, no matter what, short of
0 we tend to be, seem to be focused in on it, as long as it were equal and
0 something that the country needs or what the benefits would be?
1 B:  Oh, you're dating yourself, man [laughter]. 
1 B:  that's, that's past the point now where I can use them as an excuse, but,
0 B:  Yeah, when you do fish.  Do you fish for bass or just,
1 bought, uh, I bought a boat, but I bought a ski boat.
0 Lake Fork and Cypress Springs and we've been to Lavon and Texoma, just,
0 B:  Yeah, well, that's what I understood anyway.  I, I discovered it was much
0 days, you know, like today, like this weekend, of course, it's too windy now,
0 B:  that you can, if you, matter of fact, if you, uh, get other people to
0 B:  Yeah.  But, uh, yeah, Joe Pool, is so close, uh, you know, close into
0 sometimes.
1 things but I haven't done it in so long that I probably wouldn't remember how
1 A:  I probably won't make anything beyond this blanket [laughter].
1 [laughter],
1 never get to it.
0 B:  But I've made a, um, few things, cross-stitch things.  I really enjoy doing
0 noise].
0 B:  Yeah [laughter].
1 B:  It's a full time job, yeah.
0 have to have people to baby-sit and such.
1 uh, what was that movie, uh, Mr. Mom,
1 clothing store is much preferred,
1 up with.
1 B:  Bob ((Macky)) and such [laughter].
0 something, then I have to moderate that because it's like I can't go eat out
0 B:  Wow.
0 have to slip some and you pay part of it this month and part of it next month
0 A:  Right, because I, I needed a backpack.  So, he gave me a backpack, and I, I
0 A:  Yeah, yeah.
0 she happened to be doing, and then, she would go to these, uh, arts and crafts
0 A:  Yeah, I know,
1 when a good time for zucchini is.
0 B:  [Laughter] I, I doubt if zucchini is in there.
0 A:  Go ahead.
0 B:  People say that it is somewhat better. 
0 B:  How about investing in the sun.  Well nobody wants to pay twenty-five
1 some, uh, I think it kind of washes down from, uh, from your area Linda
0 B:  Uh, but, uh, I've, I've noticed that, uh, this year it seems to have been a
0 A:  But it,
1 B:  Yes, I was just talking to my son today, he's up in Boston,
1 thing anyway [laughter].
1 East situ-, [talking] well,
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
1 A:  She thought it was different, you get to meet a lot of people [laughter].
1 A:  Oh, I try, I try to introduce some levity there.
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 questioning the validity of the results.
1 A:  Right. 
0 A:  Yeah, well, if you turn down the counselling, they will fire you.
0 B:  Right. 
1 A:  I'm not sure. 
0 ===========================================================================
0 B:  I mean I don't thing they have any redeeming value.
1 Although, I do watch some of some of those frivolous things.  Uh,
0 B:  But there's a couple of those I've seen once in a while,
0 A:  [Laughter] That sounds like a good idea.  I notice that, um, since we moved
0 nostalgic older movies,
1 B:  Uh-huh, I'm not that hung up to most things.
0 lot of good children's programs that you could watch they could watch several
1 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  I guess I haven't ever had any trouble with that.  I have more or less, I
0 A:  SESAME STREET comes on from like nine to ten, which is a good time and
0 timing of, of it is good, besides ((the amo-,)) what's on.
0 perhaps, this will be possible.
0 B:  Well, I'm trying to think if I ever even had a favorite one at one time,
1 B:  They even had somebody portraying Ed Sullivan, and it was very, very funny.
1 B:  Huh.
0 A:  Uh, yeah.
0 A:  Oh my goodness, we might actually get to go to a World Series, huh.
0 B:  That's right, it's kind of like Babe Ruth.
0 A:  I hadn't heard.
0 A:  Oh yeah.
0 A:  Yeah, because we usually get one.  We usually order our tickets way in
1 B:  It's like all right, whose corners is this one.
0 all kinds of nightmares.
1 B:  It was like we can't take it back you've got, we've got to keep it now.
1 our chest and it's like oh, your claws need trimming.
0 A:  Oh yeah, they do.
0 moved out of the house also.
0 one of the, the first ones that I ever went out [noise] with was with another
1 at night.
0 A:  Right, it was summer.
1 go camping.
0 propane and so I get my tent up and I get my fire place built and all that,
1 things going, of course, I got it going full bore.  I run out of propane.
0 B:  That's right, there goes his battery [throat_clearing].
1 him up the, the hill and,
0 B:  Great place, I'd love to go back up there.  Maybe I'll get back up there
0 were F B I people and, uh, uh, of the, of the few good things that were in it,
0 B:  Yeah, well, they keep it rather secretive, yes [laughter].
1 disappointed that Dustin Hoffman would do this [laughter].
1 you are.
1 B:  Oh, yeah.
0 B:  Getting people, uh, the, the work program and all the, all the make work
1 This is, uh, a T I experiment to see how talk, Texans talk to other people.
0 about it.  I wonder if they thought about it themselves or whether someone,
0 A:  Mitch Snider, I don't know who Mitch Snider is.
0 politicians.  I can't remember exactly what it was.  It was real general
0 B:  That's good, especially since you call that one eight hundred number so,
1 so probably knock T I profits margin way down.
0 B:  when, you know, these are perfect, so.
0 even.
0 things away, and I just think it's such a hassle, it seems like it would be,
0 A:  Yeah, what, they just don't howl that much anymore.
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0 couldn't play most the season.  They spent an awful lot of money on him, too,
1 A:  Okay, I wasn't living here then, so, I can't talk much about that
0 A:  Yeah, I think the owners have somewhat lost sight on that because, uh, they
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  I think there's still a lot of distrust for, uh, for an Arkansas man to
0 A:  He's a very good athlete, that is true.  
1 A:  No, I like the team, I really, really like the Eagles a lot, but, uh, Buddy
0 B:  Yeah.
1 burned to the ground [laughter].
0 A:  Well it's sure been nice visiting with you.
0 @@A:  We're having sleet and rain in Indiana this morning so.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  Yeah, I notice locally a major problem is Kodak.  Um, it's interesting
1 this black ash on their cars,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Right.
0 A:  #Well I was going to say,# right.  You could put it in, you could, you
1 patent it, [laughter] you know.
0 you to go to and run a program, 
0 A:  But, that's, uh, that's the only way that you can get to, through to the
0 screen and check where you wanted to start, and where,
0 page.
0 B:  Right. Right.
0 A:  Instead of saying, where did I make the error?  
1 A:  in this case.  After you load it up change it, hope that's right,
0 B:  Oh, yeah, uh-huh.  I sure did.
0 B:  Yes. 
0 A:  Yeah.  The parts and the labor is what they're charging you, they're not
0 A:  Something with, uh, a cuisine that's a little bit, you know, more
1 and my roommate go there every Sunday,
0 B:  Um, I usually have parties that are smaller groups.  I don't have, I've
0 B:  Oh yeah.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  You know, because you have, yeah so it you got to have, uh, at least have
0 know, written in about seven years, so, I'm not real sure how they're, how
0 A:  That's right [throat_clearing].
0 even have opposed it, it, it was,
0 B:  Yeah, yeah.
0 policy that in defending themselves and in, uh, in their handling of their
0 B:  What are your m-, music interests?  
1 @A:  Uh, just about any kind of music except acid rock [static], 
0 B:  Me, too.
1 B:  [/Static] Oh, really.  You're older than I am [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah, when he played DANNY BOY it just almost brought,
1 B:  Yeah, that's, that's nice to do, that is.  [breathing] I've got a,
0 well versed in, in kiddy music [laughter].
0 B:  Uh, uh, uh, I think I know who you're ta-, oh, I know who you're talking
0 B:  Oh, I, I've never cared for Hank, 
0 B:  Well, that's a shame --  
0 B:  a, a lot at, at the stores, a-, a-, at record stores, you'd, 
1 B:  Uh, I think they should do it.  
0 they had drugs in their body, I mean they were fired on the spot.
0 B:  There was no ifs, ands or buts about it.  
0 B:  Y-,
1 nothing you can do because they not drunk.
0 B:  Yeah, but then you can look at it there, too, well, alcohol's legal.
1 A:  it's like, huh-uh, huh-uh, no.  They need, they need some help, too
0 world, but, uh, it gave them something to do.
0 need demolishing, or need fixing up, so --
1 ============================================================================
1 A:  I agree [laughter].  
1 A:  I got one tonight about six thirty when I sat down to eat dinner, carpet
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 to do is have to answer the phone.  And if it's some salesman, that just makes
1 A:  Huh [laughter].  
1 A:  I didn't think we could go too far on this privacy thing, but, uh,
0 B:  [Laughter].  
0 A:  You seen, uh, EDWARD SCISSORHANDS?  
0 B:  Yeah, huh [sniffing].  
0 A:  -- and, uh, it's about a, uh, piece of land that he rents.  Uh, he works,
0 B:  I, I, one of the things that I was really impressed with, uh, she has to
0 B:  Uh, [smacks] I, am quite positive on the things that I have seen
0 B:  Uh, I know that there are young people, characterized, I guess as being
0 A:  Right.  
0 A:  do stuff.  
1 A:  hours a week or five percent of their salary,
1 A:  we could, they could solve all the world's problems or something.
1 we could, uh,
1 B:  [Sniffing].
1 A:  Long way, uh,
0 A:  #Because we have,# you know, every-, everywhere that a tree is down people
0 B:  -- so much as, we just want to help people out.  So it's real neat.
0 A:  But, uh, 
0 B:  [Sniffing].
0 B:  Right.
1 know I could never afford to go visit a kid in Guatemala.
0 B:  #Right, that's the way I am.#
0 beliefs in capital punishment, but when it comes right down to it, #yeah,#
0 A:  #There are a lot of# people that aren't guilty that's in jail. 
1 punishment, but if I were sitting on a jury and had to make the decision
1 B:  Is it?  I, I'm from, I've lived in Ohio and I didn't realize that
1 B:  Well, see he shouldn't have been trying to slit her throat anyway
1 mom would probably kill us, but [laughter],
0 A:  -- I'm not sure that that's not a bad idea and, or the military for a year
0 B:  Yeah [sniffing].
0 A:  I think it's a really a good thing.  I, I like to see, of course, there's,
1 B:  Oh, I got ahead of you there.  I got three and one on the way [laughter].
0 A:  Uh, maybe it's not like it is nowadays really,
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, I wh-,
0 B:  Exactly.   
0 B:  just know they're close by.   
1 B:  [Laughter] I'm jealous.   
1 trunk?
1 A:  And he said, a what?  And I said, a tire tool.   
1 @@B:  Yeah, right.  [laughter].  Like oil, [laughter] or oil [laughter].
1 the big ten, a prestigious conference, I joined the marching band.
1 B:  At least start saving.   
1 B:  Uh-huh.    
1 B:  Well, yeah, somewhat [laughter]. 
0 A:  That's true, yeah.   
1 B:  Whether you like the mascot or not, or whether [laughter] it's close by.
1 B:  Tried to have fun.   
1 B:  Well, wonder if, if this advice was, uh, worth following for, uh, choosing
0 Speaker B had his T V on extremely loud and could be heard 
0 don't really need their help to do that.
0 A:  Yeah.  Well, I had heard a couple of people, you know, that I had talked to
0 B:  Oh, I'm with you, I have to check T NEWS every, everyday.  It's my
0 the season, and the Cardinals got killed by the Cowboys, so.
0 but anyway [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  there's no question about that, so.
0 that was real close to the good section [laughter] but in the little bit
0 B:  Yeah, I've, I've been over there from time to time.  Uh, you're, you're at
0 B:  Wolf pack, okay.
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, I re-,
0 B:  Right.
1 what time it was.
0 A:  Dayton, Ohio, I'm from North Carolina.
0 A:  In Raleigh.
0 been around for over forty years, and we're just really, uh, uh, now, trying
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 did, (( )) you make very good money up here.  He goes, yeah, I make a lot, a
0 B:  It, it, it like cuts your trash can in half so you could put cans on one
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
1 apartment [laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 A:  Well, I can go even better than that, I've never seen DALLAS either
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 knocked off.
1 B:  Good.
0 A:  Oh really.
0 A:  {Takes a deep breath} Well, credit cards, boy, that's an easy topic,
1 something I want [laughter].
0 A:  There's a big difference there.
1 A:  You know, I just, I'm just shocked at the end of the month,
0 B:  But, you know, um, I, I have some feelings about it in the sense that I
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  See, now in a situation like that, the boys are only sixteen years old, and
1 more.
0 B:  Um.
1 they, they had, they had three kinds of potatoes.
1 A:  They had mashed potatoes, they had French fries, and they had au gratin.
1 A:  That's overdoing it.
0 A:  But, uh, I usually, I can usually find something to eat there, even if it's
1 [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah.  Who's the coach's name?
0 B:  He, uh, I don't know, he's got a million dollar contract when he quits.
0 favorite.  It's just that I haven't watched many sports this year, or in the
1 B:  My husband's sitting here putting four fingers in my face [laughter].
0 B:  But Louisville's is higher than most other universities and, 
0 or SIXTY MINUTES, I can't remember which one, and got blasted.  Uh, you know,
1 B:  So, but, uh, Denny Crum ran his mouth a little bit too much [laughter].
0 B:  More powerful than you think.
0 weekend.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 all these people employed, right?
1 B:  #And, and #[laughter],
0 A:  No [laughter],
1 B:  Um, that's interesting, and how many administrators is that going to take?
0 B:  Yeah, well, that's, that's part of where my son is, um, would like to go to
0 it, the question of, of, you know, of how far should you take a kid in the
1 anything.  Oh another things that's wrong with schools, this is big,
1 think they have to do that because most everybody passes.
0 A:  I don't either.
0 B:  I have nothing to say about this.
0 B:  But, uh,
1 B:  Yeah, well.  I doubt that, but,
1 [laughter] I, that's what I planted.
0 evergreen type shrubs.
0 B:  Yeah, I do that myself, too.  I really don't appreciate them calling me up
1 A:  -- doesn't look too good.  So I can't say anything about anybody else's
1 B:  Okay.
1 B:  I forgot all about that that it had to be pressed.
0 family --
0 B:  Oh yeah.
1 A:  They like that.  
0 B:  Well do you, do you, so you go, if you're, if you're not doing any kind of
0 B:  -- or twelve kids?
1 A:  You know.
0 B:  if you really want it.
0 earn.
0 for your life insurance.  So then we, when we all graduated from hi-, college,
1 @B:  Uh, well, to tell you the truth, my husband does most of the work.
1 B:  No, well, last, uh, no I do enough other things, I don't feel guilty about
0 A:  Oh this, this comes with the blade on it, you mean?
0 A:  But they don't, they, they have special munching, mulching, uh, mowers --
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  I've been having it treated.  And it makes it grow much faster.  Uh,
0 ===========================================================================
1 B:  Hey, that'd work for me, let me tell you [laughter].
1 A:  I'm, I'm intrigued by it, but I'm not sure I want to go see it yet
0 could.
0 B:  Um.
0 B:  But he's kind of branching out.
1 player more so than he is, because he really played the part good.
0 B:  Guess it didn't last too long at the box office,
0 B:  and, The, you know, that kind of,
1 as well just plan on staying up all night, because you know [laughter],
1 A:  They're eight and ten.
1 people like us, you know [laughter].
1 mine, but the other day I got one about fishing and I thought, oh, my.
0 A:  Because when they listened to that tape they would have really had a good
1 B:  Say, well, I know it takes a fishing pole and some bait, and some water
1 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 in, not in Lewisville.
0 course, I don't know that that's real-, really weather related.  I think, you
0 B:  Uh-huh.   
0 A:  Yeah. 
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Yeah [laughter] that's the hard thing out that way, but,
0 icebergs that you see floating out here in the north Atlantic,
0 A:  Right.    
0 A:  Yeah.   
1 A:  I sure hope we, I sure hope we don't get a hard freeze, 
0 tickets made, everything, and the judge called and had it all canceled so he
0 B:  That ((it)),
1 A:  -- and I usually come away thinking, no I really don't like this show
0 B:  O'Gear {phonetically spelled}, um, I'm sure you've heard of it, it was a
0 trying --
1 A:  -- just, just to get a sense for, you know, how, how it affected them.
0 A:  Oh, TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES.
0 realistic upsets of the violence.  The violence can seem very realistic, but
0 A:  -- and then there was a big climactic fight scene, and they didn't remember
1 A:  -- or something, because I'm not that old [laughter],
0 B:  #I think# it's, it's a matter of both.  Um, e-, economics has a lot to do
0 thought or been told especially by the, for lack of a better term, women's
1 A:  [Radio] [Talking] Uh, being a former drug user [laughter].
0 A:  And what we do is we'll have a drug test if an, if a, a break or a man, uh,
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  -- cut and dried, you know.
0 B:  Yeah, I think that's probably true, too.  That's, that's, that's sort of
0 A:  Yeah.
1 time because I kept waiting for my name to came, come up, you know,
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Right, right, and of course, you know, they did {phone being moved around
1 A:  Um, yes, uh-huh [laughter].
0 A:  That's right.
0 B:  -- something like that.  And they, at that time, they had no testing
1 A:  And I just, you know, went, Oh, where?  [Laughter].
0 A:  Well, I was just looking around my house and thinking about the painting
1 B:  Yeah, yeah, that's for sure.  
0 this little bright spot you could see [laughter].  It seems like you could see
0 we've got all hardwood floors, and, uh, we, we've learned to be a little more
0 B:  Well, it's, it's not too bad.  It, it, uh, the floors are finished with a
0 A:  We painted every room in this house, some of them like two, three times.
1 A:  And, they just, they ruin, [laughter],
1 A:  No, I wouldn't think so [laughter].
0 B:  Uh, a little bit, yeah, yeah.
1 A:  Oh, we got to do that this summer.  We're dreading it.
1 A:  Oh, wha-, what else can I tell you about painting?  
0 uh, it's very, I don't know, it's called (( )), or they have loudspeakers on
1 Pierre, he's, or, uh, P-, uh, Pedro, he's the best,
0 was, that was safe ground to walk around, but, uh, particularly in San Juan --
1 arrange fifty-one stars?  [laughter].
1 B:  So, I don't know.  [music] And it's also a long way away [laughter].
0 to St. Thomas, and it just starts from the ocean up.
0 A:  And but you see a lot of advertising for that, uh, as far a vacation
0 to do basic cheese fondue, and I have two different kinds of breads and some
0 B:  That's always a good thing.  Vegetable trays always go over so well,
1 B:  Oh, definitely.  I think better even than, than other kinds of food
1 B:  Oh, well, that's good because I know they've been really expensive lately.
0 A:  Of course, their seasons are switched.   
0 chocolate like, unsweetened,
1 B:  Uh, I wouldn't know what to do with it.   
1 B:  We're just discussing what we'd do with five thousand.   
1 B:  I hope so.   
0 who an expert was.
0 showed that and it was really devastating and, ((it would, uh)),
0 A:  Yeah.   
1 the feminists,
1 A:  I think they should all wear signs.   
0 A:  If you can stay out of it, although I guess, although I did notice that all
1 fat to go.
0 right, you know, the right sex,
0 A:  Oh, yeah, God forbid you should make some kind of sexist remark and say,
1 A:  I think her background totally bothers me.   
1 large, you know,
0 B:  covered all the bases didn't she?   
0 Midwest,
0 us and, I don't know,
0 A:  no one has ascended to that level yet?   
0 down.
0 A:  -- to other companies so that th-, other companies can recognize our E mail
1 going to be in this home for a while,
0 A:  Yeah, it's, uh, it's a nice area as it were.  About the only two things
1 us really likes taking care of all that grass, so,
1 of neighborhoods that don't have these problems at all, and had I only known
1 next house is going to sit square in the middle of at least ten acres of land
1 [laughter].
1 strange mechanical beast,
0 B:  -- damage. 
0 B:  Oh, yeah.   
0 going to be paying off or have been or, 
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 a year, so [laughter],
0 B:  uh, I, even as a somebody making twice what I was making, how could you
0 B:  Uh-huh.   
1 B:  Yeah, and they have their own quirks and tolerances and,
0 B:  Yeah, yeah something like that, except it's, it's supposed to be really,
0 impression, too.
0 camera angles,
0 B:  radishes.   
1 A:  Yeah, these two cats, it's hard to keep anything around.   
1 A:  Yeah, really.   
1 A:  Kitty cat, what do you think about being a star [laughter].
0 B:  [Laughter].   
0 B:  Yeah, he works for them right now.  He's been there almost six years now.
1 B:  Oh.  
1 tonight [laughter].
1 A:  Oh.  
0 A:  Yeah, Rochester's a nice town, too.  They, they said that they had, had,
1 A:  Yeah, I think that was a logical decision there.   
1 and the whole island wanted to know when the hanging was going to take place.
1 A:  Okay.   
1 to the topic.
1 A:  Okay [laughter].   
1 A:  Well, say hi to Al, or Hal the next time you see him.   
1 B:  And, uh, so I've heard the name and, uh, well, back to the topic
1 uh, dog just ran off with my shoe, [laughter] that's off the subject,
0 that there, uh, that as difficult as it is, or as, as much as they try, they
0 was interesting that they think that they're basically impartial.
0 because uh, it seems like certain newspapers always espouse certain
1 variety to choose from.
0 A:  Um.  I really, uh, have gotten out of the habit of listening to the radio
0 B:  And, and so it's kind of a, oh, that's what's interesting is the C N N, uh,
1 A:  Um.  Well I am, we're fairly new to the area and so we're still shopping
0 B:  -- and this kind of thing and I think that, Dallas, it turns out, though
0 A:  Uh-huh.   
0 uh, probably not near as bad as New York, uh, I'm sure.
0 B:  Yeah [clicking].   
1 go to the beach next Wednesday,
0 B:  That's why New York gets so cold, because it's so close to Canada.
0 B:  I should k-, leave the ice out of it, but the snow is real pretty.
0 B:  Yeah.  One thing about the snow in March, it, at, at least it'll melt.  It
1 A:  So I like Gordon Lightfoot, do you know who he is?   
1 you know, my wife left me, my dog left me, you know [laughter].
1 A:  Very badly.   
0 B:  Yeah.   
0 B:  -- and I was in, like, chamber music groups and stuff, so I'm used to
0 much instrument to it.  You know, it doesn't have, like all the brass and
1 A:  They're not going to recruit me anymore, I'm through.   
0 toweling down her throat and up her nose [laughter].  Anyway, this is happened
0 A:  Something that I really don't understand is when someone goes to jail --
0 A:  What do they need cigarettes for?   
0 like and there's a lot of people that tell me that, that maybe my thoughts are
0 that do nothing but sit on their duff all day and here it costs us seventeen
0 B:  And something else that I would,
1 B:  And, you know, we're supposed to be, and I quote, in a democratic society.
1 haven't produced since then but, 
0 about football in the summer f-, from the, the World League.
1 before,
0 just too light in weight.
0 A:  Yeah, we had some pretty strong winds pick up this morning and they've been
0 B:  Exactly.
0 A:  -- and I worked there in the southwest for ten, almost ten or eleven years.
1 A:  And I, I been praying that God would put a desire to read the Bible
0 B:  -- so I like reading those to her and she really enjoys those.  So that's
0 A:  uh, oriented, yeah.   
1 you know, uh, gosh, if, if I read straight out of the Bible to her she'd
1 B:  That's right [laughter]. 
1 my gosh if they show that,
1 B:  Yeah,  
0 A:  because they'll take a classic and, and, uh, televise it --
0 B:  Yeah.   
0 uh, what we do is, we stay up till around one thirty,
0 A:  Oh, do you watch SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE?  What?  He's got what? 
1 A:  you better be so,  
0 A:  -- because we don't want to do anything like study or anything,
0 know.
0 give you like local news, okay.
0 B:  Oh, really, that's cool.
0 it's funny, sometimes it's not, but, uh, you know,
1 really watch that?
0 A:  and we came up here, we, well, we came to the United States in nineteen
0 A:  No.   
0 B:  whole thing [laughter].   
1 B:  intended to be the issue there.   
1 B:  Yes, and I hate it [laughter].   
0 B:  How about you?   
1 B:  Do you go through this, is this something that you go through every year
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 now.
1 use [laughter].
1 B:  Yeah, well, don't let it collect dust.  At least exercise while dusting it
0 B:  Get back in shape.   
1 A:  or Jane Fonda.   
0 A:  (( )).    
1 B:  [Laughter].   
1 elections, uh, even down to the, uh, school board type, uh, elections,
1 get just as good of results as if I through darts at a board.
0 A:  Right.  
1 just to do away with the cost of the elections,
0 A:  Yes.  Yes.  Not getting paroled, lets say in so many, 
0 California had it for a long time, and then they, uh, took it off the books,
0 B:  yeah.  Well,
0 A:  uh-huh.  Uh-huh.   
0 again.
0 I think that's what makes it so difficult.
0 if you take the (( )) to, to feed my sheep --
0 B:  and that, that, you know, and you, I think that's one of those things
0 assaulted --
0 Especially in the minority n-, neighborhoods.
0 told looking at it s-, all so, I have some bias in this.
0 B:  but, uh,
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].  
0 B:  I, I just don't see how a person could, could put enough, away enough
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  and I, burned my grass off here in the last couple of days --
0 that's five by ten.  I have two of them sitting side by side --
0 B:  -- and I put that down, and then I put up a couple of inches of pine moss
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  No, I never have.  I don't know how to prepare them.
0 dressing, like for,
0 B:  I have the room outside I need, and I don't really have all the room in the
1 house I need but,
1 A:  Oh really.    
0 A:  Are they a hard worm?  
1 he sprays his yard, and you get them back again [laughter].
0 B:  pretty, 
0 B:  Yeah, they are.  They real,
1 A:  like they do in public service.  I suppose the idea is to, um, I don't
0 A:  Well, I tend to agree and, um, in that we do live in the United States and
1 At least I, m-, I'm, I don't think I would vote for it if it came down to
1 @@B:  [Laughter] Does kind of catch you by surprise [laughter].
0 A:  Huh.   
0 is there a real high, uh, alkaline or ((ash)) content or,
0 areas.
0 B:  No, they're, they're in pretty good condition.   
0 B:  Yeah, well, that's neat. 
0 A:  uh, it was kind of pretty nice, but, uh, I just wish that I had an
0 opportunity to do a little more.
0 A:  and setting up and breaking down.  So, I decided that I would lease a
0 it's not all that much.
0 A:  no, they're not, they're, it's, it's too heavy for silver it's, it's more
0 B:  [Laughter].   
0 to fall for that gimmick but I, I have seen a few of them sell these things.
0 B:  Right.   
1 A:  I'll give you a nickel for it, you know [laughter].   
0 are, are worth hundreds of dollars.  You know, and, and the coins themselves
0 B:  It's really good.  You can do it with chicken too.  Chicken fajitas and
0 A:  And, um, dipping Arabic bread, the thin ((piece)) of bread in that.
0 cook my turkeys inside, you know, it b-, you can buy smoked turkeys.
0 B:  Yeah, it's been fun, it's been nice, it's, uh, you know, new to learn some,
1 know.
0 B:  Um, oh, I watch a lot of, uh, public, we watch public television a lot
1 what they accomplished,
1 A:  Well, I'm, I'm a struggling law student,  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Of course, I mean, it's got its bad side so it's limited by the
0 A:  [Throat_clearing] Oh. 
0 A:  Yeah, I'll tell you. 
0 B:  I mean in Dallas they do.   
1 A:  Oh, well, there goes a patriot missile, oh, well, that's good,
0 room.
1 That's what, that's just like justice for all [laughter].
0 killed Saddam.
0 B:  Oh, yeah.   
0 A:  Yeah.  Well, they, they, they get, 
0 A:  Uh, I think that's about where it is.   
0 B:  And then I bought a van and that way I can sleep in the van and be more
0 A:  and when they go on vacation a lot of times they'll just sleep in the
0 B:  But I, I try [laughter]. 
0 A:  I'm a sissy.    
0 A:  Well, not really because usually it's when we go off,  
0 A:  Just about.   
1 A:  But now that we have children and we go every blue moon,
0 B:  cooking and, and all that kind of stuff too.   
0 A:  Yeah.   
1 [laughter].
0 B:  Oh.   
0 A:  And then the, uh, they take them to a special part of our dump where
1 have the bag for the newspapers,
1 refuse.  It would have to be cut into four-foot lengths.
0 A:  They don't mash [laughter]. 
1 Styrofoam cups to fill up our landfills or, uh, china cups to use up our
0 B:  Uh-huh.   
1 once we got them through your courts but, uh,
0 A:  yeah, I would imagine the judge could throw it out.
1 you know [laughter].
0 B:  [Laughter].   
1 duty.
1 little realm, uh,
1 A:  Right.   
0 A:  And finally, you know, who knows maybe they're finally waking up and
0 over Mongolia or, or something like that, who is really, will we have been
0 A:  physically and try to, to remove them.
0 B:  Yeah.  Well, this would be like if somebody was elected president of the
0 B:  areas wanting out of it,
1 places,
1 magazines either.
1 B:  yeah, I'm glad you put it that way.   
1 wanted to listen to their kind of luted grammar [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah, Texas participation in the Civil War was, uh, minor at, uh,
0 B:  Oh.   
0 B:  That's a beautiful state.  That's a beautiful state.  See I was raised in
0 read those things, and I still even then I was so, so disgusted with it I, I
1 B:  Oh, okay.   
0 B:  Well, I loved that novel.  And then somebody said, oh, God, this would have
1 and,
0 A:  saw the movie here the other day told me it was the most terrifying thing
0 B:  I mean the book is, is chilling.   
1 human being.  And you're just drawn into his, his horror,
0 B:  Basically, well, I'm a vegetarian.  
0 B:  We certainly would.  
0 A:  but also the spices here, um, ((old bay)) is a spice.  I don't know if
1 A:  They put it on their french fries, they'll put it in their potato salad,
0 salad at a restaurant you don't really get a salad.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 she'll just have the french fries, you know.
0 B:  I was very happy about that because I, you know, I feel the same,
0 A:  I'll tell Laura about that.  
0 B:  Yeah, tell her about that. 
0 B:  Well, ((spinoccoli)), 
1 B:  No.  
0 Mike Riley had.
0 B:  Oh, my goodness.  
1 A:  Right.  
0 A:  Well, they're just head and shoulders above everybody else this year.
0 B:  they play so many sometimes I do think it's going to be more, it's luck
1 A:  Yeah, uh, somebody took the fire out from under them.  
0 B:  Take that,
0 A:  George ((Akals)) and Stacy ((Augmon)).  
0 A:  Their coach may not be there.  I think Jerry ((Tarkenyon)) may be headed
1 A:  Ever since Akeem changed his, uh, first name to Hakeem. 
1 B:  [Laughter].  
0 A:  They've got good individual players but some are getting old.  Robert
0 B:  Yeah.  
1 A:  because I work, and, uh, I have my dogs and I have a hard enough time,
1 A:  And they all have to have the same one, you know.  And,
1 B:  here kid, this is, this is all you're getting [laughter].  
0 parents there and, you know, helps the students or help the, the kids
0 murders too, isn't there?
1 B:  have kids, you know.  Career, to, to much into my career, you know
0 much that way over the Mideast.  And you have the Palestinian question and
0 just getting lip service much like, uh, the Ayatollah Khomeini.
0 B:  Because they're, because they will have more, uh, encounter with this as
0 B:  And, uh, we, we pretty much proved our worth in combat as it were.
0 the United States with, with the change in attitudes and all that, you know,
1 I'm just)) getting out of the olympics and I'm going to give you back Panama.
1 not used to having them over in six days, you know.
1 B:  Yeah.  They shouldn't leave anything in Bagdad taller than three feet.
1 @B:  Well, I tell you what it is.  It's warm where I'm at [laughter].  
0 A:  And, uh, it's got the, you know, the kind of the black freckled things on
1 everything (( )).
0 B:  [Laughter] All covered up. 
1 probably have another sandstorm out there, you know.
1 A:  Hadn't had one like that in a couple of years.  
1 dust storm come in and it started raining, 
0 all the rain start.
1 A:  Well, I am somewhat less than enthused about that, 
0 A:  Yeah.  
1 B:  [Laughter].  
1 B:  So.  
1 B:  Exactly [laughter].  
0 B:  Clear across town.  
1 shining and it would be hot down in the, 
0 checked it off on the list --
1 think we should be a little more circumspect about it.  Again, my opinion
0 spending.
0 we're paying almost eight percent sales tax, right now.  Which seems to me
0 B:  Huh-uh.  
0 here are having to pay such a high amount of their actual bring home salary
0 B:  I don't think we should ever give them a lifetime income, 
1 B:  Unfortunately. 
1 A:  It, they speak with forked tongue, don't they.  
0 cost more,
0 B:  Huh-uh.  
1 A:  Huh-uh.  
0 A:  That's so awful.  Well, what about in New York.  I guess you've gone that
1 B:  No.  Never been in New York [laughter].  
0 A:  Up in the, back in the east.  It's really,
1 B:  Thirty-one.  You're, you're young [laughter].  
1 B:  No, you're young.  You have a lot of life yet, 
0 B:  They say it has really made a difference, though.  
0 A:  Huh-uh. 
1 It's helped me to think more about some issues that I need to be thinking more
1 tent camping, and we had access to a motor home which is really super great,
1 B:  Yeah, the first, first couple of times it's pretty scary but, uh, 
0 B:  Yeah.
1 size, you know.  If you get four milk cartons and that fills up trash bag, you
1 B:  Yeah.  That's true.  And they won't raise our taxes.  
1 A:  Ha-ha  [laughter].  
0 A:  Talk to you later.  
0 A:  Uh, let's face it, today's, uh, means of communication, we could, a
1 the best resource,
1 A:  Barney Fife, I guess.  
1 morning, but not the NINJA TURTLES.  I like the old-timey ones,
1 recognizing what was going on, I thought, this isn't really very good
1 every once in awhile and I don't recognize anybody, so I guess that's a good
1 somebody about gun control.
0 A:  No.  And my fiancee is about an hour from D C, 
1 get it done.
0 B:  And it's about, oh, forty-five minutes north.  And, uh, Dallas is a mess.
1 B:  Yeah.  Oh, yeah.  It's bad.  And, and well, in certain parts of town it's
1 A:  Yeah. That's, that's just ridiculous, you know [laughter]. 
1 A:  You know, I mean, it was like, don't you dare stop [laughter].
1 A:  I don't care if there's a red light.  
1 There's a saying down here, all roads lead to south Dallas when you get lost
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 the window and he'd watch a policeman chase someone down the sidewalk.
1 A:  other than maybe a butcher knife,  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  and antique weapons.  (( )) he can shoot a muzzle loader real good.
0 B:  It was sad.  
1 gun.  And to this day they declare that the gun was not loaded.
0 B:  Wow.  
0 B:  Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
0 B:  Yeah.  
1 something,
1 A:  I would be impressed [laughter].  
0 B:  That's right.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  I've seen what comes out of the ocean, and I have no desire to share,
1 hotels with,
0 A:  So, uh, I've been through most all of that.  I've not done much of the no
0 B:  -- still, it's you know, nice to get away from civilization every once in a
1 their back,
0 fallen down yet, and sure enough, after I got out of there a little bit, it
0 B:  -- uh, I did see RED OCTOBER.  
1 haven't been in a movie since [laughter],
0 really, you know, I'd just pick up the paper and we'd go see a couple, you
0 B:  -- but no, we haven't, I haven't been to a movie in, it's been four or five
1 see.
0 B:  [Laughter].  
0 B:  Kind of drab. 
0 her.
0 B:  Yep.
1 A:  I, I'll bet they could hold their own in the N B A. 
0 B:  Pretty good.  
0 leave college before they turn seniors.
0 A:  Then does it really benefit anybody -- 
1 B:  I wish I was lucky enough to not want to work [laughter] you know.
0 A:  -- beginning, you know, their life in that respect -- 
0 know, that you did because you wanted to do it because you saw the benefits
1 going to jail for,
0 get now and --
1 and twenty-one.  The numbers keep changing so it's hard for me to remember
0 [breathing] and the only time that I got to see them was on weekends and on
1 A:  Because you ex-, --  
1 A:  But I wouldn't sleep on the ground.  I went into a hotel [laughter].
1 the mother turned around and saw me and took the kid away, you know,
0 B:  Yeah.   
0 [laughter] it was always something, some --
0 to do something like go out [throat_clearing] for the kids and, uh, she'd
1 A:  Yeah, I think you force it on them [laughter].   
0 A:  -- it's strange.   
1 B:  I don't know if that relates to that or not but,    
1 B:  -- but, he'd really kind of well up and be ready to cry over there.
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  -- uh, we brought the fish and he put it out in the swimming pool
0 costing everybody a lot of money.  It's not a major topic of conversation.
0 just won't go to the doctor --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Oh, I know, I know,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  I don't know, it's going to be hard to switch.  I think that we're going
0 @@B:  First person from, not from Texas that I've talked to.
1 them happen,
0 B:  -- and I, and the only reason I think I like it now is because I've seen it
0 B:  -- and I think that's, I like that.
0 A:  Okay.
0 B:  -- or somebody like her.
0 uh, any character that they could use.  I mean, you know, uh --
0 A:  -- and, well, of course, another one of their mistakes, I think, is they
0 S-, or Get Well Smart, the female character, Barbara Feldon --
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  -- or something like that, and I think it's the same with your characters
1 A:  Yeah, it's kind of nice [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  -- we, um, um, and then, you know, couldn't wait for the newspaper.
0 A:  -- Huh?
0 the POST?
0 A:  That was probably the best part of the news, was the, uh, some of the
0 A:  What are you studying?
0 A:  -- that you know, unless you have some way of evaluating it --
0 B:  -- yeah, well, at least, as they told us, uh, two shifts --
0 work there.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  -- bad news unless you can find a really good one, and those are rare.  But
0 A:  Yeah.
1 way through college, and then, uh, kind of hung them up after college, but,
1 hard Mets fan,
0 B:  Yeah, I,
0 the series bye-bye sort of a sneaky route, um, against Boston --
1 B:  -- when there was the ball that was sort of hit to Buckner (( )).
0 putting him in,
1 B:  Yeah, yeah, well I guess they were, uh, I guess they must have been scared
1 B:  Well, that's good, well, they're Brooklyn boys, I guess.
0 A:  Yeah [laughter].
1 but these two were definitely thugs, and they were from Brooklyn [laughter].
1 A:  I love going to watch a game in Arlington stadium.  It's great.
0 they, when Ryan struck out his five thousandth player, they squeezed about
0 A:  Ithaca.
0 B:  So if you know where Lake Ontario is sort of.
1 B:  Actually whoever built the city was an idiot, in my opinion,
0 uh, they, they were fun games to watch.
0 year, I think, if, I think, the young talent really just has to build itself
0 up.
1 almo-, almost starting to age a little bit here, I just, um.
0 B:  Well, that isn't too bad.  Just a couple of hours.
0 B:  Toronto, I mean, I want to go see.
0 A:  Yeah, it's a, it's a beautiful city.
1 A:  -- I mean, as a matter of fact, that's what we're doing tonight
1 get into basketball.  We even have peewee basketball here.
1 B:  Have, have you been out of the country?
0 B:  Right.
1 B:  But, what happens is we used to fight a lot, so there's never much of a
0 B:  Yeah.
0 know, like he wants to be best friends now --
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  Problem, uh-huh
0 A:  Well, may-, well I've enjoyed talking to you.
0 A:  Well, when it gets cold real fast --
0 A:  Because yesterday was really nice --
1 A:  Oh, is it [laughter].
1 female by any means.
0 B:  Yeah, we got at T I to drive into town and almost buy it undercover at the
0 called.  It has to do with, with airplanes.
0 B:  Eric van Lustbader,
0 actually are giving you information in a novel format, I guess would be th-,
0 B:  [Breathing] You know, you're talking to probably one of the si-, late
1 A:  Uh-huh [laughter].
0 A:  Well, [laughter] I guess you've got a choice.  Either you do life in
0 victimized, what do you do about it?
0 A:  Well, some people just are incorrigible, and there's no way that they can
0 what it's like to be in that position where you are playing, you know, life
0 A:  Right.
0 twisted that you wonder when they get out of there --
1 in a state that absolutely did not allow it --
0 B:  Or parole in, in, uh, fifteen, twenty years.
0 =============================================================================
0 this has been the first opportunity I've had to, uh, be working on my own lawn
0 B:  Are you getting a lot of static on your end of the line?
0 A:  Yeah, we grow a lot of, uh, the basic, corn, potatoes.
0 A:  She likes to really get into her pumpkins and see how many she can grow.
0 siding.
0 don't, and so I feel like the real motivation was something that, uh, most
0 World Order.
1 bit, but,
1 there's so much going on, but, you know, hey, I'm going to pray about it, and
1 A:  Isn't that funny.  I bet they're going to do a lot of research on that.
0 A:  The women I call Annie Hall glasses, but, if, I don't know if they're Annie
0 Z, uh, the Z cars, the Datsun cars end up over the border, and uh --
0 A:  -- Well, it's a big tourist town, you know, don't they, don't people go for
0 A:  -- and she doesn't work, you don't know, you can be better than that.  You
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 not [laughter].
1 B:  Uh-huh, uh, I didn't know that about Burlington, I'll have to keep that in
0 A:  Well I did.  Uh, and I'm currently, uh, consulting now so I'm with this,
1 A:  Ouch.
0 expensive or it's the most important coverage --
1 [laughter].
1 that I know, you know,
1 so.
1 B:  I guess, four years.  Yeah, yeah.  It, uh, quite a different world isn't
0 local one.
1 B:  [Laughter]  Oh, I know it [laughter].  
0 down here in Houston, it's, uh, the lines are long.
1 (( )) all evening [laughter].
1 B:  But, uh, if it, uh, gets down between two, then I'll, I'll vote for the
1 figure it's going to be.
0 B:  -- but we have a real good sense of where it's going.
1 what we prove to ourselves every month, is that we're spending more than we
0 B:  -- because, you know, if we didn't track it, we'd, we'd totally blow it, I
0 we're going to have to put it off for a week --
0 B:  -- and, uh, so, we've, that's, that's the, we're look-, we look it as, as,
1 B:  We're going, we're going through the exact same thing. 
0 we lived that way --
0 B:  And so, the only way to get out from under that is to, is to do some kind
0 A:  Exactly.
0 A:  Right.
1 A:  Catching tree bass, right [laughter].
1 B:  Well, I'm a fisher [laughter].
1 working with my freshwater tackle.  That was real fun.
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 really about it.  Mostly just the lakes around here, and I fish to take home
1 something home.
1 B:  -- my daughter caught fish, his daughter caught fish,
1 B:  That's right, I would go from one side of the boat to the other, and, uh,
1 even he started baiting my hook [laughter],
0 A:  -- that spill over so to speak.
0 know, put more money into it.  And I just don't have a whole lot of confidence
0 think we need to worry about, uh, how well the job's getting done.
0 --
0 in the last month.  But we hope that education is first and foremost for the
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  Oh, my God [laughter].
0 well, that's it, you know, we're going to kill you.  So it's got to be up to
0 And they know, they just had this, uh, I don't know if it's been in your
0 increase of crime is escalating.  I mean, there are more, look at the, look at
0 A:  Yeah, well, I don't know.  So you going to make a career out of it?
0 someone in there yet, but my mother's always been administrator of a nursing
0 A:  Other things.
1 out on that bike trail, and either ride the bike, oh, gosh, you can ride a
0 it's not very safe to get out and walk.
1 B:  Say out, instead of out you say out.  Did you know that?
0 A:  -- and, uh, it was nice talking to you.
0 B:  -- and I'm telling you, the air around Plano here turned blue before the
1 B:  -- I mean, I had to loosen the front bumper --
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 twenty years ago I, I got a real job, and [laughter] I've been doing it ever
0 knew what right equipment I needed, because I used to work in a garage, I
0 idea I needed brakes.
0 A:  Unfortunately you couldn't see it until you pulled the wheel off.  So, they
1 and put some presentations down there, and every time I open my mouth
0 A:  Uh-huh, well, I gathered that.  For some reason the people down in Dallas,
0 right, I do catch myself every once in a while talking along with
1 B:  No, I, I make so much money here at T I that, that we just spend it.
0 pretty neat being that independently wealthy and working for a major
1 A:  Uh-huh.
0 really shocked at how nice everything is in our house.  But, we don't, you
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  One of the secretaries we have down here is paying twelve percent through G
1 cut and stuff, both of us.
0 for a hundred and thirty-four dollars.
0 them out.  I mean, that's funny.
1 B:  That may not be a bad idea.
0 a jury like that.
1 we don't need to do that.
0 whole church.  So that's right off that same kind of principle.
0 But they figure local elections don't mean that much, I suspect.  So people
0 A:  Oh, certainly, there's a message there. 
1 did, and she did it backwards in high heels.
0 B:  Um.
0 suspect a lot of people would go out and choose a candidate to vote for just,
1 A:  -- a dollar bill comes out the bottom.
0 Speaker B.
0 B:  And then.
0 A:  Yeah, well,
0 can serve over rice.
1 A:  [Laughter] Yeah.  
0 you don't have to put up with all the B S that the lawyers have to.
1 into different fields, I made an off, off the cuff remark about lawyers,
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 A:  Yeah, I know.
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, for myself, I mean, I think that military experience [noise]
1 A:  I didn't make it, I sort of washed out.
1 A:  But, um, I like that because it, it really makes me laugh.
1 A:  Oh, it was hysterical, and just real funny things, you know,
1 A:  I often think, Gee, I wish I had a video camera, because I could sure use
1 Star Spangled Banner,
1 here, I called the station and complained.
0 fan.  I don't know what happened.  I'm just not a football fan any more.
1 season.
0 with Minnesota Vikings.
0 B:  Oh, okay.
1 A:  And, you know, the coldest day we got down there was like in the sixties,
1 A:  When it got down in the sixties you were cold down there [laughter].
1 A:  Oh, yes, it's a big difference.
0 B:  Yeah, I think I'll take the area with trees.
1 her, except she's very, very old, but her personality is, is very grating.
0 complain about the place all the time even though it's the best place in the
1 tows cars.  [laughter]
1 work.
1 me, or something, you know.  [laughter]
0 B:  -- and I tell her, you know, No problem, Mom, always got a place for you.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  But, who knows.
0 in (( )) {foreign name} City, in the Philippines.  And, uh, as you know, uh,
1 eat their pets.
0 B:  So the winters would get fairly cold.  The only problem with it is that the
1 bloody thing would sit outside my window and bay at the moon at night
1 [laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  You know, with a dog,
1 B:  bringing a dog on the job,
0 what time of night it is, he hears my car stop and he's over here and he's
0 B:  [Laughter].
1 the back, so he runs around the back, then I go in the front door.
1 shot,
1 A:  he likes our food best.
0 A:  Yeah, well, we, I work in a manufacturing plant.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Like that, that business sui-, suit,
1 B:  When it comes to winter though, my, my goal is to stay warm,
0 A:  -- you know, she still does her same function and everything, but, uh,
0 B:  Right, which is like adding another layer.
1 B:  Yeah, I know.
1 A:  I would be one of the women in flats [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Pick up where you left off.
0 A:  You don't want to see it.  It's like three hours long and it just --
1 A:  -- drags on forever.
1 A:  Cause I, I mean, I don't know, it's just something, I think, something we
1 here like, um, three or four times a night on various cable channels
0 first came up here, so I, you know, there's a gap in my T V viewing, but
1 two drama shows that I like.  And I tell everybody, don't call me (( ))
0 I finally said, Gee, this is kind of a waste of time.  And then when A T and T
0 A:  Yeah, and the idea that, you know, if he got in trouble, there's some, some
0 A:  The interesting thing about it is is that from a, uh, uh, an economy
0 squirrelly laws that you can't, you can't take out a, a second mortgage, like
0 A:   Yeah.  
0 B:   -- of testing you over and over and over.  And once you've
0 company I work for is sixty thousand people, plus.  So see I, for
0 A:   -- once every three mo-, it's a rotation.  
0 B:  That's the way to go.  
0 B:  Um.  
0 B:  -- five thousand dollars buys a lot of tires.
0 A:  -- I mean, it had a full size door handle on it and it
0 B:  Yeah, yeah.  
1 A:  So, it, it's amazing, even when you abuse them.  
1 roads and I was ruining the car, so I sold it,
0 high school and the grade schools are doing that I see, in a area like ours,
0 at the moment, but a lot of the industry's moving southward.
1 A:  Yeah, maybe the, maybe they'll bring their good schools with them.
0 you're most likely to do better in school.  They're going to help you.
1 getting cut back, and you're getting --
0 would contribute.  See, this isn't a subject that I think a lot about because
1 B:  That's like a hobby, because I don't ever make anybody nothing but me
0 A:  Yeah.  
1 A:  Yeah.  
0 B:  -- and he'll call us up and say, let's go, and so we'll meet, you know,
1 B:  Uh-huh [laughter].  
1 B:  Romance [laughter].  
0 B:  Uh-uh.  
0 A:  THE WATCHERS, you know, they made a movie of THE WATCHERS, here not too
1 B:  I don't like, I don't like scary books [laughter].  
1 day to see if I could, so I can watch the movie [laughter].
1 B:  Oh, yeah.  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  [Laughter].  
1 B:  I'll tell anybody I'd go to Jazzercize before I'd go to aerobics
0 bicycle --
1 A:  [Laughter].  
1 B:  I told him, I said, well, if you do it, you can't shave your hair.
0 B:  Yes, we do.  
1 know, if, if, if there, if you killed the person and it's like, oops, too bad.
0 want to be good kids, they'll eventually end up, uh, more or less victims of
0 years of, of perpetuated nonconcern for human life.
1 B:  They're not my favorite team.  
1 truth to that, but you never can tell.
0 A:  -- it would be interesting to see how he does this year.  
0 A:  [Laughter] And then he'll become an all star.  
1 B:  Right, somewhere else.  
0 baseball and, and advertise products, or they, they charge ten or fifteen
1 A:  Right.  
1 out, they fizzle.
0 A:  Right.  
1 A:  And we have snuck some pretty good size presents in here.  
0 B:  Yeah, that's what's going to hurt us in April, uh, we owe on our taxes and
0 they, they were announced to be a separate country.  But, yet, the, the
0 Russia has never been known for throwing an atomic bomb anywhere.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Uh [laughter], no.  
0 B:  -- back and forth and it was not hard and you get, you can get a CAT CAM
1 A:  That's funny.  Well, that's good.  I think we kept it at real good.
1 Lithuania, and we were talking about something tot-, income tax or something.
0 B:  But I'm home with the kids all day and I have really, uh, tried to make
0 A:  Oh, that is hard.
0 of a connotation there of him being, you know, it being a problem.  Like he
0 A:  (( )).
0 A:  And so I stayed with them Monday.  Tuesday they went to that.  Wednesday I
1 #[laughter],#
0 B:  #[Laughter].#
0 said if she leaves, she said, I'll let you have her spot.
0 B:  #Yeah.#
1 Remind me of that now that you mention it #[laughter].#
0 Mother's Day Out, it was like from nine to three so that was a pretty good --
0 A:  -- pretty good time, you know.  My baby-sitter would take them and then
0 A:  Yeah.  I generally drive a, a large Ford Super cab, you know, like one
0 much as I used to.
0 A:  Do you do most of your driving in the city?  
0 B:  Roundrock and where?   
0 B:  Yeah, I'm sure they're,  
1 thousand.  It would be about sixty thousand down there [laughter],
0 think they only have the house valued at probably about [throat_clearing]
1 B:  So they were shooting themselves in the foot,
1 And I have five children so,
1 thought about that, how you, you, you know, that, that's right, I guess
0 A:  -- so the, they give you more allowances, more dependent allowances for
1 B:  -- and he's, like, what do you guys want me to do.  
1 A:  [Laughter].   
0 problem with government is not, is not what the, not what the government's
0 people that feel that way that with what they could get support for.
1 A:  -- uh, while he's trying to, uh, find a nice girl and get married
1 B:  That's right [laughter].  
0 A:  [Laughter].  
0 B:  He, he still has a problem with it and he goes in stages.  
0 A:  Right.  
0 A:  And it was a new Ford.  So, the automobiles that, that I have --
0 A:  -- you know, but I've, it's been long gone out of my system now.  I could
0 we bought new five years ago and have had real good luck with, I mean there's,
0 one I gave to my, uh, uh, youngest --
1 B:  When it gets to be a hundred degrees every day for a month and a half
0 it [laughter].  That's when we traded.
0 A:  -- uh, how about, uh, accessories, power windows and all that. 
0 sixty-seven Pontiac, it's got a hundred fifty-eight thousand miles on it --
0 B:  Well, that's great.  That,
1 B:  Yeah.  But it seems like every time at work I look out my window it's gray
0 B:  -- eventually I get people to come and visit me in Dallas, and then I'll
0 A:  So, you know, you don't have to be an expert in any aspect of it at all.
1 A:  Hi, how are you doing?
0 A:  No, so I had,
1 do you like French fries?
0 B:  Right, I, I, I, assume that they, [clicking] they [/clicking] I guess
0 they're also saying that you'll have less likelihood of being sick --
1 B:  It's the honor system, isn't it.
0 B:  Right.
1 A:  Right, right, yeah.
1 B:  Nicotine addiction, yeah.
1 B:  Well, I can tell you're from, you've got that New England accent.
1 B:  Um, yes.
1 something.
1 B:  Yeah.  Somebody, somebody let the brains run out on the floor though.
1 state, it would be a great place.
0 A:  How'd they do that.
1 B:  Good exercise, you get outside.  Gee.
1 B:  Well that's what my, that's what my garbage man does.
1 platform out there for the garbage cans.
0 A:  [Laughter]  Yeah, yeah.
0 A:  I'm, I'm not really impressed with, I mean, I lived in Germany for three
1 B:  I've got better things to do with my life.
1 B:  And I, it was just miserable, I hated that place.
1 A:  And, and I mean, I, I, I just about kissed the guard.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  And they, they goofed up bad on my fir-, on my very first bill, because I
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 @@B:  Do you work with T I?  #No.#
1 A:  Little, the burgeoning metropolis of Raleigh.  What a dead place
0 B:  Well, I heard it on the news today, I could swear it was I B M.
0 A:  -- because that's the lowest thing for themselves, plus there's nobody for
0 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  I'm in Raleigh, North Carolina.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  -- not too often real bad ones, [talking] but.
0 B:  It's pretty nice.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 year or something will probably start looking around again, and if there's
0 got about, uh, say, nine months ago, I guess it was [throat_clearing].  So the
0 only thing that, that would get me to change cars right now would be if, see,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  -- when I was sixteen.  So I've never really cared.  Now, what I was, you
0 States and that is all of the tool and die equipment in this country that has
0 A:  Yeah.  And I noticed that too in, uh, in, uh, metal, stamp metal parts that
1 give me this crazy look.
0 B:  Right.
0 B:  Okay.
0 A:  Uh.
0 everything from basic research all the way through, uh, we have a couple of
0 in terms of the English units --
0 B:  Sao Paulo {city in Brazil}.
0 B:  No, no, I'm, I'm still in the, I'm still a second lieutenant.
1 A:  But why twelve inches make a feet, a foot, and three feet make a yard
1 A:  -- you know, uh.
1 A:   she's a little bit, uh, dingy when it comes to things,
1 A:  I don't put every-, a hundred percent stock into what he says,
1 B:  -- satellite dish [laughter].
1 tents [laughter],
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  I mean, I know it's dangerous, I wouldn't do it now but we did [laughter].
0 thing.  We couldn't find a place to camp and so we were on top of a picnic
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  That's kind of different.
0 B:  -- and it blows air out instead of sucking it in and you can fill them up
0 A:  I didn't realize it would melt so easily.
0 A:  And we decided we'd just go across the road to the office and see if we
0 going to try to teach computers how to recognize voices and search for
0 A:  What do you write for stutter?  That, uh,
1 B:  Well, I guess that's it for camping, uh [laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter] [talking] I guess so unless you want to talk about stakes.
1 A:  What size stakes to put in [/talking].
0 B:  Have you ever camped on sand?
0 B:  Yes.
1 B:  I know, I know, (( )) they.
0 B:  Right (( )),
1 A:  I'm afraid I'm a T V flipper.  Anything bad, I like, I like to,
1 aren't you.
0 administer some of these programs than the programs are worth.  Uh, it seems,
1 shouldn't be --
0 B:  Um, probably, oh, isn't, isn't there a plan now to make a command center
0 dangerous to be out there, I guess.
0 strangest things about, about Israel is that no-, um, most folks don't realize
1 B:  That, that starts tomorrow night.
0 B:  Bought up all the bread from [laughter].
0 Jewish, and, and my wife's not.
1 all forms.
1 A:  She had that Nazi mentality [laughter].
1 A:  Well, I have no idea what that is [laughter].
1 events free [laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 A:  Uh, very good videos, yeah, I'm kind of impressed [laughter].
0 A:  Oh, yeah.  And there are some that are, that get artsy to a point, like
1 you know, this that and the other.
1 A:  Well, I don't think I'd ever make a song writer [laughter].
0 spend a lot of time with, uh, oh this preaching kind of stuff.
1 yeah, it's ve-, its definitely Christian, but it's not, it's not hymns
1 A:  Right, okay [laughter].
0 A:  That's, that's certainly true.  I mean, his military may just go out and
1 course --
0 A:  Right, uh, I wonder, I wonder if now the people in the Soviet Union don't
1 A:  Are you serious?
1 B:  [Laughter] I'm serious (( )).
0 B:  Well, my, the front door on the house I have has, uh, glass in it.
0 Now that's terrible, and the police did not get here until seven hours later.
0 and.  The question is what's the motivation not to steal.  And I guess that's
0 A:  I don't leave anything home.  I wear everything [laughter].
0 stuff, so they really hit pay dirt, and then they grabbed my V C R also, but,
0 B:  Yeah, but who buys silver any more?
1 A:  Yeah.  (( )) a bigger bird or a larger cat to take care of the dog
0 a pretty old bird.  And was extremely friendly.  Uh, I, I couldn't keep him in
0 there's, there's, uh, a person on each side of our county that now have
0 them in the, uh, metropolitan areas.  They, you wind up going many miles out
1 rabbit spelled backwards.
1 how did you get that name, I said, well, that's gerbil spelled backwards
1 B:  No, that one would, might get you in trouble.  Yeah.  
0 to get around the kittens, you know, it's, you'd have to catch them with a,
1 little test that they're trying to do.
1 instinct.
0 homework, the bath, the whole, you know, everything.  Um, and I think that one
0 with the younger men that they definitely are looking down upon women
0 A:  #dropping# children off at the sitter and,   
0 ch-,
0 B:  #Yeah.#    
0 A:  I think that's a little ((war)) condition, [laughter].
1 spending too, as well, so, 
1 really sav-, it's savings if we don't spend it.
0 much went for the mortgage, because we knew, you know, that was kind of fixed,
0 but as times went on, the children got older, you know, and naturally salaries
0 A:  so, you don't even have to go in to see the teller anymore.
0 you need to report somewhere by next Monday, you know.  I'm not sure that would
0 B:  Yeah, that's true [laughter].  Most of them probably wouldn't do
0 may be the one that actually started the thing, or was, you know, really
0 A:  all that flooding and everything [noise] {sounds like water running}.
0 A:  #we don't# have that this year, so far.   
0 B:  Oh, really?  
1 B:  But, um, oh, we suffered that first summer.  We traded that thing in
0 A:  I, I think you would probably, ooh [laughter].  
0 I guess we bought the, my car in Colorado,
1 B:  Because of the wi-, winter [laughter], 
1 A:  That's true.  Certainly not localized [laughter].  
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
1 B:  And just, well, I think long winters would really mess up, mess her up.
0 A:  Oh, I see.
1 A:  Well, this is Texas it doesn't set, it blows.
0 B:  Oh [laughter].  That's right.
0 beaches in the United States --
0 I wouldn't be as humanistic as I am because I don't have that problem.
0 the, uh, the, the collection is very easy and you don't go around killing
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 anywhere.
1 B:  Exactly,
0 think that one or two years out of my life would have, probably like you said,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  of other people.
0 B:  I don't exactly recommend [noise],
0 country probably enough.
0 B:  Huh.
0 you know, the, the problems we have with AIDS and cancer --
0 A:  for enjoyment? 
1 A:  Well, that sounds interest-, that sounds fun [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 read the Bible.  I don't read the Bible as much as I should but but I think I
1 A:  Thirty or younger,
0 library and it, I've been moderately successful,
1 telling me to take zinc, so, [laughter] anyway I've been taking enough zinc,
0 book on that and, um, I've, all my relatives my m-, you know, you probably
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 going on, you know, like I knew,
0 B:  whereas before that never would have happened [laughter], 
0 A:  And even, you know, I think a lot of the movies we see now kind of, kind of
0 A:  Exactly.
0 A:  It's just not as,
1 B:  but people think, oh, we're in the nineties, we're beyond all that, you
0 A: you know, some people have lived in Lewisville all their life, #you
0 know, co-ed dorm,
1 got invited to, one guy practically roasted a goat in his, in his dorm
1 B:  I mean, people ha-, you know think they're kids have to have five,
0 A:  Yeah.
1 B:  my kids are going to be hating me,     
0 B:  you know [laughter].   
0 B:  Uh-huh.   
1 B:  Oh, I know,   
0 got cable a while back and we didn't, you know, we didn't get any channels
1 B:  Uh, yeah, I do, I guess I like that one.
0 A:  (( )).
1 B:  Yeah.
1 can't wait until I'm old enough so I don't have to do this anymore.
0 B:  So, I don't know, I don't, I'm single, and so I don't know, I don't, if I
0 A:  I mean, in the summertime it's hard here because it gets so hot.
0 This house doesn't have very much.  It has some trees, but, um, the people who
0 summertime you just can't grow anything, and we tried to plant in like end of
1 B:  Yeah, sounds familiar.
1 B:  And that really up sets me when I see that.
1 A:  [Laughter] I can certainly understand that.
0 A:  um, utensils.  And the, the, the, waitresses are very nice they'll,
0 A:  That's true.
1 instead of just grabbing a handful [laughter] and bring them over again.
0 B:  Kansas, um, you see I would enjoy having a pizza and just sit and watch
0 smaller,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Well, our,
0 plenty of local stations to look at.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Um, ...
1 A:  -- in case you miss it.
0 A:  Because Sunday was really busy.
0 that I, I like that T I -s been doing, uh, though officially, they just
0 B:  That's another good benefit that T I has and they'll pay for ninety percent
1 for a while and decided, nope, not for me.
1 A:  I thought I was going to be smart and get the good kids, wrong.
1 with them.
0 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 A:  And I asked him, uh, what are you doing with that?  And he says, "My father
0 B:  But there,
1 B:  Goo-, good question [laughter].
0 B:  Maybe on smaller, smaller scales.
0 B:  The, uh, cost are just going out of sight and, and, uh, you know, it's
0 curtail the cost that's the way I see it.
1 [laughter].
0 A:  -- and killed himself.  Forty-one years old.
0 B:  [Throat_clearing] Be kind of like smorgasbord of benefits where you could,
1 A:  I think when we, when we start showing profit, which I hope we do pretty
1 B:  Oh, really?  [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah.
1 they said now forget the old system.  Oh, yeah, sure [laughter].
0 B:  That's all right.
0 project in my bathroom and I had wallpaper up, I had to completely strip the
0 A:  Yeah.
0 don't do that in the newer houses now we don't,
0 play some of my favorite themes and then inevitably I am swept away by the,
0 understand what is that other people take for granted,
1 music people are supposed to go hand in hand but,
1 out to play thing,
0 B:  Okay.  
0 because I know that's the kind of food I wanted to eat.
0 they're doing this act and they, they get, supposedly get the audience
0 B:  Well, there's this, uh, there's this type, kind of restaurant called a brew
1 B:  that's what I figured, but ... 
1 A:  [Laughter] Well unfortunately I'm not as good about that as you are,
0 A:  -- how old they are, and these are probably, oh, one of the
0 B:  our mortgage is, is between, depending on, you know, it
1 after a while [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah, suburban tract, yeah, we, uh, we lived out of state for
1 general contractor,
0 like that.
0 B:  Oh, I guess, uh, it's hard tell, I guess, probably, I didn't do much as a
0 A:  Are you a native Texan? 
1 mine, they have a fifth wheel trailer that they pull.
0 B:  They are fairly close to the water, aren't they? 
0 A:  Yeah, yeah they have got a place where you can keep your boat, you can,
0 B:  That's right, I'd forgotten then all about the Texan side.  and that's but
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Outstanding.
0 B:  Yeah, I tell you, I would recommend too, Texoma is nice because there is no
0 was the only place I didn't mind swallowing and boy I swallowed a lot of water
1 personally than I do, I suppose.
1 A:  -- twenty years, going from, well, take it back, thirty years
0 might teach for a year or two before you got married.
0 other kids, and, you know, and not really school, but, but a
0 B:  -- the same person every day.
0 were a kid.
0 of kids who didn't learn to take responsibility because mom left
0 young college.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah, I think that was one of the main reasons that I quit,
0 time,
0 that it gets at night, you know, you can open your windows and,
1 A:  Spring, because we're getting tha-, getting rid of winter finally.
1 the tape}.
1 drawing a blank [laughter].
1 B:  But I'm determined to brake mine so he has to get me another one.
1 B:  We think about that a lot. 
0 is, I said, well, now first of all we need to all be able to share this P C
0 A:  Right.  The copy that you can (( )) with one of those as compared to one of
0 dollars.
1 have to, you know, like you said, you had to change it, put it on a disc,
1 the audit department of this, this huge holding company, sharing a H P Rugged
1 B:  Good [laughter]. 
1 B:  Uh, know, virtually nothing else.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Even, well, like, I, I'm in like a little town right now.  It's
1 B:  Savings and loans, uh,
0 A:  Well, well what would be the unemployment rate out there? 
0 B:  Well, a lot of pressure on them, though, I think, uh, I don't think they
1 just all kinds of problems.
0 A:  I tell you. 
0 from North Carolina,
0 A:  White. 
1 B:  Yeah.  We'll see [laughter]. 
1 A:  And I mean you can, you can buy an extra screen [laughter].
1 A:  he was willing to sit down and,
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  So he's basically, you know, whatever the computer can do for you, fine,
0 B:  That's right.   And e-, even using it as much as I do, you know,
1 B:  They catch you every time [laughter]. 
1 [throat_clearing],
1 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  I don't know. 
0 probably just pitch them, you know?
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  I think basically it's a good idea, you know, I hope it works.
0 B:  you could take the, the mulch home with you, you know, and take buckets
0 A:  It really does. 
0 diaper service, trucks apparently the fuel that they use and the fumes that
0 B:  but the landfill have to do something special, you know, for those,
1 A:  That's right, absolutely,
0 A:  absolutely. 
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Yeah, well we do to as a matter of fact.
0 B:  Yeah.  Yeah that's, that's real helpful,
0 A:  Well, I think, uh, you know, from an elementary standpoint it would help to
0 B:  Oh, sure. 
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
1 A:  and they'll proceed to plug in inches and feet and pounds,
1 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  I was a little disappointed that, uh, United States is lagging the rest of
0 know, and like you said, you know, start making it practice, you know, start
0 B:  Oh, really. 
1 A:  #and that it's# a nice day when it's twenty-five degrees outside
1 [laughter],
0 A:  Yeah, the Europeans think that you're baby is boiling over [laughter].
0 getting, that's getting scary because I grew up in a real small town, and I
0 A:  [Throat_clearing] But the cities down there, yeah, and, and the next one up
0 violent crime rates that we do.
0 A:  [Laughter].  
0 of my students, who are, you know, maybe twenty, a real sense of, you know,
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  And it's very difficult for lay people for somebody who might just, you
1 A:  Yeah.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 to just scrap all the case law and go back to general principles [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah, that would be ((wrongful)). 
0 to be a paralegal and, uh, uh, they barred priors on this, uh, person and they
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  Yeah, right.
0 B:  sit on a jury like that and you'd still, you know, I want ask some
1 A:  So, you like that more civilized kind of camping (( )) [laughter].
1 A:  So, but that's also about the time you start getting cabin fever.
1 A:  Um, but I woke up and the snow was halfway up the, the front of the tent.
1 A:  Got to be, got to be part of the action here. 
0 B:  I started getting inspired thinking, oh, we need to do this, I'd like ((
0 A:  Yeah, because being a student I'm doing it for the money. 
1 sounds easy.
1 B:  Yeah.  I know, it's crazy [laughter]. 
1 A:  But they, on the other hand, too, they cost twenty-five hundred dollars
1 B:  Oh, my land.  I'd be scared to dead to have anything that expensive
1 A:  She's kneading on my, my stomach. 
1 A:  pushing and pushing and drooling. 
0 B:  So, I've considered even becoming licensed to teach it. 
1 A:  [Laughter] Um, have you done your attitude survey for this year yet?
0 B:  [Breathing] and I'll tell you how they handled this and I was just
0 ((co-dependents)) have turned on the hose and are getting my neighbors fence.
0 B:  they don't have to do sit-ups and push-ups and all that crap we had to do
1 lifting so she choice to take weight lifting,
1 ((we'd)) cut that in half and get some teachers we might have us a problem
0 ============================================================================
0 B:  Well, I have Nissan, uh, Maxima --
0 B:  -- but I guess auto repairs are cheaper around here.  I think it was around
1 B:  I've seen your spaghetti bridges though, when I wouldn't want to go over
1 like that or,
1 A:  That's what I did with mine,
0 B:  You don't get, is it less boring than the bicycle or not.
0 A:  We got it at a little bit of an incline.
1 running out the door, he's working at night tonight.  So I decided to do it
1 B:  Oh, my goodness [laughter].
1 B:  I kept hanging up on them for days, until my husband told me what it was
1 B:  Oh [laughter].
1 don't like then it makes machine gun noise [laughter].
0 B:  (( )).
1 A:  That didn't last long (( )) I had a baby, I think [laughter].
1 pushed for that, they always switch it to something else [laughter].
0 A:  I like to listen to some of that.
0 my husband about the radio station too.  I said, Oh, they're playing one of
0 B:  Uh-huh, and I, I, you know, there's so much available --
1 A:  Yeah, maybe so. We'll start listening to children's music [laughter].
1 that when I total up the score but,
0 was last year.  I haven't been out this year.  It's kind of been, uh, kind of
0 B:  Yeah, they, uh, they, uh, my, uh, I have an interesting anecdote.
1 B:  Oh, thank God I've never been to Midland.
0 get a lot better results.
0 B:  You know, the higher echelon.
1 A:  Yeah.
1 B:  It's mostly, you know, even if you want to say home, you really can't.
0 B:  And, uh, I really think that if, uh, like after the second World War when
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 success.
1 he's never had to use it so we don't get any, get --
0 A:  Yeah, you can't get cash advances.
0 A:  Oh, well, no, uh, it [laughter].  It think that's a really bad plan in your
1 A:  No, it doesn't.
0 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  An-, it's still there.
0 A:  Sheesh.
1 the credit cards real easily and real freely, and then they get in real
0 old and a fourteen year old, but but we still wind up, I still, I like fast
1 find a (( )), and I said it's the toy, uh, uh, the play yard out in the front
0 B:  Yeah, well, have you been in the area very long?
0 this on it, I mean, they piled it up --
1 A:  I've ever tasted [laughter].
0 I mean, if, you know, you go through the line and pick up your food.
0 in high school, will talk to us, but you know, you know, it's mostly,
0 A:  Yeah, I, I can-, you know, I can't relate to that just yet.  Uh, now, I
0 maybe one day of break, for about a month.  So,
1 after about a month, we finally got to mow this weekend.
0 that there jus-, there wasn't even a blade of grass in the backyard.
1 A:  and flower beds or even gardens, that, we're just saying, let's get some
1 to keep the lawn alive and green and the weeds out.
0 those in, that was, that was the only way to go because it was just so
1 th-, the sprinkler around everywhere.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 know how to say i-, say it exactly in words, but you know, just kind of stay
0 A:  Because what I heard was that the, that the military was shooting down
1 always end up skimming the headlines, spending too much time,
0 amount of time.  Sort of like the, uh, what is that, A B C's NIGHTLINE.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 the MORNING NEWS, which has a very strong subscription.
1 A:  It's piddly stuff to pick a newspaper over,
0 B:  I, I actually take both newspapers on the weekends.
0 of have a liberal political slant, and the MORNING NEWS just has an incredibly
0 A:  Are yo-, you're married?
1 B:  No, we've got, uh, we've been married forever --
1 have one in two months, or something, perhaps that you were newly married
0 B:  What kind?
1 A:  And I think, why didn't you tell me a year ago when we got the other dog
1 these dogs,
1 to get pregnant again.  Turned out she wasn't,
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  -- to cut the sacks off.  She didn't even lick the sacks off.  Laziest dog
1 A:  That was like, oh boy, they are so messy when they're little, too
0 about two, I guess he was two when we built the dog run.  We couldn't let him
0 A:  Three and a half year old, yeah.
0 know, poke on it too much.
1 she wouldn't even, she'd kind of look at them like what are you doing now
0 B:  I'm just flat out of pet stories. I don't even have a pet anymore.
1 A:  It seem like that's, like, especially lately there's been so many babies,
0 my own stuff, and it's kind of embarrassing.  People say let me see some of
1 your work.
0 B:  I did some needlepoint years ago, and then I got into the Bargello.
0 A:  Yeah,
1 A:  Really [laughter].
1 B:  Do you know what my concern is?  How will I dust this thing?  [laughter].
1 A:  No that's true.  That's funny.
1 B:  So first thing I think of is how easy would this,
1 really hard.  But I really do en-, like I said I really enjoy it when I do.
1 A:  There's yeah, there's a few designs I guess I've done myself, but not very
1 me a shopping list of things I needed to get done [laughter].
0 cools down that the metal, you know, these two pieces aren't touching any
0 problems at all.
1 bought a Ford Escort [laughter].
1 B:  He doesn't really have anything else to spend his money on [laughter].
0 B:  At least I'm going to give it a try cause you can sa-, I mean the oil
1 A:  Uh, I get offers [laughter] every now and then from,
0 A:  The trouble is they think they can buy it for a thousand dollars or less.
1 A:  Okay, um, let's see.  How do you feel about credit cards?
0 A:  Well, we, uh, me and my wife, when, when we have like extra money that we
0 it wouldn't, you know, it wouldn't hit me in a big, in a big way because --
1 A:  Right.  That's good.  I've, I don't think we've gone that far (( ))
0 @@B:  Well, from where are you calling?
1 A:  Oh really.  
0 A:  Yeah [laughter].  I think we talked for a good eight minutes about the
0 A:  -- insofar as their design.  Um, uh, American, even foreign.
0 down the middle he usually wins about a quarter a hole because they've been in
0 B:  Oh, I know we have.
0 care of these things --
0 A:  But we, we, I did that, I let the kids have a pet because I wanted them to
0 [laughter].
0 to have, what I would really like to have is an aquarium and have some really
0 B:  Now I have some friends who have aquariums, and I enjoy watching the fish
0 A:  It's something awful [laughter].  Oh.
0 A:  Well, we hope that we got two females, so that they're supposed to get
0 B:  Now I know my boss has bought the software, um, that he can, that his
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  [/Laughter].
0 A:  Yeah, that was made in a few, I don't know, several years back, I guess.
1 A:  -- yeah, chop them up, exactly.  And,
0 A:  It was about, uh, a,
1 it was a chop them up movie.  But, uh, well, I guess that's one I won't go see
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Right.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 underground, and he uses all of his special effects knowledge in doing what
1 A:  I don't know.
1 B:  Keep on watching those movies, huh?
1 everybody else's, you know,
1 supposedly, you know, cosmic social enlightenment.
1 same time you think, God, I hope I don't sound like a stage mother because,
0 B:  #[Laughter].#
0 B:  Yeah.
0 get through, although not always with flying colors.  Uh, in fact, one of the
0 B:  She gave him an F on that paper.  And I thought, well now, here you have a
1 that worries her [laughter].
0 B:  but, but whenever they want to sit in your lap,
0 B:  or the Humane shelter and I, I feel so sorry,
0 B:  and, and they don't do it intentionally.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  [noise] {Sounds like ice in glass}.
0 A:  Yes, I had a German Shepherd that did that one time.
1 B:  and she'd drag that thing around the yard.
0 A:  ((Well)), all of them are.
0 B:  (( )).
1 and bring the dog.  I think she's more happy to see the dog than she is us.
0 A:  I can't get it, can't get her convinced that she really shouldn't try to
0 A:  You really shouldn't feed chocolate to a dog.
1 A:  So I kind of have to watch her,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Well, credit cards.
0 that, are those the ones that you use the, the most?
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  The, you know, you find it's, uh, that the, uh, the interest rates vary,
0 B:  #the, uh,# the, uh, credit union --
0 A:  Yeah, I saw that.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 because I have a good friend, my, one of my best friends is going into, into
1 oh, that's cool.
0 A:  I don't know.  God knows.  He says he is.  And I'm going to trust that with
1 A:  I'm not saying that either, but that's not what the question asked so
1 [laughter],
0 B:  They were my favorite team for a while.
1 times.
0 A:  And, uh, you know, I didn't care for the Showboats much but I did like a
1 B:  All right [laughter].
0 [laughter] and, and,
1 B:  Well, yeah, you work for T I.
0 A:  So do you see a lot of, uh, well, let's see, what's in Colorado?  Do you
0 A:  in, in most of the restaurants I worked in as a waitress, you know.  It,
0 but you couldn't make a living on what they earn.
1 because I'm, I'm too old for it now.
1 so,
0 B:  Yeah, especially on a real hilly course.
0 B:  Yep, they have a real nice, uh, health club there at T I Lewisville,
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  I'm tired of running around on crutches for two months at a time.
0 that they used to wear.
1 A:  Us old guys just don't do it very much, do we [laughter]?
0 B:  [Laughter] No, unless, unless you call pushing yourself away from the
0 would, would more or less agree on this issue.  Uh, maybe certain religions,
0 A:  you know, it's like, wow, #am I going to have to do it?#
0 A:  And that was his job,
1 physical training,
0 A:  #I don't think there# is any pay.  Wait, I'm not sure because what happens
1 A:  ((It's like)) please let me ride for free.
1 which I have to do.
1 guess [laughter].
1 B:  think that comes from never having enough.  You know, I'm always afraid
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  and she's almost gone through her whole college fund, you know
0 when I talk I usually like to ask a lot of questions.  I was wondering what
0 you do at T I.
0 B:  Oh, absolutely.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 I moved down from Pittsburgh --
0 A:  you got to choose the tickets based on your seniority as a season ticket
1 and fifty dollar bonds and thousand dollar bonds that you had to buy
0 me every year and says, can I have the tickets one more year?  I say yeah,
0 B:  ((Yeah, they'r-,)), they're having trouble doing a little bit of both.
0 B:  And it doesn't ((do him as good)) to run down field if he can't catch the
0 thought that ultimately my own would want to go, and the way the stadium was
1 ===========================================================================
0 @B:  [Laughter] Views, huh?  Political views, huh? [Breathing].
0 the chemical weapons before --
0 A:  It's, I, it's, it's kind of fortunate that, that the United States was
0 this young man's life is so dramatic that it's heartbreaking --
0 detected by drug testing.  But seeing what drugs did to him makes me see,
0 B:  Um, it's horrible.
0 limits ought to be put on it, do you think?
0 B:  Pard-, yes, right,
0 insurance --
0 particular [laughter] segment of society, but, um, I think that there doesn't
0 A:  Right.
0 any, that we should say, well, certain segments should not have to be tested.
0 if, if you're going to stay clean and straight, [laughter] then, um, you're,
1 A:  Yeah, I think so.
1 B:  Well, it winds up being a little stress on the shoulder joints after a
1 while [laughter].
1 B:  which is, which is another Dallas company [laughter].
1 A:  Aerobics you don't forget [laughter].
0 B:  uh, thing, but, uh, when I'm exercising regularly, I, I feel the need to
0 A:  Wow.  Do you have time to do that in your job?
1 back again [laughter].
1 you probably don't have that problem whe-, [laughter].
1 B:  Well, I've, I've lost most of my hair so that's no real problem [laughter].
1 B:  Then nobody really complains if I, uh, if I come in sort of half wet.
0 A:  Yeah [laughter].  Well, gee, well, that sounds neat.  And you do that like,
1 B:  So they learned, too.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah.  Did you all start this year or last year?
1 B:  Yeah, yeah.
1 A:  But I didn't want to go to Texas.
0 B:  yeah.
1 it, go, boy, this, this is kind of ugly [laughter].
0 go off and do other things during the summer.
0 ways.  It, it just kind of depends on what you're, what you're planting, but,
0 A:  Yeah.  See, um, uh, where my, uh, well, my grandmother passed away, but
0 A:  Yeah.
0 today and, uh, as hard as they try to get these public transit things going I
0 A:  Well, um, I, I think that we probably are paying a little too much tax
0 B:  And what happened they turned around and double crossed us. 
0 B:  Oh.  
0 going to happen here in the not to distant future.  We keep hearing well,
1 it was the airlines then it was banks and, and, uh, um, savings association,
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Absolutely. 
0 B:  Very simple.  Give, uh, uh, uh, government employees the average number of,
1 uh, holidays as the, uh,
0 B:  Um, well, anyway Ellen, it was nice talking to you. 
1 the last week or two I guess with Easter [laughter],
0 B:  Well, uh, just really the last couple of days since this, uh, the, U N
1 hasn't been any peace over there ever [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah.
1 B:  No.  No,   
0 B:  or, uh, squash or something,
0 that.
1 B:  and keep them watered and I, I don't think I'll do it again [laughter].
0 A:  Sure.  
0 A:  -- during the real hot summer months, you know, until I retired and now I,
1 I've lost my excuse for that so I have to [laughter],
0 A:  That's right.  I'm, I'm kind of bad about that. 
0 A:  No.  I don't, I did it by hand,
1 B:  You're, you're making me hungry here. 
1 A:  I don't know unless it,
1 A:  gone, thank heaven.
1 A:  -- it's nice.  It really is.
0 B:  well are we [laughter]?
0 B:  Well, how, how, how much memory you got, have you got on your machine?
0 B:  Yeah, well, they make the Amiga and, uh, not only that but the Amiga is
0 A:  -- and I sit in on all this stuff.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 be put right out of the back of the machine to a common V C R and recorded on
0 modification until you had it down pat.  On the Amiga, once you had done that,
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 uh, shrimp, shrimp fettucini is real easy --
1 A:  don't eat it.  But, um, you just put some Cajun, well, lots of pepper
0 B:  No, I know, but you know, you, you save the markup on the parts, and of
0 B:  I'm sure,
1 A:  Oh great. 
1 to talk with you folks from, from down in the the main office area,
1 buy a van.  Or we're going to buy an economy car, how do you like that
0 B:  We have a van, that, uh, just has seat belts in the back doesn't have a
0 B:  real nice, yeah, oh those are -- 
0 B:  Yeah.   
1 B:  But they were filled with beer cans [laughter].
0 B:  and I hated to take a big old sack, I mean, one time, I mean, like a lawn
0 B:  -- except it's a little better than what K Mart sells, I think.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 the smaller ones and make it more equitable.
1 A:  Yeah [laughter]. 
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 have.
1 B:  And the pool, yeah.  That's great.
0 walking and, and, you know, this is one of those things, like this orthopedist
1 B:  Yeah.  I try to go real late or real early before they get there
1 A:  [Laughter] (( )).
0 do that [laughter].
1 A:  An-, you know, I do like to have my guns.  
1 [child_crying] that thing one time.  Almost knocked me down.
1 else #[laughter].#
1 It was about four or five years ago.
1 B:  #[Laughter].#
0 A:  -- had one gun and I've kept it, #you# --
0 [sniffing] all right, uh, banning guns.  Pri-, pri-, pri-, private cit-,
1 what time you go to the bathroom.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  No.  None whatsoever #[laughter].#
0 A:  Yeah, it was a pretty good movie.
1 B:  Right.
0 B:  [Laughter] Really.  Oh, I love them like that.
0 A:  I's about to say, you're not going to take her to that one, I'm sure.
1 moments,
1 A:  with him in there.
1 A:  I really enjoyed it.
1 A:  -- because I had just gone overboard the first time.  I don't know but,
0 B:  I do too.
1 A:  That's exactly what,
0 B:  She doesn't mind when we cover up her eyes.
0 A:  Yeah, but not enough.
1 miss it, for a week or two.  You feel kind of left out [laughter].
1 A:  Nothing surprised me any more seeing it on the T V, you know.
0 B:  But it's, just one of those things, you know, you have to shut your eyes or
1 that's the, I feel the exact same way.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  I can't handle it very long.
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].  
0 the information before they started.
0 A:  Oh, you know a lot about that.
1 A:  No, no, I don't care about that, she'll be on the phone all night.
1 up on occasion.
1 A:  -- and twenty years old, and I was just this little toothpick up there.
0 was in Europe, you know, now with everybody is going to the health clubs --
1 way back up.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  The guy said it'd been on the lot about thirty minutes.  He says it'll
0 A:  or is something wrong with it but --
1 B:  Eventually.
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  Yeah, well, unless you're selling car with hail damage and flood damage
0 A:  -- of course, when the place in Arlington went and took the car --
1 A:  Yeah, and then, oh, they do ride nice, too.
0 hundred miles away --
1 B:  [Laughter]  Yeah, got to see them all the time.
0 A:  -- and let them work on it.  I'd bring it in and go to work and then pick
1 A:  So I decided, no matter what, if I had to let a bill go,
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  About how many miles is that?
0 red one.  Oh gosh, it was so cute.
0 A:  that's all that is [laughter].
0 A:  Well isn't it made by, uh, oh, Mercedes?
1 A:  I can't see paying as much for a car as you could buy a house for.
1 B:  I bet.
0 father had and that's, uh, how he put himself through school basically.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  Well, in a way it is, but you have to look out for yourself --
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 week, but the last little while, for one reason or another, we haven't been
0 one day, and then she was delivered the next day.
0 A:  Well, that's good.
1 A:  In Dallas, about another block over, I'm in Garland [laughter].  So,
1 A:  Unofficially I'm going to go work for a supplier of ours.  
0 B: Oh yeah,
1 to retire and go to work for him.
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 uh, uh, I took a day off from work, and we went down, uh, to St. Edwards and
0 A:  Yeah, and he [buzz] went out there and spent a weekend here with some
0 they would get out, but they got, they ended up getting more or less the same
0 for Tech in your school?
1 your back tires still don't pass.
1 B:  And he had to get two new ones, too,  
0 that,
1 we've got some good news and we've got some bad news,
0 out messing around with, uh, my Dad when he was, uh, out looking at the cars,
0 just bought a new car and, uh, you know, we want to take real good care of it,
1 me for the rest of my life with this jack attached,
0 A:  Oh, Lord.  
0 A:  so, you can't keep the dirt out of the tent.  I don't know we have a
0 uh, work on that, you know, the, i-, it gets cooler when the sun sets and then
0 B:  Yeah, so, easy to pick up and go, and, s-, we have a van and we can just
1 heavy and they were all, everybody was trying to flee the campsite,
0 that, uh, our daughter-in-law is Panamanian, and, uh, we have been in Panama
1 anything that's, that's anti-Communist, you know, we kind of had a tendency to
0 A:  Right. 
1 only thing that they had a great abundance of was, uh, you know, human beings
1 quite as much of that sort of thing, as Panamanians are just about as
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  and you couldn't just, take up, take off and leave your group and go
0 A:  Uh-huh {very faint} so.
0 uh, Per-, Peru thirteen, which meant there were twelve groups before mine,
0 um, the language teaching, you know, I mean, why should we push English,
0 about Hungary or someplace, one of the eastern ((law)) countries requesting
0 A:  Right.  Uh, we used to have American Express, and, uh, Visa that, of
0 B:  Yeah that,
0 A:  Uh, yes. 
1 you,
0 B:  I, I sent that one back, 
1 something,
0 A:  that's just a way of life, I guess. 
0 B:  What's that, writing a check for gas? 
1 A:  Well, this should be very interesting,
0 B:  I don't, I don't mind people owning guns, I just think it should be a
0 A:  -- uh, even though I am a member of the N R A, 
0 B:  and we've had like, I mean, this is probably typical though, uh, we, like
0 A:  Yeah, that sounds like a good deal.  Well, you have a nice day.
0 B:  [Lipsmack] I really question, though, how much technology the average
0 as far as home computers are concerned or fact machines, Fax machines and
0 President Bush right now in an awkward position concerning the,
0 A:  That's right.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Well, I, I, uh, just in my lifetime I know that the role of women
1 B:  I don't know what to do about it.
0 change.
0 almost have to work.  Right now, I'm at home because I am recovering from
0 B:  Was she elected?  Or was it something that?
0 work)),
0 A:  Yeah, yeah.
0 A:  the problem, #I'm sorry, go ahead.#
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 A:  Well, yes, but he's in very poor health, so you know,
1 A:  Oh, yes, yes, #this is true.#  
0 B:  And then, uh, and then uh, it went out, uh, I mean,  and I just 
1 probably they ca-, they probably can't find them [laughter] so what the deal 
0 B:  Right. 
1 B:  Because well it's not, it's not that bad.  But that's getting off the
0 A:  How incredibly hard it is to get,
1 probably more interesting if it had been a male and a female [laughter].
0 A:  they still take time, and, and I, you know, I still provide most of the
0 B:  Right.
0 B:  Even though that has happened too, uh, it's almost as though it puts you
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
1 B:  Yeah. 
1 A:  [Laughter] You know, the money was the issue.  
0 having, you know, a job and all that goes with that.
1 they, I don't know, I, from speaking from my children, the-, they aren't real
0 from being what it ought to be.
0 probably could have struck a deal with the Saudi's and just let them have
0 B:  I don't either.  It's, it's tough to understand those Middle Eastern types
0 before the embargoes, and so they're still floating around,
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  Yeah they,
0 their asking for these specialized people to go over there for is a year,
0 all that money and they don't have anybody to pay it to.  [talking] Um, and
1 aircraft against the Kurds we're going to shoot um down, okay, well, wow wee,
0 A:  Well Amy it's been, uh, kind of overcast today and cloudy.
0 A:  We have, our, I have a son in kindergarten, he was having a kite day,
1 B:  and if it's not nice and they can't go out, it's really the pits
1 B:  -- he's just wa-, he feels like he's burning like he's been baking for an
1 get all muddy,
1 A:  That's right. 
1 A:  but, uh, at least there isn't, we fe-, I feel like I got rid of something,
0 closed up all the time.
0 can't remember what time of year, I think it's usually this time of year when
0 A:  Yeah, that's true. 
0 B:  -- part of the system. 
1 test them.  Uh, I don't know.  Uh, I'm not in the medical profession,
0 the results which they are striving for could differently be in error or
0 B:  uh, it, uh, perhaps people would accept it better and then [barking],
0 B:  Well and that, I think that's maybe part of it that, that the, um, and it,
0 B:  -- and, uh, you know, I mean, I, I guess as we get older, i-, you're
0 B:  Exactly.  And, you know, it's going to really hurt the, the middle class,
0 B:  Another reason, yo-, and you want to encourage them, you know, to, to be
0 you know, the schools are there to teach history and that we fought the civil
0 B:  Right.
0 B:  uh, until we moved out here.  So, uh, yeah, and I don't know, do you do
1 try something new,
0 A:  Oh, I see.  
0 B:  bring an Nintendo, right.  
0 something on T V.
0 B:  No.  Her family is in New Hampshire and in New York and in, uh, in, uh, oh,
0 Mexico, it's pretty, it's up in the mountains.  Yeah, it's beautiful {very
0 lives in North Carolina,
0 New Hampshire everybody else is in that area anyway and usually somebody will
1 drive in from New York so, uh, it's usually some kind of, uh, semireunion,
0 A:  Huh-uh. 
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 divided into, for every report card period,
1 we call in this area, yuppie area and people,
1 they're into so many different things, so.
0 B:  which is computer, you know,
0 B:  No, huh-uh, sometimes he bri-, he brought home a, uh, a portable one,
0 that happen but,
0 B:  Yeah, you just know them by the telephone, so.  But, well, it's been good
0 ===========================================================================
0 books I've been reading have to do with helping them get through those issues.
0 B:  Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure.  Uh, what oth-, is, is that just the only type of
1 reading you've been doing, or do you, have you read any good novels lately?
1 A:  -- just to help us deal with all the things that we have to deal with.
0 B:  Never, never --
0 reading {pause}.
1 A:  Wow, must be nice.  
0 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  Uh-huh.  Yeah.  
0 A:  That's nice.
1 A:  -- or think about looking at the mountains, you got to throw in a dollar.
0 A:  Legally?
1 A:  But when you're only at living wage it doesn't matter.  
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 doesn't seem to get much better for the exempts either, unless you're
0 think I wrote a paper on this in college, uh, that the national elections just
0 A:  Yeah.
0 uh, as I mentioned I've had seven years of expatriate service with T I, and
1 she said,
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 almost think, that you think you're more important when you're out of the
1 A:  -- newspaper, and kind of forgot about it [laughter].
0 B:  -- because it was just so difficult --
0 B:  How about movies, do you like to go to movies?
0 buy some.
0 about pulling weeds and things like that.
1 fireplace wood,
0 B:  I agree with you. I, if we were going to get anything now it would
1 definitely be a cat, or even a bird or a fish tank or something, you know
0 B:  That'd be my self defense.  But,
0 B:  and I use the machine a lot on a, uh, uh, data base and financial package
1 lisp when I type, so to speak.
0 three eighty-six that just, you know, they're, they're gone, they're just over
0 B:  And, a couple of models that I've built, uh, f-, for school purposes that I
1 start in the evening and then go to bed,
0 between six hours and an hour and a half.
0 B:  No, I would agree with you.  We haven't had too much, but, uh,
0 part of the overmilitarization of Iraq was due to companies selling them arms
0 lot of resentment there towards America,
0 A:  Well, that's right, because that's just so much of the way that they make
1 their money and so many communities have, uh, have to have that for farming
0 and,
0 B:  Oh, okay.  Well mine actually came from the, um, Texas Instruments
1 A:  Uh-huh.  That's what I do too #[laughter].#
0 vegetarian.
0 A:  Oh, yeah, that's kind of hard.
0 B:  So, we're going to, I think we'll try to do something a little bit, we
1 B:  -- lots of vegetables,
1 A:  #Uh, you know,# it's, it's sitting there on the dock and you go an hour,
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 A:  [Laughter] and nothings happening.
0 B:  It's huge.  Yeah, and I was, I, is it like near Tyler or Texarkana #or
0 B:  And, uh, what a, what a fabulous darn school it was.  I was just really,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 trees and parks and things like that up here, and everything but --
0 of our house is kind of, angled kind of strange, I mean we're facing kind 
1 B:  -- then they really need water.
1 ============================================================================
0 to be had out there that a lot of people think, oh, but, if we both work, we
0 more public acceptance of things like that.  Because I know there are cases of
1 B:  Yeah, yeah.  That's true.  So, I guess, I, I'm pretty encouraged
0 with you.
0 A:  Oh, yeah.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Well #that's when,#
0 they kind of just scoot out of his way or take a step back, you know,
1 B:  #He ruined# his sweet position [laughter].
0 B:  I don't think there's any clear pick, you know.
1 B:  I am division one, you know [laughter].
1 money and they're the ones wasting all the money.
0 want banks.  Go ahead loan your money out, you know.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Right.
1 A:  Uh, well that's good.
0 (( )) chips.
1 off a month right now.  I call it my recession job.
1 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  There, okay.
0 A:  Oh, okay.
1 B:  Oh, my goodness [laughter].
0 A:  So, now they're a year older,
0 A:  I'm not, I think I can leave them home,
1 A:  to be called that, [laughter] care provider.
0 A:  Right.  She goes to seminars and, uh,
1 A:  so there is like a hundred and twenty second graders [laughter],
0 B:  Yeah, yeah.
1 up on this elephant with him [laughter],
0 A:  #Oh, my gosh.#
0 A:  #No.#
1 we've got a family now we don't seem to go out near as much as we used to
1 to give such large portions, so, you know, you really, I really enjoy eating
0 B:  Uh-huh, th-, we, um, I really enjoyed going to Copeland's,
0 B:  Yeah, a lot of T I people go there.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  Uh-huh, yeah.
1 A:  But then again it's difficult to keep them quiet. 
1 B:  so fast it will make my head swim, and I just can't figure that out
1 A:  Well, I think we've about discussed the subject [laughter].
1 A:  for him to listen to everybody.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 private investigator and he had been tailing the woman that was murdered and
1 B:  Yeah, that, that would have been fun to sit in on.
0 vacation.  [laughter]
0 A:  Yeah.
0 doesn't count.  But on the other hand, what can you do about it?  I me-, what,
0 B:  [laughter].
1 A:  Oh, we have one.
1 B:  Do they?
1 A:  With every passing day we wonder if we will be.
1 A:  No, no.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  So, how does she feel about going out and doing stuff with you
1 all.
0 A:  You know, they, they'd much rather be with friends, 
1 A:  #friends# are cool, parents aren't.
1 A:  Looking for arrowheads, and ...
1 A:  Uh, but they don't like it.
1 A:  Video games, boys and malls.
1 A:  Fathers don't even like malls, they despise shopping.
1 A:  and, uh, kids eat funny.
0 A:  Go on a diet or they, they have a, well, [noise] to some extent the
1 A:  I, I'm not sure.
1 A:  because everyone needs some torture in their lives.
0 including lodging and food and all that.
1 A:  Yeah, yeah, food and junk to carry out.
1 A:  But, golly!
0 newspapers and T V would be tied after that because maybe I'll catch the, the
0 A:  I really, of course, you, you're in a different part of the country, I, I
1 they don't even know,
0 B:  uh, system that kicks in, and it comes on with C N N in the
1 reading and driving [laughter].
0 Little small weekly things, but there's only one daily, uh, called the NEWS
0 uh, consequently everything is filtered through that, uh, Republican
0 boards and all that?  We have that addition to our paper.
0 A:  My wife and I, you know, as mentioned, the question was, uh, do you get it
1 know,
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 A:  #Yeah, I've, I've heard that, yeah.#
1 B:  #I see.#  Okay.
1 B:  No, not at all.
1 A:  Yeah.  It, uh, justice system, #uh, and, uh,#
0 B:  and would all the jurors have to agree on.  Okay.
0 A:  this guy bit another guy's finger off [laughter].
0 what, uh, punishment should be meted out.
0 everywhere.  Being as I hadn't been all the way through, you know, anything
0 {pause} we were dealing with, uh, with the state #laws, not necessarily,#
1 both agree [laughter].
1 B:  Oh, he does? [Laughter] Yeah [Sniffing].
0 A:  They just came down and like say, okay, this aunt and Uncle Kip, uh, all
0 A:  No.
0 an adult they still tell all kinds of stories about their parents and their
0 want. 
0 A:  to use good judgment and dress tastefully and dress for whatever
0 that got me going, I don't know much about it at all, but those little Geos.
1 A:  I get about thirteen miles per gallon.
1 B:  Whoa [laughter].
0 they're kept in, uh, better condition than, uh, most other cars.
1 A:  Get out out of, uh, uh, driving this, uh, teenage, teenage automobile
1 I'm going to drive this car until it dies.
0 A:  Yeah, well that's the point, it isn't costing me any money right now, it's
1 policy.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  I think it should be in other cases other than just shooting a policeman
0 B:  Yeah.  I agree.  Uh, I heard something on the news the other night they
0 I mean, I,
0 protesting this guy's execution.
0 seen those?
1 B:  I never even thought about that.  God, maybe I'll take it out.
0 B:   I hadn't even thought about it [laughter].  That's terrible.
1 side and, and, uh,
1 B:  Yeah. 
1 you know, something had to go wrong.  
1 camping trips, it, the coldest Easter ever.
0 B:  We left here, uh, we left here it was shorts weather, in, uh, on Easter,
1 she said I'm going into town and we're going to buy some long johns.
0 B:  Yeah, uh-huh.
0 almost can't do them all in a day, you know.
1 A:  #Right.# Right.  And, if you have to have it in a hurry, something's wrong
1 B:  what they need it for #all of a sudden here.  Um,#
1 B:  Gosh, if I was a cop I would be, 
0 and the e-, exterior of the house short of the breezeway, and the, and the
0 B:  proud of their homes and they've managed to take care of them.
0 situation,
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Well, right now the place where I'm living, the yard was basically
1 B:  Killing lots of fire ants. 
1 winter rye out back, and we have, I don't even know what it is out front,
0 used Dursban and Diazinon and get out there and do what you do [laughter] with
0 they are, but [breathing] you can't have a garden, you can't till it, or
0 it'll, it'll tear up a nice tiller [breathing].  So we're going to wait until
1 A:  Well, um, I don't have a lot of time to watch T V, unfortunately
1 A:  This is not a good subject.  Um, I, when, the little bit of time I do
1 B:  Um, I don't, I don't care for WHEEL OF FORTUNE very [laughter] much.
0 A:  specials.  Those, those are great too. 
0 B:  And they're, they're good.  They're, they're, I like news shows too.  Like,
1 know, who they are raking over the coals [laughter].
1 B:  twists, 
0 she wasn't, and the, and this law firm took on the case, and got her off, um,
0 B:  -- and that's how he basically got her off, by, by casting a shadow of
0 doubt, saying, well, this other, his daughter did it, you know, and because
1 A:  not after that STAR SPANGLED BANNER thing [laughter].
1 she's always trying to get him out of jams,
0 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  Yeah.  Well, see, that was, that's another thing, if I would have been home
0 A:  Right, well, that's it.  I, but I have gotten, we have cable and so --
0 B:  I think out here they are still about five fifty -- 
0 B:  -- about a dollar less.
1 A:  so, uh, uh, you know he enjoys that but, uh, um, I, [laughter].
0 that's a good comedy.  I'm not real much for the sitcoms because of
1 B:  [Breathing] Well, [breathing] I think we've probably talked long enough
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  and try to, try to, you know, go through and figure out, because most of
1 A:  I really don't know [breathing].  Well, maybe some other genius can figure
1 B:  Well, maybe, maybe we'll get this question again, and can,
1 gave, said, Oh, it would take me about, just about four hours,
1 A:  Isn't that amazing?
1 B:  Oh, I know,
1 A:  Funny.  And I go what makes you a professional?  [laughter] You know?
0 A:  -- blue cast to it. 
0 [laughter] to do it too, by the end,
0 B:  trying to repair our own cars, and, 
0 A:  I, well, yeah, I, [laughter] think so [laughter]. 
0 those particular condominiums, [breathing] and I don't, I didn't watch them,
1 A:  Well, maybe there are some professionals out there [laughter].
1 [laughter], replenished on the table.
0 don't know, that's just something that I really picked up on, I really did
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 B:  Um. 
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  Um. 
1 know it was, it was a,
1 A:  I couldn't believe it. 
1 were watering [laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  I, I can maybe eat some jalapenos but I really don't, you know, ask for
1 diet, so we haven't gone out,
0 A:  up here it's, it's, the restaurant business has fallen off --
0 folks.  I thought it was all scattered out among graduate schools or
1 B:  Yeah. 
1 system?  You, well what do you do out there?
0 A:  I'm somewhat of a car buff [breathing].  Almost all of it is metric.
1 A:  And I was thinking I've got to get an eighteen,
1 thought, well, I guess either I lost the eighteen,
0 A:  Right, yeah.
0 A:  [Talking] {people in background}.
1 any more engineers,
0 you still should do what you want,
0 A:  You can go ahead and start if you want, uh,
1 mansion and a yacht.  Isn't it nice I can make my neighbors pay for it
0 the flack they received.  But, but, still another one of the big examples of
0 B:  but the government, I think is supposed to be doing is, is defending our
0 A:  And, uh, ((the)) really what given it was given to them by Congress.
1 noises# --
1 B:  Well, I hadn't read it and I couldn't figure what was going on #half the
0 B:  Huh.  Well, I have one I bet you haven't seen if you don't have kids.  OTIS
1 A:  -- that it was Christmas Eve.  #I mean# --
1 you.#
1 you seen THE GODS MUST BE CRAZY, PART TWO?
1 was about the size of a, a medium house #[laughter].  Yeah.  It wasn't,#
1 A:  Okay, big deal.  Here's some rocks sitting out in the middle #of a field.
1 Okay [laughter].  It's boring.#
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  #[Laughter]#  Probably some of them did [laughter].
1 A:  You know, you know, you know.  Like critically acclaimed.  
0 B:  -- #if you're,# you know, if you're two miles away from water [laughter].
0 B:  Right,
0 paying for, for that and, and child care was my, uh,
1 A:  Can't deduct it so what's it good for [laughter]. 
1 wherever ch-, it happens to be cheapest and they happen to want to survive at
1 [laughter],
0 go off to work and it's cheaper for me to do that and take vacation even if I,
1 A:  Hum.  Well, I speaking of kids I've one hollering at me so,
1 A:  I don't want it all over the brick and windows and,
0 B:  in order to do it again. 
1 A:  I wish you good luck.
0 B:  Just that, uh, money is power,
0 I mean, you know, I think the people in those country do want our help.  The
0 A:  So,
0 B:  Right.
0 A:  can you contrast the Europeans and their vocalism on their rights to, to
0 A:  Uh, I don't,
0 oopsy.
0 B:  Really. 
1 B:  to think that we're richer and yet everybody is intellectually poorer
0 the Japanese moving in and the Russians moving in certain areas of technology,
0 A:  Wow!  This is quite a, quite a long distance.
1 Well, after you had an animal for a [laughter] couple of weeks, it's, uh,
1 up to me or to just run and knock me over.
0 B:  #[Laughter].#
0 B:  Sure [talking].  Oh, absolutely.
1 B:  And so it jumped up on my bed and anointed my blanket,
1 attention now?#
1 day.
1 all over.
1 and oh, by the way, do you want me to, to bury the cat #[laughter].#
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 little kitten over to, uh, to my folks.
0 communities [talking] and have the issues there and then everybody go vote
1 that's the only,#
0 B:  But, uh, everything should be started on the lower levels and, uh,
0 B:  #Right.#
0 uh, before that's going to be accomplished [clicking].
0 A:  -- able to vote [lipsmack].  And, uh, so he went in and now #he's a# --
0 A:  -- registered voter.  But he would not #vote# --
1 B:  I'm like, really.
0 the Brownies and then the mother got involved as a leader and then all of a
0 organization, which the organization can use the help too.
1 you need a hobby, so, she chose the cats.
0 B:  And you can tell, it's a family hobby.  [laughter] The-, they're all a
1 A:  They're really nice looking cats.  I have seven cats but they're all
1 A:  {Still whispering}  Ugh, house payment [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  except that I consider them my children [laughter].
0 just all have young kids.
1 She's only five, but I think she planned it [laughter].
0 sounds like it's just the pits but it's not all that bad, ((I guess)) but,
0 A:  you know, just all around these vacant buildings, ((just)) a lot of
0 vacant buildings, and they're just being demolished,
0 A:  So, have you got, uh, land? 
0 B:  Uh, to tell you the truth right now it feels kind of comfy to have our
0 B:  and, and, and the, uh, the law says that if you've got a certain quantity
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 would almost worry about that more than if she didn't have one.
0 splintered wood from all the places that it hit going around the room.
0 B:  uh, well, it's, too, late.  Hey, if I were starting my own country from
0 B:  but of course, uh, it's also true in Great Britain. 
0 We generally don't have a lot left over.  But as far as the long term, our
1 things, uh, we don't have a lot of, uh, you know, like J C Penny's in our
0 [laughter],
0 mother-in-law lives, uh, not too far from here, so she helps with our son's
1 car breaks down [laughter].
0 now.  My wife just went back to work part-time, uh, she can substitute teach
0 catch up with us, if I am, or you know, I c-, we can't go on a two week
0 B:  Well, the last movie I saw was GHOSTS.  I, there's a lot out that I'd like
0 A:  [Talking] I think it, you know, it probably was a good movie.  I just, uh,
1 told me not to see FLATLINERS so,
1 B:  I was prepared for that j-, I still cried, 
0 A:  Right.
0 cheaper to pay a dollar to see it than to, you know, to pay,
1 commitment.
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  ((I thought also)), I wanted to see the, THE MARRYING MAN, with, uh,
1 longer have any other cats.
0 harming her, uh, I think, I think a lot of that, that, that we hear all the
0 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't dare have a, a goldfish here because,
0 time,#
0 B:  padding everything,
0 he has changed, um, the brakes and he has done all of the tune-ups and the ((
1 crept over forty years old, where I don't want to crawl underneath the car
0 B:  I mean it's, um, I don't know whether I've, I've just reached a point, you
0 spend the time, it takes a lot of time if he, if he thinks it's going to be
0 now and there's a lot, lo-, other more important things I think I should be
0 you take more care in what you're doing,
0 B:  Yeah. that's probably, uh, uh, something that, uh, is, is you know, is good
0 uninformed he was and disinterested.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  So, always have a patch put on.  It's, it's happened to me twice and that's
0 got to do is just tighten them.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  The thing about it though is the Panamanians is, a lot of servicemen down
0 move in, like less nations, you know,
0 of heavy duty.
1 A:  Oh, and it's not deductible anymore. 
0 A:  and from that built, you know, a cash budget.  So now, I mean, I have, I
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 the meantime.
1 one and four [laughter].
1 A:  That's, that's twelve hundred dollars a year just on lunch. 
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 have seen the caricatures of Halloween cats?
0 B:  Yeah.  Uh, my little prize is the little Himalayan Persian. 
1 and laying down on the sofa and she gets up on my chest where I can't see the
1 follows you from room to room.
0 B:  Yeah, that sounds like Kitty Cat, our, our Bombay.  She's, very athletic,
0 B:  No, we're going to, we're going to catch her doing some, some of the
0 there and stick that long skinny paw in there.
0 B:  And she's not, she's not athletic like Kitty Cat I mean the two of them,
1 her and Sheba will just turn around and throw her to the floor.
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 three to four hundred dollars for a stud.
1 walk.  [laughter] And a whole lot of things like that.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  you know, I feel guilty all the time, because, oh, I shouldn't be eating
0 A:  You know, it's tough to, to work everything in that you want to accomplish
0 B:  I have gone out and started walking even more, bought me the, you know,
1 B:  and I said "you can walk off your lunch."
1 A:  and, I'll go for like two weeks and go, this is for the birds,
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Just chasing him around the house, you know,
0 a friend of mine, "Oh, we're going to do this, we're going to do this," and we
1 B:  in the car.
0 A:  Yeah.  That doesn't work very well either [breathing].  Uh, I don't know,
0 A:  You got it.  
1 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  And, it was, it was just bedlam.  We really didn't have a quarterback.  It
0 A:  And, of course, we had a different coach then, too.  But they'd treat him
0 all of them were bad.
0 B:  it was sunny and forty-five degrees.  So, we couldn't a done much better
0 are doing it to,
0 Boy, I'll tell you what, I barely make ends meet, and they raise taxes and
1 B:  No.  They're not.
0 B:  I know how hard it is for me to get by [baby_crying].
1 A:  we could save the country but, 
0 work-, you know, not making defense stuff [/noise].
1 right?
0 A:  companies he represented, but I was told because you're single they
0 they, they are right in some of the things they do.
0 B:  But then they don't know how it really, you know, to me they don't know
0 she got some people to help her.  And she had one and then she was doing a
0 B:  Yeah.
0 store.  I don't know how she's doing but it, I g-, you have to admire the
0 A:  No.  It, it, #it's also kind of# ...
0 just taken over.
0 B:  You know. #So, but# ...
0 B:  -- Chinese or, or foreign.  I don't #what# --
0 B:  [Child_talking] No, I remember when I was in college, I didn't have time to
0 B:  you know, it's like I can only do it when I have time.  I have a whole
1 B:  I just kind of sew for my kids and that's about it, so.
0 hobbies, mine are just mostly, you know things I just do out of necessity.
0 B:  That's it, we don't take care of them, we don't support them,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  like for drugs, for drugs they, they enforce the death penalty for that.
0 B:  I mean, we educate them, we feed them, we take care of them and they no
0 B:  Well, really, there's, there's no question but you have a nineteen, I mean,
0 A:  I mean it looks, I guess, kind of like, uh, the Chevy Aerostar or Arrow,
1 A:  I'd like to have a sports car too, but it's not practical for me,
0 B:  um, but I'll probably, um, it just depends, I know that's what I want,
1 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  I hope it's not my (( )), [noise], you there?
0 A:  Oh, those are nice,
0 B:  Uh-huh.  But, uh, I think [noise] hello,
0 me out.  Um, but he, I think he, he only spent, you know, the low twenty's so,
0 A:  Yeah. 
0 thousand, but those are pretty stripped, and there's nothing, there's really,
0 B:  Uh, well, it's, it's, uh, in terms of north, south I would say it's, uh, a
0 being real dry, and lack of water, course it, it has all of those qualities
0 B:  It's very pleasant. 
1 A:  I just ((like)) I just finished watching that a few minutes ago,
1 A:  also ((saves a lot of time)) with commercials. 
0 there.
1 policemen or something else,
0 A:  Okay. 
0 B:  Huh. 
1 A:  Oh, all the time. 
0 B:  No, and, and from everything that I can gather, you know, reading different
0 people that have chronic accidents, and test those, you know, that's a start,
1 A:  Well, I've been lucky, I've been called twice [laughter].
0 B:  Oh, I see.
0 times, you know, uh, they'll go, oh, yeah, I was on a prescription for this,
0 A:  We had a couple,
1 B:  I enjoy reading novels and then, uh, you know, more serious stuff
1 B:  So, but, I guess that's a little off the subject. 
1 minutes [laughter],
0 B:  Oh, you have to do it,
1 life sentence, if you have to do that, you might as well shoot them.
0 A:  before they even, do, I mean, they've been assigned the death penalty and
0 shoe could drop,
0 uh, uh, statutes of limits and eve-, all that other stuff, you know, they,
0 where now, uh, that they advertise on T V, you know.  If your, if you, uh, you
1 not, uh, lawyers.  In the fact, and that's, wa-, way they've gotten into
0 some of the things he does.
1 that I ought to replace,
1 A:  When you matured [laughter]. 
0 B:  and things like that. 
1 A:  Oh, now come on, no Texas Rangers? 
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 ((and)) so we took two kids with us and nobody brings two children in these
0 B:  Because they're fancy seats and stuff.
1 waiting and waiting and waiting and you eat these lousy the hot dogs
0 that)),
0 A:  No, your, I have a friend now that has seven.  And, um, and they're all
1 always give her a hard time (( )) who's toothbrush did you really use this
0 it's a different kind and a lot times people think, oh, well, I'm not blessed
0 A:  It's like a Macy's,
1 so I'm encouraged [laughter].
1 this stuff in.
1 B:  Oh okay. 
0 B:  [Laughter] Exactly.
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.
1 A:  Hope, hope the stud will find her attractive.
0 point Himie, so that the silver will be predominate in the kittens.
1 know [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah, uh.
0 B:  Uh, oh yeah, it's, it's deader than a doornail up here.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 an it's a lot different than Dallas [laughter]. 
0 years so I was up, you know, pretty close to where you guys are.  
0 B:  Don't have to do anything.
0 they don't remember the outrage they felt at the time.  You know, that, oh my
0 daddy is, you know.
1 A:  No, you, an adult can't grasp something like that, 
0 children are going to be fatherless forever and this guy ought, chances are,
0 A:  #Kind of fizzles out.#   Yeah, that's true, that's true.
0 police, to heck with them, you know.  The police asked me if I wanted to press
0 A:  #sa-,# a sale or,
0 B:  Is that right? 
1 another one [laughter].
0 B:  -- a few Texaco stations. 
0 A:  I, I did have a problem with American Express one time about ten years ago,
0 B:  #Uh-huh.#  
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
1 nasty letter threatening legal action.
0 A:  #he just, he just thinks# they're terrific. 
0 be, you know, supposedly your grade was a little majority of my views and my
0 original trust, I guess.
0 be irate if they said it was positive and I knew it wasn't,
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 other side of the ocean as it were, some of the, uh, revolutions and desires
0 would have before or the other governments do.  Um, I suppose that's a, as
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 you know, we're moving in the, in a kind of direction toward each other.
0 to it,
0 article but the headlines anyway indicated that there's a, a seems to be a
0 there.
0 B:  How much time did she spend with them? 
0 a lot of time with them.
0 trouble or they're stuck in a day care.  And I just, I just don't want my
0 communications,
0 A:  #Absolutely.# 
1 B:  he thought surely that I, or I would have bought a hot line,
0 B:  #That's right.#  
0 me now because I appreciate the value of the dollar,
0 B:  I, I shouldn't say I don't know if it was any worse, but it certainly
1 in high school because he got them from a friend who lived in Massachusetts
0 listen to jazz,
1 B:  but I, you know, now that there's just a million rap groups and,
0 B:  -- unless there's something I'm particularly listening to.  But, you know,
0 A:  Yeah [laughter].  I bought some at Christmas time for friends of mine that
1 while.
1 decide what I want to listen to,
1 B:  -- and concert band type activities, and he thinks that would be good for
0 years,
1 A:  -- [Breathing] and we have a powerful computer down at work.
1 B:  fascinating.  Uh-huh. 
0 B:  uh, Junior, yeah.  Yeah, ours is a Commodore One Twenty-eight.
1 powerful.
1 [breathing] and then you can, uh, edit it.  Right?
0 belief all my life, I guess, has been that, [breathing] that if you take
0 someone else's life, then you automatically ((are)) giving up, [breathing] uh,
0 [breathing] so much with the prison system, you know, I mean, because the, the
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Yes, they are.   
1 A:  -- unless you've got something else, well,
1 B:  that same house here would probably cost three-quarters of a million
0 A:  It, it sounds like, I mean, from the way you described it a home like that
0 say three bedroom, uh, two and a half baths, [breathing] on a half acre or so
1 B:  Nor do we, but,  
1 [breathing] um, there were probably, like two or three styles you could choose
0 A:  Well, I just, 
0 B:  And so, we, uh, I was just looking, for example there is a, uh, condominium
0 B:  Now, it was very nicely done.   
1 A:  Wow [laughter].
1 B:  So, it's, uh,  
1 B:  Yeah, so,  
1 B:  it's, it's really sad [laughter].   
0 A:  Well, I, I like where all the controls are --
0 but,
0 A:  I wasn't even looking for a car when I bought this car.  I, uh, I was
1 largest impulse that I,
1 [laughter],
0 the teams I really root for in football are the Niners and the Seahawks, um,
1 B:  Okay.  Yeah, I enjoyed that because it was against the Skins.
0 happen.
0 Baltimore Sun has this, uh, cartoonist in the sports section and, uh,
1 Ryan, I got fired can you believe that [laughter].
0 from the Inner Harbor, which is really stupid because one of the big selling
1 B:  really learned to hate Indianapolis while I was out there [laughter].
1 A:  Okay.
0 A:  ((Oh, yeah)).  Where, where are you calling from?
1 [laughter].  I don't know.
1 weird Japanese voices and,
0 B:  Yeah.
0 it and, and Brackman decided to try and do away with him, so he fired him
0 {sounds like speaker is talking to someone in the room}.
0 B:  Jeez.
1 own person.
1 A:  Yeah, I know [laughter].
0 A:  That's who he put in charge of the firm.  He, 
1 A:  I know [laughter].
0 it was no big deal, you could get rid of them.  But now there's just simply no
0 way to get rid of these things.  And you see more and more of that around
0 B:  It has less sulfur in it than processed fuel oil for the house.
0 A:  and they've put a stop to any open burning of any kind, and they are
0 A:  #The fellow who# recycles the paper and the plastic and the aluminum, he's
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  I mean, if it's, if it's, uh, foo-, you know, if it's stuff you scraped off
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 baby, she stayed home.  And, and we had a second baby and she's still at home
0 A:  [Laughter] Yes.
0 A:  and they, everybody decided to come over and talk to me right now.  But,
0 to have, um, some time with them.  So he, when he comes home, he, um, you
1 you know,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 fifty bucks [laughter].
1 application.
0 B:  Um, that's an idea. 
0 B:  Uh-huh, uh-huh. 
0 and drag the tarp out front,
0 B:  Well, our company does some things, all of which I couldn't even tell you
1 A:  Gee, my, my son works for, no, not for that, okay.  Excuse me, go ahead
0 type of thing. 
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  Well, we only live probably about fifteen, twenty miles from Knox. 
0 of our main water sheds that feed the Clarion Ri-, River. 
0 awful lot of young people who would benefit from, um, some sort of public
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 office.
0 happens when you die and everything and are there really angels and ghost and
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  Oh, right.  Elliot and, uh, Nancy. 
0 B:  Right.  Right.  But we go out occasionally and, um, there's some, there's
0 A:  #when, when# I place the call they just, you don't have cho-, well,
0 that live with you or have lived with your parents or something like that?
0 B:  # Yeah.  #
0 A:  And, um, eventually, the, at the, they said, no, to the doctor. 
0 I mean if you just, if you go, every time we go visit her it's just, it's just
0 B:  # So it's,#
0 B:  # Yeah.  #
1 A:  All right, do you do garden work?
1 A:  Yeah, well I guess you glad you got to go to college so you'd get some rest
0 B:  [Laughter]  But we have like a lot, like my mom likes flowers, so we have a
0 it's like a little apartment building.  And she has a tomato plant year round.
1 his [laughter].
0 A:  Uh-huh.  That what the look like, but they only bloom for one day. 
1 I had a whole bunch of different kinds of things,
1 to take the grass? [laughter].
1 we're not taking that.
1 think we will leave that. 
0 they would, you know, if I left like one bulb of each one of them, by this year
1 A:  I mean, and it is ugly. 
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 run it up a fence --
0 of weigh it down.  But, I mean, cucumbers here grow like crazy. 
0 know, a bit of an eye-opener, I guess, even to see some of the, the portions
0 kind of were confident that they could just move right on into industry, and
0 B:  See T I just started that policy.  They have a random drug testing policy. 
0 talked about the, the statistics of it and how they've tried to figure out, you
0 B:  So.  #But I don't,#
0 B:  I do.  Uh, I know where my father works, he, he works for a government
1 B:  Right.  Uh,
1 B:  I guess the only, the only concern I'd have,
0 A:  Yeah, so he's still kicking around. 
1 one of those in any, any given year.  So.
0 A:  Yeah, good talking with you.  And, and you'll be happy I think in October
1 B:  No.  I don't. 
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  Yeah.  Well, we went over to her house, so we told her, you know, pro-,
0 B:  Yeah. 
1 B:  No, especially we're going to spend the next eighteen years,
0 A:  # [Laughter].  #
0 B:  Yeah.  I don't think she checks things out very well [children] [barking].
1 B:  I know. 
1 A:  # clean # and smelled wonderful in there, but,
1 A:  you know, I, that, I didn't base everything on that. 
0 A:  Well, nowadays you have to be. 
0 I heard noises that I did not hear in the first two sections.  After listening
0 Speaker B's section did not match up.  Sometimes it sounded like one speaker 
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 A:  #so# I haven't really seen any movies in the movie theater but I rent
1 so many people said oh, no it wasn't, you know.  But I guess,
1 A:  Oh, [laughter] well I hope I don't run across them. 
0 A:  #and# seeing like all, I've seen all of James Dean's movies. 
1 the sofa to get you, or something, you know,
1 B:  Oh, that was one of my favorites, yes. 
0 A:  Uh, Hogan?
1 reverse. 
1 Dallas.
0 A:  But, uh, I, uh, and I love to be out in the summertime, I love to be out
0 B:  # Oh.  #
1 the lawn, but I want to go out and run.  Now, which do I do first?
1 dark and I'm going to have to guess where, where the line is to mow. 
0 A:  # and # I talked to my parents on the phone, I said, you know, we Texans
1 stand wore pinstripes suits and played baseball.
0 A:  Oh, yeah because of the foundation problem.  You know that's an interesting
1 as we left, uh, they only lived downstairs. 
0 A:  Well when we came back, what used to be our flower beds were solid Saint
0 B:  Well do you have kids and a husband, are you sewing for a whole family or,
1 A:  And, uh, it would have helped me out tremendously [laughter]. 
0 A:  Right.  I have a sister that can, can, uh, crochet real well,
0 in the top of the closet [laughter].
0 B:  One of these days I keep thinking I'm going to finish it because it would
1 A:  Right. 
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  Yeah. 
1 then I didn't mind cutting it out and sewing it.
0 A:  # It # is obvious.  And they know that.  They're, they're not going to
0 B:  # first # of all that not all, all persons who I think, should be receiving
1 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 streamlining so that, if a person is, um, convicted,
1 that, and that's why, you know, I'm like, okay, what's my role in this thing,
0 Speakers part and breath noises from Speaker A.  
1 ther-, there is a lot of people in our country that would go right off the roof
0 A:  [Laughter]  Why is that? Do you think the average citizen has the, the, um,
0 would be higher than my chances of using it effectively on them.
0 instruction, N R, say N R A certified firearms instruction. 
0 went along with their legendary side arm, the kukri,
0 it. 
1 but I, I've not ever felt comfortable in it.  I guess it's [laughter], I'm
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Yeah.
1 LIVE.  We were the only normal seeming human people in the whole place almost.
1 eating his f-, eating their food.
1 A:  Yeah. 
1 the worst of both worlds, communism and capitalism. 
0 A:  #I# mean, they talk about unification, unification, and now they're
0 A:  #it just# means the press decided to cover something else [music]  {in
0 the Soviet Union, I wouldn't trust them either, you know. 
1 A:  #and# I guess they, they feel a bit ashamed they've done so well
1 help them [laughter]. 
0 spent during the sixties, graduating, uh, high school in sixty-eight.  Um, I
1 I was smart, ran away and got married,
0 Every time somebody wants something they always turn to the government.  And,
0 A:  [Throat_clearing]. 
0 think they really have a strong decline and start to settle down and realize
0 is just advancing so rapidly that, and there's so much information available
0 B:  But, all, I mean there are, even though there's a few up here, we call them
1 A:  Well, that's good, at least you're hitting the books, right. 
1 B:  Oh, I don't blame you.
0 B:  And when it get more than that and, uh, so I just, it, went out for
0 B:  #really# pretty fascinating.  And I [laughter], and that was actually a
0 B:  #any biographies.# Uh, I love to read.  I mean, I'm constantly reading.  I
0 didn't read for some reason or another, another, or that, you know, that you
1 cry, the ending of it.
0 B:  #you# know.  And she knows so much more of them than I do, I wouldn't even
0 read a lot of the things like you might find at, uh, well, like at a Target or
1 remember,
0 words and developing a picture in your mind. 
0 your best friend,
0 B:  #I# gathered you might be a teacher. 
1 B:  Well, well, today, uh, when I got up it was twenty-nine degrees. 
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  # Um.  #
1 A:  Oh, I mean it was raining so hard you could swim down the street. 
1 B:  Thanks a lot [laughter]. 
1 A:  Uh, in between the thunder showers, yes. 
1 A:  You, are you sure you didn't leave your refrigerator door open?
0 have really been disastrous. 
1 A:  a dog lover myself. 
1 Beach somewhere. 
0 B:  Um. 
0 ahead of time, uh, uh, #absentee?,#
0 national elections should be more than one day.  I mean,
0 A:  Yeah.  And as far as local, local elections are concerned [cough],  pardon
0 B:  Uh, yeah, I don't,
1 B:  #Yeah.#  Well down payment is a tough problem I guess.
0 B:  Well, the one now is, is, uh, it's got a heat pump.
1 mortgage is #with, with the taxes.#
1 B:  What?
1 B:  What?
0 really sure what is going to happen a year from now.
0 !!187.25
0 !!200.91
1 A:  -- you know, living in a house is something you're going to have to do
0 B:  Yeah [noise].
0 B:  #Yeah.  I had to waste a lot of money on my car.# That was the biggest
0 !!284.27
0 B:  And today was my thesis defense and I passed.
1 B:  #So# we're getting ready for a big party #[laughter].#
0 !!507.20
1 knocking on my door.  I didn't even like interview.  They came looking for me
1 B:  Big garage.  A big basement.  
1 get old #[laughter].#
0 B:  That's great.
0 we're in, they have, uh, really, a lot of computers.  Uh, it's a very wealthy
0 private school during Junior High, I probably wouldn't have developed such
1 B:  #That's, that's pretty average to me [laughter].#
1 A:  Me too [laughter].  You're really roughing it. 
0 A:  I would too. 
1 A:  Yeah [laughter]. 
1 B:  You're pretty Texan. 
1 B:  So, i-, i-, if I have one, it must be very, very slight. 
0 B:  # Right.  #
0 A:  [Laughter]  All the time.  I got real used to it then. 
0 A:  [Laughter]  You have to get poison ivy and all that good stuff,
0 A:  Yeah.  Well do you, you, you say you haven't been in years?
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
1 B:  I know lots of women would do it all the [laughter]  time. 
1 A:  No, you're not old [laughter]. 
0 [laughter]. 
1 @B:  Hello [laughter].  I was, I was thinking about our topic for the night
1 do, do you think about it? [laughter]. 
1 A:  Uh-huh, uh-huh. 
0 A:  # lack # of basic information, being ((dissimilated)). And I'm not saying
0 They have no idea why not, some, some of them, you know.  The ones that have
1 the city [laughter]. 
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 B:  # No.  #
0 B:  [Sigh] I feel sorry for her. 
0 @@A:  Yeah, I do too.  Well, It's been good talking with you. 
0 B:  Are you fly fishing or are you using a bobber?
1 A:  You know how that changes, the phase of the moon and,
0 B:  Yeah.  I've been up there. 
0 B:  Before it got too hot. 
1 A:  And nights. 
0 A:  # out there, and # you know how it is.  The water's kind of,
0 were there, and I guess it was late May, so it was really your spring almost,
0 probably until about the ten o'clock news. 
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  # Right.  #
1 A:  Well, um, I don't know what to say [laughter]. 
0 B:  They were just north of it. 
1 A:  Yeah.  It's a lot more humid down that way. 
1 A:  # a # bunch.  Well, I guess that's it [laughter]. 
0 A:  Yeah.  Um.
1 A:  and  it's like, well, you know, no more,
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 something, and the four year old eats for free.  And, uh, the grown ups get
1 B:  [Laughter] I know.  
1 not a big seafood fan.  So, you know, it's like great, we go,
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  Right.  Yeah. 
1 A:  And she's like, No, not more baseball! [laughter]. 
0 A:  know, we usually get out of there for around twenty bucks. 
1 A:  Oh, sorry [laughter]. 
0 margaritas in, I don't know, do, do you ever go to Howard Johnson's? In, uh, I,
1 gourmet.
0 me,
0 B:  Um.  
0 A:  two egg rolls and like, you know, I don't know, a pint or two pints or
0 What do you propose that they do?  What, what is your suggestions?
1 B:  Everything I learned about ancient Rome ha-, has not helped me anywhere in,
1 A:  Yes, I definitely agree.  [laughter] There's no doubt about that.
0 B:  To a point,
1 what good does thi-, I mean, how is this helping?  I mean, either way.
0 A:  Yeah, that's true.
0 because of it, you and I are the main taxpayers now, are going to have to pay
0 A:  #Uh-huh.#
0 B:  #Oh, okay.#
0 American taxpayer. 
0 A:  Right. 
0 hear,
0 A:  and a son, seventeen, who's a senior in high school.
0 A:  Then about the third call, they said, We want to know.  We're going to
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 [laughter].
0 used to.  I used to do, like salt ornaments and things.
1 very good [laughter], 
0 [lipsmack] some needlepoint.  I've done mostly cross stitching.  I used to,
1 A:  #all# the time and, and I don't even know how to knit [laughter], 
0 B:  # whatever # they're,
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 B:  anything.  Uh, but that doesn't mean that they don't.  I don't watch much
0 B:  # You know.  So,#
0 A:  # be true.  #
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  Right.  Yeah.  We weren't,
0 A:  # Yeah.  #
1 B:  # know.  I mean, # I don't know, I think a lot of people still will, but
0 on that.  On our newer one, uh, uh, mini vans, it's all electronic and
0 B:  Yeah.  Yeah.  I do my own brake, brake work on the Honda.  I just {pause}
0 father did it.  You know, my dad didn't do much at all, and he doesn't know
0 damage he could just kind of like fill in the little ridges where the, where
0 B:  Right, right, but it, it's going to be a while, I think but,
0 A:  Oh, no kids. 
0 HOUSE, right?
0 B:  Right.  I know, I always liked #that cart-,#
1 B:  Oh, no, no, no, no, [laughter]. 
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  But, so, all the talk shows here are on during the day. 
1 B:  Oh, gosh. 
0 entertaining for, uh, for the audience there. 
0 A:  But they're always coming up with something strange.  And they claim it's
1 A:  I can't say it's not entertaining, though. 
0 A:  I, I usually catch the, the afternoon sports shows. 
1 A:  I was glued to the T V for two, two weeks. 
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 walking around down there and pretty much not fear for your life, you know,
0 this first started, they were even reluctant to let them do that. 
0 B:  Do you like the classics like, uh, GONE WITH THE WIND and, uh, you know the
1 you know, we walk into the video store and we're like well why don't we go see
0 B:  I thought it was kind of maybe for kids more, than ad-,
1 is. 
0 hadn't already wanted to see. 
0 B:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 B:  I was just going to say, th-, you should see those, fi-, uh, first if you
0 A:  No. 
0 A:  They did, uh, they got rid of a lot of familiar names and got a lot of
0 B:  I guess, yeah. 
1 A:  I mean L A, sorry. 
1 A:  Yeah, I, I would qualify the U S government as,
0 A:  Yes.  I seem to recall something about revolutions and wars about double
0 are very, very good at what they do.  So until I see the entire, quote, old
1 when I can, I like to ride my regular bike outside, because it's so much
0 A:  Really? 
1 B:  Uh, 
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Well, that's funny, I never would have thought of that.
0 you how, everything to do, and how to do it, and the whole nine yards.  So it
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 or something like that.  In addition to what one does,
0 B:  Oh, well good.  Th-, you'll have a little time think about that.  I guess,
1 they, uh, the local chapter of the K K K wanted to, uh,
0 visited relatives in Virginia, not too long ago, and I thought I had seen,
0 when we were traveling around the state, some similar signs up that indicated
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Well, the thing about that is though, it's got a, I mean because
0 B:  Ah!
0 uh, we got up there, and we had the little pills you're supposed to put in the
0 A:  Right. 
1 uh, water thing.  And of course I got sick. 
0 A:  #it's,# uh, it's, it, uh, you don't have to put very much effort into it. 
1 And, uh, boys, I guess as I get older, that'll get more and more [laughter], 
1 and, uh,
0 A:  #tough as,#
0 B:   #Uh-huh.#  
0 B:  #But I,#
1 A:  I was really, and boy, I can still remember that #Kirk Gibson,#
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 here that got cable, and that particular game was some reason or
1 A:   #about eight# straight wins.  And we happen to go out there #on win night
0 A:  -- We may have to go less.  But, what we like to do, the, uh, the stands
0 B:  #Um.# 
0 A:   #get some pretty# good #seats  too.# 
0 A:  Oh, yeah. 
1 A:  -- looks like it, you know [laughter]. 
0 B:  Really?
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
1 A:  And we call them mud bugs [laughter]. 
0 B:  #or# something?
0 A:  a blackening seasoning. 
0 when you cook it.  I mean,
0 A:  And, uh, we're only going down there for the food, though [laughter]. 
1 vote. 
0 A:  #Yeah, yeah.#
0 taxes in this country, we have the duty to pay taxes. 
0 A:  #Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.#
0 where he was arguing for a republican, not in the sense of the Republican party
1 I agree, except that I don't trust the people who are appointed to vote
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, trans-, yeah.  To go from, from eighths to sixteenths to, uh,
0 is that a lot of our stuff is already changed that we haven't, I don't know,
0 be able to do his job.
0 know, hundreds of people work for T I.
1 time and they dress up like when customers are coming in,
1 A:  # So # there's a good combination in the hallways all the time, you know
0 B:  # Yeah.  #
0 A:  # And # she finally learned that you just can not do this, you know.  So
0 A:  Right. 
1 noticeable, {muffled like she was moving the phone} uh, from the outside, but,
0 B:  I, I find him such an embarrassment. 
0 A:  Yeah, I was, I had a pretty neat job, I got to meet all the big wigs, used
0 that than I am just about anything else.
0 in,
0 A:  Yeah, we-, it was an interesting day, the other day.  Uh, I think it was,
0 opening, opening up over major metropolitan areas, now that's uh, that's,
0 B:  Uh-huh, yeah, well sometimes I'm home and sometimes I'm not, but if I am
1 B:  #And they can stand on# their heads if they want too,
0 A:  Whatever, I, I don't want to make, I read it somewhere, though it's not my
0 B:  Yeah, well it's, it's so interesting, I ju-, I just don't think Mexico's
0 apartment houses that would have eight or ten or twelve people living in them,
0 B:  #they# have, uh, they have a speech signal and what, and what is said. 
0 A:  Yeah, or fuel injected, and so there's,
0 A:  I don't think I'd know where to start with a diesel. 
1 there in the front.  And I said well where are the other three. 
0 ninety, uh, Chevy Blazer now and it's got one, uh, belt on it a serpentine
0 them breaks,
0 B:  And especially since he's got inside Iraq for using, you know, chemical
0 dollar fifty a gallon and I'm not going to bring them back down to, you know,
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  You know, I just feel like maybe we went in to be policeman and I'm not
0 and he did pull out before it got any further than that where,
1 @@A:  I think this is the first time that I haven't been cut off by the
1 A:  Usually I can talk all day but this is something to me that's sad
1 B:  Uh, that would have to be mine.  I hate exercising, it's so boring.
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  It's just below Hot Springs.
0 their literature.
1 B:  #That's right, it's all their fault.#
0 they, they were probably much more, is much more necessary for them than for
0 A:  Uh-huh, I saw that, I saw that the other day.  I don-, don't drink soda
1 the spur of the moment and bought a tent.
0 A:  Now, now we're, we're in Texas now and you're in Texas, right. 
0 [laughter].
0 A:  Oh, are you? Where did you live? 
0 A:  That's neat, so you kind of, uh, uh, an everyday camper [laughter]. 
0 A:  A full time camper. 
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 B:  Yeah, uh-huh. 
1 B:  Yeah, I love watching that.  Then I like watching their bloopers too, you
0 match stem. 
0 B:  Wow. 
1 A:  Yeah, his age is about to catch up with him though. 
0 A:  Yes he was, I believe that's right at one point in time.  Ye-, but he's a
1 A:  As the players get older, get slower. 
0 A:  Oh yes, # very much so. #
0 B:  I think tha-, so they want to, you know try an-, I think they're trying, I
0 you know, those people who need it for welfare and so forth, who really need
0 really could be changed that aren't, you know, that, that aren't.  And tax is
0 B:  #[Door].#
0 B:  So it becomes, uh, a general battle of the w-, sort of the election of the
0 B:  Yes, well, yeah, she's not entirely sales, so it isn't, it isn't as
0 have, as I really wanted to.
0 B:  Yeah.  The,
1 B:  kind of hard to notice that Dad isn't around, 
0 [laughter].
0 A:  was able to, you know,  
0 B:  Yeah.  I, uh, 
1 don't like mandatory anything.
0 you're going to go to our schools and do all of this, speak our language. 
0 A:  That's exactly right and that is the wrong message. 
1 A:  # There you go.  #
0 behind this whole story, you know, that, that was written up in the paper
1 here in upstate New York, and it's not too much different so,
0 do any good but, huh,
0 B:  # and, # um,
1 A:  What to latch on to. 
0 telling a lot of truth, because they were there reporting firsthand, but in
1 =============================================================================
0 cream sauce with it and you pour it over rice,
1 moved down here. 
0 A:  I think, we're just thinking of having, a, uh, dinner party.  We went to
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
0 A:  Oh, gosh, so do you,
1 and it, it was just so much cooking, I couldn't, I don't like to cook. 
1 my dad like blew up, you know [laughter]. 
0 everybody I talked to is from. 
0 A:  Yeah, yeah. 
0 A:  Right, but I think I would have had to work. 
0 don't know, I think I would just go nuts sitting at home all day long. 
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  but it's not a, it's not the other kind, you know. 
0 smell it.
1 what,
0 A:  Oh. 
1 A:  Okay [laughter] he did really decide to go?
1 [laughter]. 
0 A:  -- uh, the level of income of lot of the students and their attitudes was
0 A:  This is very, very,
0 school.  He's a classical guitarist --
0 B:  -- so he's double majoring. 
0 B:  It's probably costing you a fortune. 
1 A:  Oh it is,
0 B:  Th-, um,
0 )) I for years just car,
0 B:  Yeah, my parents did a lot of that. 
1 lasts along time. 
1 A:  It, [laughter] does for ever. 
1 A:  And then when you get through with your own you've got grandchildren, so
1 [laughter]. 
0 you know, every once in a while they may have some kind of, um, personal
0 of thing I guess.
0 um, typically subsidized by, uh, large companies --
1 somebody there.  Everybody I knew was going to be at the wedding so
1 the Yellow Pages and,
0 B:  Yeah.  Yeah, it gets to be kind of expensive and I think, you know, some of
1 their kids they're back at work the next week [laughter]. 
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 him up every Saturday,
1 A:  Well, I have a bicycle [laughter] and that scares me too to tell you the
0 A:  But yet they were paid for it too.
1 A:  sounds like I'm on a soapbox [laughter].
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  They never do. 
0 A:  # Uh-huh, uh-huh.  #
0 where you didn't use to hear that. 
0 B:  And I thought we might be seeing things that, oh, you know, had come down
0 like sauerkraut soup or minestrone, depending upon what the menu theme is. 
0 me a really good recipe for ham loaf that, it's something you can make up ahead
0 B:  -- put you out on the street and let you fend for yourself. 
0 B:  # I mean, # you know, why do I need my eyes checked, well,
0 lot. 
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 B:  {Very faint} Uh-huh.  
0 B:  But not cats. 
0 all the time, and I hated it because I had to carry everything upstairs and,
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 jumped out of the, um, gosh, what do you call it, fish tank.  And fried
0 the attraction, I mean, they're, you know, they're pretty and everything but
1 A:  and, uh, you know, used to drop mice in (( )) this is not, these aren't
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Yeah, I, sort of weird for me to have had one too but there, it was a
0 A:  we were wondering if they, uh, they had any special law for the horses in
0 B:  #Uh-huh.# 
1 are going to charge you interest, ((and stuff)), of course, she ter-, tore it up.
1 That's how you got on to it to start with, you know, what is the matter with this
0 B:  #you know,# ((going in)) one big swoop, save up and then buy it.
0 A:  # we # have something here,
0 B:  # Uh-huh, uh-huh.  #
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Well, they use slab foundations or do they use rock foundations or
0 uh, I don't, I haven't been that close to it in the newer homes.
0 B:  Well, I would imagine all you need is just air-conditioning. 
0 A:  # don't # want it. 
0 B:  Well, I don't mind electric heating and them, like it's okay, I mean, I, I
0 just absolute think a gas stove's the best that money can buy. 
0 B:  # Uh-huh, uh-huh.  #
0 @B:  Well, let's see, what kind of hobbies do I have? I guess, uh, I, it's more
1 know, around with my hands and things like that I leave that more up to my Mom
1 A:  Uh, I saw Seven Eleven that was hiring. 
0 A:  And maybe I'll wet a fly line this year and do some camping if I don't get
0 A:  Ha, how about we end this? 
0 the, they came along and, uh, additional expenses, sitting came into every
0 that's twenty minutes away from the kids or however long, you know, you're out
1 went before spur of the moment that might be nice but casual, um, sometimes
0 what we would call a stall of flat concrete place with little posts and
0 little spot, ((though)) the farmers bring their stuff down and have a farmers
0 students there.  And I feel like that now if I went, if I had gone to a small
0 since we seemed to know everyone on campus,
0 A:  Uh-huh, exactly.  That's, that's one important thing that I think about
1 A:  To my, my priority was just being as worldly as I could possibly be
1 kind of interesting, though. 
1 B:  Well, you know, they're always there for you and they don't talk back to
1 a wimp and,
0 B:  That will help.  Well,
0 would happen [laughter] and I would get this, this kind of a call [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 [breathing].
0 A:  yeah.  The backyard, it's really big, too, for him to run in and stuff.
1 a good home.  I think that's what really bothers me the most about it
1 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 the Ranger baseball player that used to be here.
0 anything from another cat, if they get in a fight it automatically, like, they
0 A:  -- so, we did some research, and I knew the land.  There's a lot of ledge
1 B:  My spinach [laughter]. 
0 A:  But when I, before I got married, you know, I was working so I, uh,
1 rid of them, but [breathing] no, I folded it up neatly and put it away
1 time,
1 A:  # but # my ironing board is part of my decor so,
0 B:  No.  I've been thinking about putting the ironing board in the closet,
1 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  Uh. 
1 what I do and they just go, oh, how do you do that?
0 A:  So that's a very regular use of it that she has. 
0 school down in Austin. 
0 B:  A hundred?
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
1 B:  You can only tell that to somebody who understands binary. 
0 A:  -- patrol the whole thing.  And he's, you know --
0 A:  Uh-huh {very faint}.
0 scared of jail time anymore because they're in and out so quickly.
0 A:  That's right.
0 we'd have been a lot better off, our children would have been a l-, a lot
0 and --
0 B:  Um, and I tend to like instrumental better, because there isn't that
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 it, because some of it is just really awful,
0 B:  I don't, I don't know that you could require everyone to,  
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  could be helped. 
1 A:  That's the last thing you want,  
0 A:  # because # you sound like you're, I-, let me tell you just a little bit
0 A:  And I thought well, if I had, uh, a nic-, a nice little, um, tape recorder,
0 A:  And then on the other side, when I, when I, uh, I loa-, loaned it to my
0 B:  # and # we just want you to do your days work,
1 B:  -- Tex-Mex, not real Mexican food,
1 A:  -- and I've been talking about it ever [laughter] ever since,
0 A:  -- uh, in this particular French restaurant was our problem to be going
0 A:  # [Throat_clearing].  #
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
1 A:  Now, that's something I may not try [laughter]. 
0 A:  I know what you mean.  I like some ambiance, and I like good food.  I don't
1 A:  Right, uh-huh.  I don't care to go to a place just for the price of it
1 A:  -- with high prices and seven courses isn't what I usually look for
1 background}.
0 {pause} uh, seafood shacks, we've called them. 
0 A:  We went to Gal-,
0 then there's a place up the pass, up in the mountains that we pretty reliably
0 B:  I think it's as much the, the trip to the mountains as it is the breakfast
0 turned out to be an extremely good movie.
0 A:  -- you don't have to pick Democratic or Republican, you can pick anything
0 congress.  How do we get some of these guys that have been in there for so
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 is still not as much as you think in all kinds of issues really.
0 registration. 
1 A:  Um, not really, not really.  I've, uh,
1 it took talent [laughter].
1 B:  No exactly.  You know, is it going to be picked up by a symphony, you
1 well, we-, we've done nothing but, but prove our age today.
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Oh, okay.  White zinfandels are not a big favorite of mine. 
0 B:  And I have friend who has a vineyard.  Actually it's in New Mexico near La
1 years, you get to where you can actually [laughter] draw pretty well.
1 painting stuff and the wine cellars. 
1 Course they kicked him right out [laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter]  And he probably didn't like that. 
1 I'm not a native Texan, but I love Texas.  So, I wasn't happy till I got back
1 A:  What life would have been like if you had not been born. 
0 A:  I haven't seen of that, was it any good?
1 B:  It didn't do anything for me. 
0 B:  It's just to get, uh, motiv-, motivated again, and what happened about
0 A:  Ooh.
0 B:  Yeah, it sure is.  It sure is.  How about you?  Do you exercise on a
0 having to work some real late hours to get caught with my work after I got out
1 B:  And, I, I was, I would go faithfully, and then I missed once.
0 this session is about to run out.  Now I signed up for a different one now
0 tennis lessons, and so I haven't had that extra motivation, of, of us forcing
0 B:  [Noise] And, it's a daily thing for her.  So, it, you know, and it's so
1 A:  Well, I'm too tired, or I have a headache or,
0 now that I can just kill two nights, and --
0 B:  In the front end, the wafer fab. 
0 A:  Uh, mostly the offshore assembly sites. 
1 B:  Were you happy with your tax return this year?
0 A:  Oh, okay.  So you do get some credit, but not the whole thing. 
0 A:  -- uh, I don't believe it, it's worse. 
1 A:  And I seem to have more of that every year. 
1 A:  Oh, you know, you just got married. 
1 B:  Oh really. 
1 B:  Oh, man. 
0 A:  -- in the system that we've got that, you know, trying to convert over, and
1 know, anybody caught talking in the English, you know,
0 know, between here and El Paso's, what, five hundred miles, but it's almost
0 thinking that way. 
1 problems are really interesting [laughter]. 
0 A:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  They had something we wanted. 
1 B:  Yeah, that's true.  He with the most toys [laughter].  I guess. 
1 seat, wanting to tell the people what to do next. 
0 intake of breath}, and everybody does it.  It's like the whole theatre, you
1 didn't bother me.  And you know it did [laughter]. 
0 was joking with me about how I wasn't going to watch half of it, I was going
1 breath}, and my boyfriend jumped.
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
1 A:  Yeah, okay, that's, uh, 
1 which, um, I think kind of defeats,
1 B:  Right [laughter].  Well, I've got four hundred and fifty records, and it's
0 A:  And, um, the other is, some of the stuff that, um, I've got a, and I'll
1 A:  Um?
1 uh, of him and Bing Crosby doing PEACE ON EARTH, uh, LITTLE DRUMMER BOY.
1 A:  people out on music that one usually gets them [laughter].
1 B:  And now it all seems for naught, you know?  You can get his old stuff on C
1 singles.
1 B:  Oh, I ca-, I have like, uh, twenty-five, and I think I'm doing real
0 listened to that song a million times, okay?
0 was like, no, I think it's, you're just weird.  But have you ever, I mean, I,
1 it's like,
1 other combination there is.
1 B:  [Laughter]  So you don't have much choice there. 
0 and any food that is still good, bring it in and they brought it down to the
0 A:  # what # the regular things you, fertilizers and things you buy.  So, in,
0 B:  Oh. 
0 A:  Okay, so, uh, seeing we're both from different parts of the country, um, I
1 B:  So, not quite fourteen.  The, uh, I think we are seeing lots and lots of,
1 B:  -- and the ones that are having them earlier they're having them a lot
1 earlier [laughter] like eleven [laughter] or ten [laughter]. 
0 B:  -- but now that's not so, you know, if there, those parts of the country
0 farmers so you had a lot of children they kind of, money didn't seem to be
0 being so crowded.  That seems like, just because you don't have a place to put
1 A:  Well, we certainly hope not. 
1 B:  On an island so far away there's no chance they can ever get off
0 B:  -- I mean, that's happened --
0 A:  -- some part of whatever they're accused of. 
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 B:  Well, Jean, we seem to be of the same opinions here. 
0 A:  -- you know, what they're, what they'd been guilty of, and a lot of
0 A:  Uh-huh, uh-huh. 
1 discussing. 
0 of, uh, tiny, tiny pebbles.  You know, really small, you know.  But this was,
0 ten years, and, you know, I've got everything just exactly like I want it. 
0 B:  Is that right. 
0 B:  Right, right, right. 
0 A:  Uh, I had to go up to T I on business --
0 B:  Okay, I know where that is. 
0 all honesty, you haven't seen the hottest of summers if you've only been here
0 B:  Yep.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Oh.  Yep, yep.
1 A:  And I'm always, meaning?  There's wor-, well, you know,
0 B:  and, uh, you get the latest news and everything.  It's, uh, it's sort of
1 students.
1 B:  No. 
1 A:  But anyway, I'm, I'm thinking of the easy way, rather than,
1 as good as we remembered.
0 A:  # Oh, I haven't heard # --
0 enjoy. 
1 the things [laughter], 
0 B:  Wow!
0 B:  Oh, my word. 
0 care what job you're in, you know, what social service type job.  I'm a
1 you, I spent all day down at the courthouse --
0 couldn't. 
0 B:  Yes, same, with, I'm a teacher, and, and we do too [beep]. 
0 jail, and spent two or three years there. 
0 contributing to it through drugs or alcohol. 
0 B:  Yeah, they, they, I think the way they figured out with us is basically
0 B:  Right.  Yeah there are requirements, matter of fact, I think, levied upon
0 B:  Yeah, I know what you mean.
1 A:  But the thing is, I always carry it with my checkbook.  
1 away,
0 amount it was like a thirty dollar interest charge.
0 A:  So it wouldn't even pay me to get it, even if it was, you know.
0 they're selling, a record or something like that.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Most of us are so sheltered, you know. 
1 was probably wetter than I have been in some time. 
0 A:  Huh [laughter]. 
1 A:  We've had all the rain that they should've had out in California. 
0 A:  I, when I lived in Laura, which is about sixty miles south of where I'm
0 melted off.  And that's the,
0 seventy-eight, and it was a new development that didn't have any trees yet.  So
0 had a, uh, we had a mild winter.  As I say, the previous year, we had three or
0 B:  How long have you been back in Maryland, from Texas?
1 A:  I tell you, it spoils you rotten to work there.  You --
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
1 and be able to get into your car and touch the,
0 A:  Uh-huh, uh-huh. 
1 out of money.
0 B:  Did you?
1 A:  Yeah [laughter]. 
0 they were developing the prototype for the, uh, that fighter. 
1 B:  Yeah, exactly,
1 A:  -- it upset the neighbors in the apartment complex so I disabled it
0 A:  Oh, certainly.  Yeah, depending on the crime.  I think I discussed that at,
1 at another time [laughter].
1 B:  That's true,
0 B:  Only because there have been ones sent away that didn't do it.  But I know
1 B:  Yeah, that's pretty minor, when I think that some people give their lives
0 financial bind.
0 B:  Because she remembers the old stuff. 
0 [sigh] she was still household independent.  She was independent in the
1 she's seventy-nine this year, uh, is living independently.  And she drives
1 B:  They've got nothing.  Or they get on the telephone all day long. 
0 in a home to where it's regulated?
0 [/child].
1 involved with drugs,
0 dollars an hour or whatever, when I can make four hundred dollars a day
0 amounts, thousand and millions and millions of dollars are getting spent, you
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Well,
1 A:  Oh, how funny. 
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  So [laughter], 
0 A:  And, and, uh, I know when we went to London, it was really funny.  Uh,
1 A:  Because they ask me, why are there two bridges going into Dallas?
0 A:  Oh, do they?
1 it.  She, she doesn't like going to movie theaters because usually they're
0 A:  # Okay, yeah.  #
0 A:  Right. 
0 A:  # About eight years.  #
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  Well we --
0 A:  # I guess so.  #
0 lower.  There are many, many houses ju-, for sale just by the regular route. 
0 A:  Nope. 
0 A:  -- because,
0 heard them tell other people was always right. 
1 A:  And so I respect, they seem to actually have mechanics there. 
0 of yourself attitude.
0 B:  And, uh,
1 A:  Yeah. 
0 know, the products that you can get.  And if you go out to dinner, there's
0 B:  # you # know, animal fat to cook with. 
0 B:  So, but, so that's, that we don't really eat out too much. 
0 A:  Do you think?
0 A:  We, we throw more of it off --
1 wasn't easy to give up [laughter],
1 B:  -- maybe they're afraid [laughter] that people are going to,
1 with good intentions,
1 feel like you've eaten too much. 
0 B:  # Yeah.  #
0 A:  # but # you don't feel stuffed and miserable. 
0 in two hundred miles.  But I s-,
0 --
1 A:  Yeah, I'm afraid so,
0 A:  So, well, I hope you have good luck getting yours fixed. 
0 A:  FLATLINERS?
0 A:  And they tried some, uh, tried some drugs, and then all of a sudden that
0 A:  # uh, # movies.  MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS,
1 A:  Have you seen that one?
0 say it's, they didn't like it.
0 B:  Oh, yeah. 
0 it. 
1 A:  Yeah. 
1 B:  Oh, my you are ambitious [laughter].
0 B:  Right.
1 A:  -- or even walk.
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  #Oh, very, very comfortable# then.  Right.
0 B:  # you # know, that's just taken out of our paychecks every week.  And then
0 we have a, a fourth sort of C D type arrangement, [noise]  uh, where, you know,
0 B:  And that's my philosophy.  And, uh, sometimes, I, I, you know, I think that
0 over the country, but they allow you to put into a, a certain fund --
0 and so do we.
1 A:  # uh, # what's his name?
1 B:  the Forty-niners, do you? [/printer]. 
1 I think I like,
1 A:  Yeah?
1 B:  # a # lot of folks from Texas, uh, on this thing.  And so it's, it's, it's,
1 B:  Oh, yeah, indeed.  Definitely. 
1 B:  Should have left in seventy-two but,
1 A:  Oh, yeah.  Definitely. 
0 A:  Okay.
0 which is --
0 A:  Right.  The problem,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  #I haven't had to# put any tires on it.  And they're, they're still,
0 B:  Yeah so, 
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 you may have it at a summer home or somewhere else.  And y-, just because you
0 really know, that's why I think that maybe i-, if not, maybe not just having
0 B:  I just think it should be harder for, for a criminal to get hold of them.
0 A:  Yeah, well, I think, you know, maybe some kind of con-, some ki-, I think
0 A:  I don't see, I don't see what the difference is myself.  You know, getting
0 out there on everybody.  Whether we, we believe it or not, they know
0 B:  -- #also.# 
0 A:  # doing # it all, you know.  [laughter]  So,
0 B:  Pardon me.  Uh, yes. 
0 came out with an album. 
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 B:  -- or weeklies?
0 B:  You, so you like some of these late shows?
1 people now, there are so many, uh, [sigh]  everybody has V C R's and rents so
0 A:  So, uh, in fact, uh, our Oldsmobile is a, is a like an old Delta
0 B:  Well, we've always had, uh, Fords.
1 B:  Uh, mostly because my wife's stepfather works at a Ford dealership
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 families, uh, and they still want kind of a sports car.  They've been, uh, a
1 A:  and usually they're in like black,
0 cool --
1 a time,
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 A:  the, uh, the standard shift.  I fact, I, I remember once we, uh, we, uh,
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  Oh, well.  Well, I guess that's, I guess that's about all I've got to say,
0 @@A:  Oh, well.  Well, Bill it's been nice talking to you.
1 interesting.  And I, uh, of course, I don't ever get around to reading them
1 A:  Oh, okay, yeah.  He, um, I must have like fifty or sixty books by him
0 A:  Yeah. 
0 B:  But I, I was, uh, I'm not from here.  I'm originally from Ohio, so I've
0 B:  -- we used to always go to their games, and it was kind of fun.  It's
0 B:  # Yes, #
0 A:  # it's # actu-, it actually funny that, um, I live just outside of
1 A:  H-, hop on the Interstate, and the stadium's right off the Interstate
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 years, you know, he knows all there is to know about it.
1 B:  quoting those guys and,
0 experts can be.
1 A:  # [Children] when we moved # here.  And, um, it's getting to be too much
1 [laughter]. 
0 A:  That's it. 
0 A:  Yeah. 
0 B:  # have room to put it.  #
1 A:  yeah, you have more c-, control over it [laughter]. 
0 B:  But I'll probably keep it, keep it a while. 
1 the other mothers here, on my street that don't work, I mean my house is just,
0 me we could get, you know, a four bedroom house in the price range that we want
1 in that area.  She said, You're not going to like it as much as this one
1 A:  I'm going to.  I'm going to tell her, you know, when I have the time
1 [laughter], 
0 B:  And, uh, this was, uh, a f-, a for-, foreclosure. 
1 I can.
0 A:  Right.  Uh, do, do you think the benefits package is fair?
0 A:  # yeah.  #
0 A:  But there's so many people that are so senior and have so much time off, so
0 much vacation time coming, that you will find virtually no one in the plant. 
1 And, uh, write to them all and tell them that they've got an opportunity
1 why I'm not a farmer when I garden though,
0 people from Texas A and M, I don't know, maybe you've heard of A and M down
0 eating pecans though [noise].  Pecans are probably not taken from Virginia,
0 B:  Oh, uh-huh. 
1 A:  Tornados, uh, which is not the right subject,
0 A:  That, that is a key thing for shade --
0 math, uh, Speak and Math, uh, devices.  They, they have had Speak and Spell and
0 Hum throughout the recording in the tape itself.  Speaker B breaths heavy
0 A:  #or, uh,# obviously.  So, but, uh,
1 B:  Yeah.  It sounded you were calling from around the world somewhere
0 school.  They're, they go on the unemployment list before we have turn around. 
0 go on.  And they go to college, etcetera.
0 B:  Well, it seems to me that kids that a-, get out of high school that parents
0 B:  # so # it, it really and there is, there are a lot of Mexican people here
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  Right,
0 A:  Right. 
0 A:  Up in the Gaithersburg area. 
0 B:  I started when I was in college.  You know, they always offer credit cards
0 balance on.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 at Christmas.  Then they usually go, then they usually get run up pretty
1 B:  So I thought, man, I don't know if I trust this or not [laughter].
1 B:  It's like, let's see if we can get her to run up her bills [laughter].
1 B:  that's scary.
1 seemed like I was never paying the balance off,
1 B:  Holy cow!
0 A:  #And,#
1 A:  That's true.
1 B:  I'll try to remember that one.
0 A:  Oh, it's not bad at all.  It's, it's a beautiful drive. 
0 A:  # and # the bay is circulating over your head, and you,
0 B:  That's really wild. 
1 and, you know, depending on where it is. 
0 B:  Down by Big Bend?
0 A:  I highly, I highly recommend that, in fact I guess they're bringing that
0 probably more of a guy's movie than a --
1 A:  Yeah, that's what we,
0 that you --
1 or see it by myself at night [laughter].
0 A:  I, just so happen, I guess we just see those, but my wife actually talked
1 first place, trying to pass him off at age forty just was almost more,
1 B:  Don't waste your, even at a dollar movie that one would have been bad.  Oh,
0 A:  -- go see movies because just like Robert Redford was in HAVANA --
0 B:  Yeah, he is good.  I really, I really did like that movie.  I'm a fan of
1 A:  Because, because I mean, what he did was so corny. 
0 B:  I loved it, but most people that I knew didn't like it. 
0 it looked like it was going to be a funny movie.
0 have seen twice.  I went back to see it.
0 A:  or something like that. 
0 movies than I have. 
0 B:  Um,
1 Usually I can talk for hours on most of the subjects ((they pick)).
0 @B:  Okay, our topic for today is invasion of privacy.  So, I got a good one. 
0 A:  Uh, shut my other radio off here [/noise]. 
1 A:  Oh, yeah, that's, that's a good one too.  Yeah,
0 B:  Well, um, I work in the computer science center and so we hear a lot about
0 talk show person.  And there was,
0 w-, you know, what specific things you, you did have to put down.
0 you know, but he said just put N A and he said usually you'll get approved
1 anyway because they just want your money [laughter], they want your card.
0 yourself and there it is.  That's all they really care about. 
0 B:  Oh, I know that there's several people I've talked to that really have a
1 A:  # [Laughter].  #
0 B:  # [Laughter]  # (( )), you know, you just kind of,
0 A:  Right. 
0 A:  # have # everyone, uh, take the test right away and, uh, and hopefully,
1 haven't thought about any of this. 
0 the country.
0 A:  # balancing # the budget. 
0 A:  Oh, my. 
1 B:  Well [laughter],  I, I hope,
0 B:  # is # the one that, uh, limits the amount that, uh, real estate taxes can
1 A:  And I don't think it's working that way, Kathleen [laughter]. 
0 government purchasing could be rationalized where, uh, renting of space could
1 A:  I'm surprised the feasibility study could be done for that [laughter]. 
0 A:  # and # borrowing and I started thinking, now wait a minute.  They're in
0 B:  # wants to # throw out his own rascal. 
0 B:  Oh. 
0 cities it's very expensive. 
0 B:  I know my daughter came home the other night and, uh, she was all excited
1 local recycling center was. 
0 B:  And you just eat when you have something to eat. 
1 A:  Let's see what else they are doing, uh, jeez, I'm all out of recycling
0 A:  Yeah, yeah.  That, that freaked me out when it first did that.  I thought
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 A:  So, that gives you kind of an incentive. 
0 B:  I remember doing that when I was a kid. 
0 B:  It's, uh, it's nice, because you know, if you talk to people who grew up
0 B:  # Yeah.  #
0 you know, everyone and then,
0 A:  Or, or, [laughter],  I don't know because then that's where the insurance
0 company, then if people weren't having to spend these huge amounts of money on
0 A:  I mean, if I can't afford to have some kind of volun-, optional operation
1 not a conservative in his fifties has no brain.  It was something like that
0 overcrowding in prisons, uh, just,
0 A:  # in # order to put more people in, into the jails. 
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, and there's, uh, there's a lot of people here in Baltimore
0 B:  # Uh-huh [baby].  #
0 A:  Yeah. 
0 B:  And, and that way we can be sure, you know, we can find out the truth, we
0 around but as I said, my money's tight,
0 B:  there's no charge for it.  
1 huh-uh, not me.
0 card unless I really, I'll take write them le-, uh, check for it.
1 A:   Well, you're, you are so far ahead of me.  
0 whatnot, and uh, ever since that, it's just been real difficult. 
1 A:   I make myself do it and if I do it, okay, I don't love it,
0 B:   Uh-huh.  
0 B:   Next door, we've got an Austin stone.  Across the street,
0 B:  Yeah.
0 young.  You absorb just about everything that they can throw at you.
0 they used to be years ago or is it just a --
0 the old ones and just files them and --
1 something, 
0 A:  That's true.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  I mean, if you can eliminate any, you're doing,
0 hopefully you can show enough weakness, uh, from the, the, the gun control
0 murders, you know, ideas like that [lipsmack].
0 you have to wait seven days, probably less, because if you have a clean
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 over dinner [laughter].
0 knowledgeable. 
0 B:  # than, # you know, but, that's only in a real specialized area. 
1 A:  # to, # yes, to,
1 A:  Just terrible job. 
0 ============================================================================
0 uh, computers, a secretary to take messages for us or type, uh, letters,
1 whatever, here. 
0 B:   Yeah, it can be a pain.  Uh, basically, uh, I work on a
0 B:  uh, and sometimes longer if you had adverse wind.  And then
0 B:   Uh-huh.
1 got a, uh, mountain bike, 
0 B:   Uh, but, you know, up here [laughter], it's only stopped
0 A:   All right.  Take care.  
0 B:  # as a general # rule, I, I don't know why this is but I suspect it's
0 differences or anything and I just, there are differences, whether we like it
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, and I don't think in my lifetime, I'll see a woman president,
0 A:  No, I, I,
0 A:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.  Now he's still the governor, Cuomo is?
1 B:  I guess New York is still, still behind the times, not like,
0 square footage,
0 B:  # and, # uh, the neighbors house next door to us sold for seventy-five,
1 B:  # kind # of secluded, you know,
0 A:  Yeah, really. 
0 stuff and it actually fit, you know. 
0 A:  # because, # up to this point I was in school so I'd go home every summer
0 B:  And it's nice too. 
0 B:  Well, yeah and, um, actually I'm very interested.  We are, my husband and 
0 and,
0 A:  Uh, with seeing how many kids come home to empty houses,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Yeah. Oh no, that for sure.
0 A:  Right.  Now would you continue, do you work now?
1 [noise] but yes I think so,
0 B:  Does he have a girlfriend?
1 B:  Well I hope so, I mean I look at these toys on T V and I just,
0 B:  Well I liked trolling the best. 
1 biggest grin on his face you've ever seen [laughter]. 
0 B:  Yeah. 
1 B:  [Laughter]  Relaxing too, huh?
0 I don't know if you would enjoy fishing because,
1 small [laughter]. 
0 B:  Yeah, yeah.  How long has it been since the first one?
0 B:  The vet called her, uh, a golden mix [laughter], 
0 B:  But she's, uh, she's that sort of strawberry blonde reddish color, you
0 A:  This, this friend of mine has, th-, well it's the same guy that was
1 B:  Sure.  I used to cycle around the block two or three [laughter]. 
1 A:  [Laughter]  Oh no. 
0 I don't, it seems to me like if, if they really wanted to get serious or, you
1 the, the landfills,
1 B:  I think that might give it a little added touch of something, I'm not sure
0 hunting trip and I was there with a couple of buddies and we had filled up a
1 been able to, to confess that to anyone and now I've gotten to confess it. 
1 did it but, you know [laughter]. 
0 B:  -- no one can live down there you know. 
0 that it would be a plus for them and more people would buy more of those
1 B:  Please do. 
0 B:  Yeah, I think, I think that you're right.  It would be the, pretty much the
1 anyone else's [laughter] who was,
0 B:  Yeah, they are, and, and it's really changing the social structure of
1 six or seven people and we were just sitting around drinking beer and the
0 A:  Right.  
0 liable.
0 and goes and shoots somebody I would really have the feeling that they're
0 on, on gun ownership, but I can't see a total ban on it at all.  Uh, because
1 A:  What are you going to do about that.  You got two hundred million guns here
1 line of defense [laughter].
0 B:  If I recall back in the sixties, we didn't tend to run in debt a lot of
0 twenty-five years ago Japan wasn't, uh, [noise] hello?
0 B:  # and # it appears that's the case.  Do you own any kind of foreign car?
0 A:  And that's probably got something to do with what you're saying about the
1 A:  It's, it's, it's easier to, to fight, I guess, when you can find them
0 damaging getting in, getting out, uh, making end runs, allowing more
0 A:  # Yeah {faint}. #
0 B:  # and # they did. 
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 B:  And, uh, when I got out of school I had to sort of teach myself everything
0 colleges it's not required to take computer courses if you're in, in, the
0 A:  And, uh, we were real happy with them, but all the ones that we ever had
0 [breathing] and quite frankly, we were afraid of the, of the G M small cars.
0 B:  Uh, but, uh, we went on a family trip to Massachusetts and there were five
0 A:  Yeah.  What, we, we sold or we, we traded in our Le Sabre for our Subaru.
1 mean I was growing up, I was taught when I was growing up, you know, that,
1 A:  [Laughter].  
0 right now.  And I think it's showing up in their automobiles.  Their
1 A:  Yes.  
0 a certain person at that dealer's place.
0 A:  I think, I agree.  But I think it ought to be expanded to include children.
0 B:  Yes, very true.  I, uh, I agree with you there.  Uh,
1 B:  Uh-huh {pause}. Yeah, exactly.  Well, anyhow I guess we both agree that,
0 do except quit smoking [laughter].  It's a,
0 B:  # Well, the, #
0 A:  What I think should happen is, uh, any violent crime with a weapon, with a,
0 sit there and I read the paper and I say, sh, you know,
0 do with, I think a lot of times with, uh, the type of sentence that's given.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  So, but since they've done that, since they've limited hunting,
0 B:  he really did enjoy it.  
0 B:  you know, you're not allowed to carry them loaded or anything like that.
1 A:  Okay, so I guess we kind of, we've solved that problem, right? [laughter].
1 crazy about guns myself, but being from hunting families I tolerate them
1 B:  Yeah, I, I seem to remember when I was young that was a problem [laughter].
0 A:  Or how you could afford it.  
0 A:  -- because you can flip through the used car manuals and they'll give you a
0 when I was in, in high school, uh, and it was a big car.  I mean it was like
0 B:  Yeah.  Well, everybody that I've talked to who's ever had a Honda --
0 B:  # Uh-huh.  #
1 A:  # so # I have to aim like forty-five degrees off to the,
0 and, and the T V is, um, they can get the camera's just at the time the people
1 you know,
0 B:  # [Laughter]  Yeah.  #
1 junk,
1 [laughter]. 
1 A:  So, uh, you don't see you, uh, taking up, you know, and charging,
1 A:  # [Laughter]  # okay, I've seen a golf club, that's funny. 
0 A:  Likewise, and, uh,
0 B:  Where they just, you know, go through the list, and whenever you pick up
1 A:  And so I just do not answer the phone call. 
0 B:  Right, I'm surprised they don't though.  Uh, I, but I'm sure if they did,
1 and things like that.
0 in there, uh, data that would prevent that person from getting a loan in the
0 convincing the authorities that he wasn't the, the party that was responsible
1 for failing to make child support payments [laughter]. 
0 A:  # that # many women work out of the home now. 
1 A:  That's the kind of, uh, what would it be, uh, uh, calming influence or
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  It's too bad.
0 A:  -- I mean, suddenly when you're free to go where you want to go, it's
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  We've, um, we've bought Pictionary,
1 A:  It really is,
1 A:  Yeah, and gosh, I hope you guys cool off down there.
0 few, but they were the oddity.  And,
0 there's a lot more than there used to be.  And see you never picture yourself
0 A:  Exactly. 
1 @A:  Uh, I don't have a family budget but we do have a budget already
0 when it's on sale, you know, and I, I don't go out of the way, but my fiancee,
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 out, whatever needs to be worked out. 
0 A:  Uh-huh.  And I know a, a lot of couples starting out, uh, I don't think
1 A:  Yeah, and they say oh, well, we have the money we might as well spend it
1 B:  We seem to agree on everything. 
1 A:  Yeah [laughter]. 
0 B:  # Shrubbery, that # were guaranteed and we had no problem with it. 
1 B:  Huh, so either you or your husband can be warm but not both [laughter]. 
1 A:  Yes [laughter]. 
1 A:  You're really divulging very personal information. 
0 B:  And, uh, it, if, uh, no matter what they do in the, the classroom, if
1 uh, you know, education's wasted on the youth anyway.  
1 program of some sort that would take care of that sort of thing, but.  
0 B:  uh, most teachers after they have taught for a very long, especially at
1 if it's socialist, or I don't care, 
0 A:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.
0 try to swim out.  You know, kind of like the Bermuda Triangle, we're just
0 B:  Yeah, were you at Baylor?
1 B:  No, no. 
0 I know we had, there's a lot of things we would have done if we'd stayed here. 
0 where did you learn to do that, and he says well I read it in a book. 
1 A:  Oh, wow [throat_clearing]. 
1 B:  Yeah, of course he's, he built the shelves in the, in the garage for me
1 B:  -- and, uh, I think if you didn't stop him, he'd still do it today
0 A:  It was kind of neat to see it finally all come together. 
0 much volunteer as far as separating, oh, paper and bottles, and, you know, cans
0 B:  I don't know what, are they, they're probably doing more than that up
0 have noticed on, uh, on Coke bottles and, and whatnot, we went, I've got some
0 A:  And I guess they can make a, a, you know, it's like working a part-time
0 B:  # it turns out that, uh, # on a, a Sunday morning after a Dallas Saturday
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  # Oh, for the steel belted,#
0 B:  Yeah. 
1 =========================================================================
1 y-, four years it starts needing it and people usually get around to it at five
0 years they, they redo their paint and I guess a lot of the, the drywall in
0 A:  Oh, okay, okay. 
0 A:  # Um.  #
0 A:  Now even with tape I think, I was just thinking of using the pads instead
1 the kitchen table [laughter]. 
1 country at the time, so I'm pretty sure I didn't.  Uh,
0 looking for someone whose face they think will, you know, want to hang
0 B:  -- and, a lot of, uh, arranging for activities, uh,
1 A:  Wow.  Sounds like you guys are, uh, your family's really into family. 
0 B:  # Yeah.  #
1 A:  # twenty-five # or thirty people. 
0 everybody has their own taste, but man the Mercedes are expensive.  My wife
0 B:  and the attitude of the service, of the dealership.
1 my attitude and it, it will never change about that place.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 and she spot checks people's trash.
0 and, and several of the surrounding states and probably yours too, of car
0 everything for safety or,
0 B:  Oh yeah, I, I agree.  Now that's another area we haven't even discussed and
0 of course, have it checked because it seems, uh, when I was a kid growing up
0 A:  I've never been to other parts of South America, but, uh, I have been to
0 some of those, uh, native,
0 his pocket and he said fifteen percent.  He said, you see that school over
1 percent so,
0 into our system --
1 B:  And in the short run probably [laughter], too. 
1 B:  No, not that I know of [laughter]. 
0 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 B:  No, that's true.  Course they have a requirement that, uh, that every
0 B:  I think so. 
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
1 B:  Off earlier.  But some of these guys just don't care,
0 circumstances where you hear about these people that have, you know, stolen
0 know, people are saying that because the, he knows, because the criminals know
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 know, like my, my child that, she want be an only child for long, but, you
0 child's day care person to yell at them and scream at them and say do this, do
0 B:  # [Laughter].  #
1 A:  Uh, spend a day and a lot of money [laughter]. 
1 to Disneyland about five times,
0 B:  # Oh.  [laughter].  #
0 A:  # you # know, uh, data base?
1 B:  Is that right. 
1 B:  Just walking that's all [laughter]. 
0 A:  you know, and so,
0 B:  and that is, that is really not, gun control is not the problem,
0 A:  Wow.  
0 B:  -- and they said, well, let's band the public telephones too because the
0 B:  seriously, and, 
0 gun shop and it never goes anywhere, it stays right there --
0 B:  so, I, uh,
0 B:  -- you know, you know, always getting, uh, belligerent comments like, you
0 B:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 B:  Right. 
0 A:  I, I, you know, it's, it's, I mean, I love what I do but I love my children
1 of two women, the secretary is a woman [laughter], 
0 A:  -- they need to see that instead of you just telling them, well, after you
0 A:  # in order # to get part of you, otherwise they grow up with parts of their
0 A:  Well, I, I, I come from kind of a biased opinion because I'm a, a therapist
0 businesses go through in terms of accidents,
1 much money if they fall face forward in their typewriter or something.  So,
1 B:  Yeah.  I know,
1 A:  -- give blood or something like that. 
0 A:  Oh,
0 A:  #Right.# 
0 B:  Oh, I know.  I'm the same way with G M.  I won't buy a G M car. 
0 B:  You're in Texas?
1 @A:  Okay, what are your suggestions in making a family reunion successful
1 A:  Well I, uh, when is your next one, uh, scheduled now. 
1 A:  Yes, well, and do you think you'll have a baby to take back with you
1 [laughter].
1 B:  But now I'm in to Lotus and word processing and I can hold my own with that
0 B:  And I think, you know, like I say, if you, if you don't do it, you r-,
0 B:  # [Laughter]  That disagrees.# 
0 telling the truth or not.
0 B:  -- for fear that they would, you know, I, I'd get that, but I think if, if
1 the conversation a little more interesting because,
0 B:  No.  I did years ago for seventeen years.  I worked, uh, in Fort Worth at
0 I.  I w-, I really enjoyed working there.  And, uh, but, you know, it wasn't to
0 were growing up, we didn't lock our house at night.  We just went to bed, you
0 B:  Wholly smokes.
0 A:  #Yeah.#  
0 A:  ((Strapped with everything.))
0 A:  #About# the only credit cards I have now are, are gas cards.
1 B:  #Yeah,# I know that feeling [laughter].
1 B:  Oh, really?
0 A:  Oh,
1 A:  # uh, # and not, not having that much fun [laughter].
0 B:  # [Cough].  #
0 A:  # I # enjoy catching it too.  Do you ever go out to the,
1 you,
1 [laughter], 
1 fairways sometimes just thinking about that and then, of course, I'll miss the
1 putt [laughter].
0 A:  They,
0 Kuwaiti young won't rebuild anything.  They won't work.
1 B:  We got a great topic [laughter]. 
1 A:  [Laughter]  I know.  I'm sitting here going oh, dear [laughter]. 
1 B:  Let you start [laughter], 
1 A:  Oh, you,
1 B:  None of the above [laughter]. 
0 B:  I think they are extremely well qualified. 
0 A:  # Yeah.  # Yeah, I mean, I, I suppose that, that it's difficult to really
1 A:  It's a, it's a rough [laughter], 
0 B:  At one time. 
1 that's what your going, that's what you'll always be. 
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  carrying our own prejudice [laughter]. 
1 A:  [Laughter]  Yeah.  Oh, gee. 
1 B:  -- weren't put down so badly [laughter]. 
0 A:  # uh, # I just sort of ignore the administrative,
1 A:  # part # of it since I didn't like it when, when I had to do it. 
0 B:  Hired new nurses and, uh, just really, just redid it, you know. 
0 B:  Uh, when you would walk in, the smell was just,
0 totally dependent,
0 B:  Oh, yeah. 
0 B:  # and # I think it's because they've gone since they were real little,
1 A:  Right. 
0 B:  That's true. 
1 what it's called, but they have a dish called, uh, ((B Bim Bap)), [laughter]. 
0 A:  # I, uh, haven't, #
0 don't know.  
0 incentive to get out of the drug trade.  And there was a lot of assassinations
0 B:  # Huh-uh.  #
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 B:  Could it possibly be because of the, the little third world countries, and
0 A:  Um, so it's, it's like really strange that we never pay that much
0 B:  # Gosh, # it gets to about seventies, high seventies and it gets very cold
0 A:  -- and, uh, there were still some paint brushes and bluebonnets down along
0 A:  # You know, it's# not sandy like most of the state is, so it doesn't absorb
0 different and it's much nicer.
0 B:  So, they, the people I know that are from there, uh, they always miss it
1 B:  Oh, gosh.  Well, I hope it moves up this way, but I'm sure it won't
1 will be a good topic for me in the class for along time [laughter]. 
0 of, of major stature on the scene of, like the great statesman of the past,
0 B:  Yes. 
1 A:  It's nice to not have a drip through from the roof, isn't it [laughter]. 
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].  Yes [laughter]. 
0 to, uh, take care of their, of a household, you know, like, uh, fixing
1 B:  And, uh, and, uh, help putty up the holes together and, and do things,
0 B:  You know, it really does.  You know, and people that have been to my house
0 B:  I enjoy that though. 
0 [Laughter].  Do you have any tips you could give me?
1 another bath on.
1 think [laughter]. 
1 A:  just trying to try and stay as firm as I can stay in my old age [laughter].
1 then I'll around a lot longer,
0 A:  And, uh, proved that ingestion of chlorine causes arteriosclerosis, which
0 B:  And he's, in fact, he's a, well, heart, too, he's, uh, he's done a lot of
0 research on like how your heart reacts to exercise.  [laughter].  Sorry, he
0 five to ten percent and all that kind of thing.  [laughter].  You know, they
0 B:  Um, apparently it's getting worse, I mean,
0 it is, that, when we police these companies, you know, they say, well, look,
1 there, will you give them to me.
1 them out late because they didn't pick them up,
0 A:  Yeah, probably. 
0 recycling is to make it more convenient for people I think.  And a community I
0 mean, I come from a family that's been recycling for thirty years and, uh, has
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 kind of stuff away, the E P A could give you a major fine. 
1 B:  Yeah. 
0 A:  Well,
0 dollars worth of taxpayers money and it's turning out to be a lot more than
1 B:  Uh, because if they win, they win big, and if they don't, who cares
1 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  Well, I don't know how we're going to bail them out because if we're
1 B:  Yep. 
1 prob-, as, as a hub of liberalism [laughter], 
0 which went a little bit too far.
1 A:  I noticed it on the weekends occasionally when I call,
0 that I'm in and out a lot because,
1 disappear but th-, you know, they're, they're on a hook usually,
0 B:  I don't know, I think I always run a little bit behind.  It takes me awhile
0 A:  Okay. 
1 bit. 
1 of our first fifteen years or eighteen years of being married nothing worked
1 [laughter]. 
1 course, is now devalued with the housing market, so, I don't know if we,
0 old now, um,
0 many unexpected things come up so often it seems with, we both have older cars
0 and something will come up and wind up having to spend a thousand dollars, you
0 A:  # for # many years. 
1 A:  where there's a will, there's a way, right? [Laughter]. 
1 in the back.
0 B:  Yeah, yeah, I think so.  Um, it's, it's, although it's funny, because I
0 just, I just had to discuss one of our machines because it's just too slow. 
0 available, and,
0 using COBAL rather than any of the newer languages,
0 a distributor, and you moved it from memory, and you had to know exactly where
1 with you on that. 
0 A:  I, I, I don't know, uh, I kn-, I'm familiar with some, some upbeat school
0 A:  Sounds like the way the federal and state system works now. 
0 B:  # So, # so what ended up happening was, was a, was a shift.  We went to
0 few years ago. 
0 there they tell me they, they, some states they pay, uh, in Germany or in, in
0 you have either one?
1 B:  So would I [laughter]. 
1 A:  It, well, it's always something that seems so odd to me [laughter] but, uh,
0 B:  # Oh.  #
1 them when they're fat and she cooks them for an hour with some ((fat backs)),
1 B:  Well, my mother doesn't think they have any flavor the way I cook them
1 B:  Oh, that's great, that's great. 
1 A:  Yeah. 
0 know, athletics and stuff like that,
0 B:  And at that point, did you almost say, gee, I going to have to get out of
0 A:  # start # getting back in the school. 
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
1 sled in other words. 
0 B:  Most of the name brand authors and so forth. 
0 A:  Huh.  So, how did you like Kokomo?
0 going on. 
0 B:  Of which euchre was one. 
1 don't believe in playing cards so, you could,
0 A:  # [Laughter].  #
1 B:  # but # it's okay to play dominos so you, forty-two is called Baptist
0 A:  That's funny.  Wow.  Do you play cards a lot or,
1 B:  No, it's too long ago,
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
1 B:  # Yeah.  #
0 B:  # Yeah.  #
0 B:  # and he's, you # know, got a second grade reading level and a fourth grade
0 A:  Huh. 
0 dad are at work,
0 B:  # but in Lubbock # we have a few that you can send your children to and
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 guess what I do now is I play softball,
1 the lawn mower around that's,
0 A:  Huh. 
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 you.
1 sure I don't have near the endurance that I did, [laughter].
1 A:  Oh, I still don't, but [laughter]. 
1 parenting?
0 while and they come back, and you got twenty and thirty year olds who are
0 years, uh,
1 B:  I'm not sure I understand the, I, I guess there's a, a, a reason for that,
1 was asking for it but him.
1 which didn't make any sense at all. 
1 A:  His lips are moving. 
0 B:  # Right.  #
0 and I, I look up at the clock and say, oh, my word, you know. 
0 like that.  Even if I'm, uh, doing something like an afghan, if I'm close to
0 B:  # Uh, #
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 Americans?
0 B:  [Throat_clearing].  
0 A:  The true source of the problem is, a, that we do spend too much,
0 A:  Uh, too few Americans are working. 
0 that or,
1 something new that they could tax. 
0 A:  And I think really if we got all those that are able-bodied into the work
0 B:  # the # federal legislatures too. 
0 the scenes either in the capacity of the lobbyist or in working within their
0 A:  Uh, it doesn't solve the ((nonelected)) bureauc-, bureaucrats either.
0 B:  Trying to get, the, um, politicians to actually truthfully report what they
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 cat just really doesn't care about the dog at all.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  Oh, gee, that is a big rabbit.   
0 B:  But he was a good guard.  
0 A:  But, but he's not much protection I would imagine.  
0 don't really have a tremendous education system because they don't have the
0 A:  And, uh, I was one of the home owners down there that got taxed to death,
0 anymore.  M-, our oldest boy goes to Lubbock High down here and they go to
0 A:  they're re-, uh, they really stress academics there.
1 B:  Yeah that would be quite a shock.
0 know, tag,
0 you're charging for,
0 in real bad shape about five years ago,
0 B:  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1 B:  You know, I just read about, here's another thing that you can buy
0 A:  I know it, and I haven't had to take any of those back, um.
0 B:  Oh, okay. 
0 A:  Oh, okay. 
0 A:  # Yeah.  #
0 get sick it's like, well, I can't afford to,
0 long you've been there.  I think you get like a week your first year, and then
0 mean, it's like,
1 I would have qualified.
1 stuff and it adds up.
1 little as possible, uh,
0 case there's an emergency or,
0 B:  something but other than that we don't use them anymore [laughter]
1 A:  Yeah.  
0 B:  [Laughter].  
0 B:  Why do they do that?  
0 A:  There's going to be that much more.  
0 money.
1 [\noise]  thousand, and mine's an eighty-eight and it's, it just turned over
0 A:  if you put them side by side,
0 A:  -- and I've never, I've never had trouble with it. 
0 B:  Yeah.
0 pretty sharp too,
0 we're not going to have any, soon,
0 A:  really, the best thing to do is to bring, 
0 A:  to make the world a better place, and it's kind of sad because,
0 the problem, than it is.
0 guess he's been there about six months,
0 trust that or not, I mean there are so many scams, 
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 afraid.  
0 B:  Okay.
0 A:  -- for me to be, you know, I feel very safe where I am, you know, instead
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  And I don't know I attributed I think, a lot of that to women working.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 a couple this year.  I want to see Nolan pitch one time,
0 B:  Yeah, it does.  Hopefully some of their players will come through and they
0 A:  -- and so hopefully he'll eventually put something together. 
0 B:  and it's a easy double play but,
0 B:  Yeah, I think Lou Pinella is doing a good job too,
1 B:  # He's, # he's, huh, he thinks he's an adult now but,
0 B:  # but, # uh, as a matter of fact, my son, uh, is camping now.  He camps
0 B:  # that we # didn't have set up.  I think it actually went into the tent
0 B:  But th-, uh, you know, it was, uh, it was a fun time and we, we've enjoyed
0 B:  # to # the, uh, where the dinosaur tracks are. 
0 A:  What are they?
1 animals anymore. 
0 was a little, uh, I got it so it wouldn't, wouldn't shed,
0 B:  That, yeah, that's, 
1 A:  #Clyde the iguana.#  
0 was a drummer,
1 house and, and he'd pick up his dish and throw it in the air [laughter].
0 and this f-, his roommate put him out one day and Dan didn't know it and it
1 be sure you left the doors open, you know, he didn't like to go anywhere else,
0 B:  Well see, I guess it's because you lived with, you know, him an,
1  A:  Well, what do your cats do besides sitting and purring and letting you
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 Chicken Cordon Bleu. 
0 sticks then.  And then I put a little, uh, bell pepper, a little yellow bell
1 B:  # That's neat.  #
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  Uh, ((I'd say)) probably stir fried beef. 
1 A:  No, I do that too. 
1 B:  I know I love deer steaks. 
0 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 confused, uh, by what it means to be a threat to the United States and so I'm
0 A:  And there are a lot of them, uh, scattered throughout the many, many
0 B:  Um, yeah, yeah.  
0 president but a different vice president. 
0 A:  Oh, oh yeah, I'm in Dallas, Texas. 
0 B:  Well, I have always believed in sharing.
0 equipment, [bird_squawk] or anything without some of their own personal input,
0 A:  Right, yeah, that's amazing.
1 B:  Well yeah, this is, uh, this is interesting, interesting topic.
1 B:  # I # just wrote Mobil Oil Corporation a letter as a matter of fact,
0 A:  And so I had to put in a new engine, that was, that's an experience when
0 replaced, that car ran hot.  Every summer, I mean, even though, yes, Texas is
0 A:  Uh-huh, I know that, uh, in, in the early seventies, uh, I think women
0 B:  Right it was more, it was more civil rights oriented,
1 except all of a sudden I went blank [laughter]. 
1 B:  # but in # terms of women,
1 A:  # [Laughter]  Yeah.  #
0 then by the time I got married, um,
0 A:  it's, it's just really not there anymore. 
0 A:  # I don't need to get married.  #
1 A:  # You # know, and so I feel like I'm old.  It's like I sing,
0 A:  Wow. 
0 A:  # Right.  #
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 science fiction.  I like, uh, Sagan, I re-, I read just about everything that
0 A:  So, I've just started intes-, in to him.  I haven't, uh, I've, uh, I think,
0 B:  And you can pick up any of his stuff and you can just sort of try it and if
0 for DUNE.  I read through it all, it was laborious, I, I,
0 reread it and I read the whole twelve hundred pages aloud to my son when he
0 A:  Huh, that's interesting. 
0 A:  Oh, so you have to, you're forced into it, no matter what [laughter]. 
0 @A:  Uh, [throat_clearing]  what, have you had any home repairs done lately on
1 me. 
0 B:  # Oh and do the water seal before.  #
0 piece of guttering material like a little trough,
0 A:  you can put that on with anything, whereas a lot of this other stuff you
1 can learn a lot by doing that.
0 A:  Yeah. 
0 B:  So they're little chibbles ((you know)),
0 the paper recycling, you know, the newspaper,
0 B:  # that # kind of thing,
0 A:  # conscious, # aren't you? [Laughter]. 
0 A:  Did you use diapers?
0 B:  You just say to yourself, well, this is not worth it to me to do such and
0 A:  well, I know to with disposable diapers though if you use cloth diapers
1 know, if my kids have got a cold, you know, I put them in bed with cloth
0 B:  # it # has been very, very bad,
0 A:  # uh, and a # parent can go and do her work and there is somebody there who
0 B:  # Sure.  #
0 B:  Well, I think I would in some ways have to decide how much personally, you
1 A:  # something like # that.  Well, it's been fun talking with you. 
0 chain, if I can use that word --
0 for them.
0 So, um, I can see where someone, you know, in a position like that, in a
0 B:  Oh, yeah. 
0 I continue to be without children.  I, it's just such a responsibility and,
1 B:  Yeah.  And it stays low a lot [laughter]. 
1 friends. 
0 A:  [Laughter]  That's like World War Three every minute [laughter].  I don't
1 A:  # have a # whole bunch [laughter]. 
1 but, uh,
0 values. 
1 B:  Are you D A D or something?
0 B:  No, I haven't been back in fi-, ten, fifteen years. 
1 you like your mother? You know? I said, yes. 
1 I don't know [laughter]. 
0 A:  # Huh-uh.  #
0 B:  But I don't really know.  I don't know what the laws are pertaining to
1 ((tramane)) poison [laughter]. 
1 [laughter],
0 A:  # um, # go to the August Moon which is down there it's a Chinese,
0 A:  Um. 
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  # they're real good.  #
0 how their french bread is and the butter and the desert I would be,
1 what's that [laughter].
1 the children or the adults are themselves [laughter]. 
1 was just terrible. 
1 B:  like when you're in a bad part of Italy or something. 
0 too, but more like go get it and carry it in cause we're too,
1 B:  No, except that this makes me fat.  No, I'm just kidding. 
0 ===========================================================================
0 electronic stores, it's a hobby store place,
0 B:  take your data files from one to the other,
0 A:  I'm wanting to go back to school and this time I'll try a lot harder.
0 a lot easier if I the,
1 B:  you, you suddenly discover that your educated when the students are
0 savings account like a family one. 
0 future for grants and loans and that kind of stuff because I don't, I just
0 B:  Right, right,
0 A:  # I # just try to estimate what I think it's going to come to and then,
0 purchased this then, you know at that time, because that information is not
1 B:  # Right.  #
1 A:  Right, that's true. 
0 or,
0 A:  Um, well, we also like to do is we like to cook out a lot even in the
0 serve them on a half shell with a little bit of, uh, stuffing.  What we like
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 size of a baked potato, put butter and salt on it garlic,
1 those Fren-, fancy french sauces.
0 marinade. 
0 A:  Two tablespoons,
1 B:  # year # long too. 
1 A:  Yeah [laughter]. 
0 B:  Don't laugh, but what makes a really elegant, um, just a side dish, and
0 riots,
0 A:  # Uh-huh, uh-huh.  #
1 B:  # Washington and, # uh, [laughter]  and what you saw is was what you got
0 A:  # to # try to keep all wash done and all the things done and, you know, and
0 B:  # That's right, that's right.  #
0 A:  # to go work was when they were # teenagers. 
0 A:  But, um, yeah, so that's what I'm going to be cooking, you know,
1 B:  He, he just, thro-, takes stuff he says, yeah about an ounce of this
1 B:  I think it's God's gift to cooking. 
1 elected to always bring cakes into work [laughter]. 
1 B:  # could # do anything with cakes so. 
0 A:  Well, yeah [laughter]. 
0 B:  [clicking] [music] Well, Kathleen, do you believe that there is a problem
1 at it a long time [laughter] but have been making the same mistakes for a long
0 college kid who might not be all that bright to begin with, was thrown into a
0 A:  much of anything and get significant feedback that would help the, the
0 B:  [noise].
0 B:  Sure.  Sure.  That's good as a, a, a teaching aid.  But more you see these
1 B:  And, you know, the whole electronic #classroom idea.#
0 B:  I see.
1 A:  [Laughter] You sound like one of my best friends, 
0 A:  Okay.  Is,
1 B:  Hey, try it out.   
0 B:  Uh, so [laughter], I was there during the sixties and I, that's, that's
0 A:  Cause I really can't, I guess I can't tell [laughter] but I, I enjoy
1 A:  Yeah, it really, 
0 B:  And get all the, yeah,  
0 A:  For a lot of things, you know,   
0 B:  Exactly.   
0 A:  So their going to bec-, 
0 of character.
1 B:  Didn't, didn't know if they had cable in Waco.  
0 B:  Well indeed, well that's,
1 A:  [Laughter] Really.   
0 A:  you know. 
0 A:  Yeah, yeah. 
0 B:  Well, I grew up in North Carolina, and it's,   
1 A:  Yeah, I've been sitting here alternately reading and watching television
1 far,
1 B:  # [Laughter]  That's funny.  #
1 A:  Yeah,
0 A:  # Oh not, no, #
1 that good this year.  Um, we're supposed to talk about television let's see
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 A:  Oh, okay. 
0 B:  Was what?
1 A:  That's okay,
1 thought, um, so I know,
0 A:  Uh, no, that was the other guy from C B S, oh,
0 A:  Yeah, they have one character on there they just call it Pat and they, you
1 don't know if it's a man or a woman [laughter]. 
1 says no I carry a fanny pack [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah it's weird [laughter]. 
0 B:  Uh?
1 sold his. 
1 A:  # you're # doing other things [laughter]. 
0 B:  # No.  #
1 A:  # somebody, # uh, to, you know, give me a hundred and fifty, um [laughter],
0 B:  And you ought to get your salary taxed once and if you're able to save some
0 A:  # a lot of # people can't afford that. 
0 hungry and, um, we have gotten, uh, uh, so out on a limb, in debt, not only,
0 B:  Um, in the Texas area?
0 B:  Is a lot of that going on?
0 A:  When we moved in the man that sold it to us had said that he remodeled it,
1 A:  And he rewired the house and it's shorting out here and there, and
1 so sorry,
0 and I heard all these, these drips, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip.
0 B:  Uh, the roof?
0 centralizing type of programs I have not seen one yet that, that, that I, I
0 I've got, uh, uh, prejudice against the government,
0 are so many people sitting there waiting all the time,
0 B:  # and # it, it is, you know, individual doctors that do own or have a, you
1 [laughter]. 
1 find out the other arguments in favor of, you know, so,
0 A:  #Okay.# 
0 B:  -- in several areas, but I really do think that women have made a
1 B:  # it # says, let men run the world, women have more important things to do
1 B:  Well that depends on what day of the month it is. 
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 A:  # or # they say they do anyways, and, but I think ones that don't have to,
1 B:  I mean, you know, since the days of the pioneers, around here. 
0 B:  # for # a while [laughter]. 
1 B:  -- and now people have jam box with C D players in them, you know. 
0 A:  -- medieval studies,
0 A:  # sleeping # with their boyfriends [laughter]. 
0 B:  Oh, yeah.  It's kind of scary when I think of what will happen in twenty
1 A:  Even when they're on another continent. 
1 A:  And, uh, both my kids had been abroad when they were still in high school
0 friends that live in the city and I think that they get a lot of fallout from
0 A:  -- but it's pretty congested.  We are considered in the country,
0 B:  Um.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  Uh, they classify most of them as professionals.  
0 B:  Right.  
0 know, two counts of kidnapping, uh --
0 So what, what,
0 purpose to go rip everything out now [laughter] and do it over just because
0 A:  # into # the yard but,
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
1 the house,
0 A:  # for # ticks and fleas.  And you know, they're,
1 find a house to put that door on before she does [laughter]. 
1 going to have to move fast,
1 on legislation wise.
0 B:  I was going the wrong direction.  Uh, because of, we had a neighbor child
0 B:  So, uh, I mean it, it destroyed two families -- 
1 A:  Right.  
0 A:  and had time to do anything about it.  
0 them do.
0 B:  A lot of the, the taxes gets back to the members of the Congress and
1 they were going to hire a lot of people,
0 B:  #And then we get these#  professionals out of there, and they have to learn
0 #that's hurting us but although,#
1 A:  No, I just, just a housewife.  I just heard about it and #found it fun
1 A:  Guess I like to talk, that's all [laughter]. 
0 B:  [Laughter]  Well, it's been some interesting subjects, yeah. 
1 whether it's actually a school related thing or not and,
0 B:  -- uh, either unemployed and don't care about a, uh, just a have their own
0 that much of a problem with.  #But it's,#
0 B:   Yeah [Laughter].
1 A:  And, so, I mean, you have to find out whether there's a legitimate reason,
1 uh, oh, what was it, I can't remember, that's just terrible.
1 guys at once with guns and --
0 you know, we'll go to like, uh, Segal, or we haven't went to Segal yet, we're
1 up their own little Army, you might say.  They start out small, but they get
0 B:  she's five.  
0 A:  You've still have a lot of time before she gets up in years [laughter].
0 A:  I guess I'm calling to tell you about my exercise program.  
0 A:  But, then after about, uh, four weeks then I had to use them all the time
0 um, you know, I, I it doesn't bother me to take walks by myself I just, when I
1 the best things because it's something if you live into your nineties
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 doesn't travel that much and that whenever as soon as he gets home from work
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  Oh, my gosh, yes.  I, I think it's wonderful I've had it and on a regular
1 even.
0 B:  [Laughter].  Yeah.  I agree.  I agree there's something about being in the
0 Chicken.
0 though,
0 A:  the worst part of it.  
0 A:  Um, I lived in Louisville, Kentucky for a while,  
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Well, we can't say they did but,
0 A:  Yeah.  It is.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 have a big dog but we doesn't need a big dog.  We got this little bitty dog
0 sometimes the editor will help me focus, uh, you know, somebody who has thought
1 faced lies in print. 
0 experience, uh, the drive is the important, or is, I, I consider to be the
0 by any means in high school.  I was not a bad student, but was not an
0 married. 
0 looking at, at what the, the individuals interests are, instead of just what,
0 B:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 B:  Yeah.  Uh, I agree I think that makes a difference, uh,
0 equations or (( )) or something like that, he didn't know what you were talking
1 divide correctly [laughter].
0 B:  -- HOMECOMING and INNER CHILD, and so I read usually that kind of stuff. 
1 B:  -- so, in m-, in my spare time with a two and a half and a three and a half
1 B:  [Laughter]  [noise]  That's true. 
0 B:  That's true.  Well, you probably, I, I seem to remember that, uh, little
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 idea that isn't vatted by your peers [/noise]. 
0 B:  you know [lipsmack].  But, he's got a, quite a collection of those.  But,
1 A:  in the middle of the night [laughter],  for people can video tape them. 
1 But, other than that, uh, my reading centers on PADDINGTON [noise] BEAR,
1 B:  and [laughter]  WINNIE THE POOH,
0 A:  uh, which lists all the upcoming books, forthcoming books, and,
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 because I have to go now s-, to see me mother, I have to go to th-, the
0 B:  [Noise]  It's a big, it's on the Brazos River.  They dammed up the Brazos
0 A:  That's wonderful. 
1 fact, it was called ((Tulley)) High School and now it's called Roberto Clemente
1 [laughter]. 
1 A:  # it # was, Spanish and English, so if you can imagine how I even go-,
0 A:  # I've # been back up for a reunion. 
0 B:  # Yeah, yeah.  #
0 colors of the,
1 B:  Uh, so, uh, I think T I, uh, likes to live in the middle of the road. 
0 B:  But, uh, uh, I was there also before the dental plan was in place and, and
1 talked about it and we were aware of it for a long time before T I finally,
0 because they now have some, some cancer screening tests,
0 that. 
0 it is a habit that a lot of them, you know, may have a problem quitting, you
0 matter of fact, all of them have quit, but they've all done it on their own.
0 use more improvement?
0 draw anything out of it, is, is just not even hardly worth the effort
0 A:  # boy # [/noise]  [laughter]. 
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 wealth there that,
0 B:  # it # there, huh? I've heard so many people talk about that area.  I've
0 A:  funny how [laughter],  how,
0 section which required a lot of inserting while listening to Speaker A's 
0 B:  Well [breathing],  we, uh, we don't do a lot of family,
1 A:  It'll, they'll call back. 
0 A:  In Dal-,
1 restaurants [bird_squawk]  I don't like to go to.  I [laughter], 
0 over tonight to my son's house.  He's taking me out tonight for Mother's Day
0 A:  that, that, and I do, I tip accordingly.  Oh, believe me.  I --
1 A:  # then # I hope it makes them feel bad, but I don't think it does
0 B:  # lot # of out of towners and --
0 A:  Yeah. 
0 B:  That's for sure. 
0 A:  What is that?
0 A:  Right. 
0 I said, it's all his contemporaries and his friends there, so he just, he was
0 A:  In terms of what they're talking about.
1 B:  It was constantly, no, #I don't want him,#
0 way though, good ob-, good objectivity that, that doesn't really, that's not a
0 A:  Uh, I don't think I could be dumper where I could take it from, you know,
0 A:  Well, they need a schedule I think.  I don't think the United States, what
0 B:  No, I was in the Middle East.
0 child care or geriat-, or elder care, as I call it.
0 B:  Right.
1 B:  We've tried to go camping with them [laughter]  and the last time it wound
0 B:  # Oh, yeah, it's frightening.  #
0 A:  But, uh, [breathing],  you know,
0 A:  # we used to hike all # summer long.  We used to go up to New Mexico and,
1 mean it's just kind of like, no, no, not me. 
1 A:  # a # little drastic with kids, but for, you know, two adults,
1 three or four days when they get home just to recuperate from it. 
1 A:  So, I don't know. 
0 A:  You, you don't, you don't hear of many people that's taking their families
0 B:  Oh, that sounds neat. 
0 get elaborate, we could do something like that, but right now they think it's a
0 A:  Okay, uh, you do have children, right?  
0 B:  Yes.  You know,
0 competition with anyone else, you know what I mean?  Like you are.
0 standard nine to five job?
1 B:  Oh yes, very much.  
1 B:  -- licking my son's face now.  
0 mom didn't go back to work until I was in junior high school.
0 B:  But I think with the way the future is, um, economy wise, I don't think
0 B:  And not a, and not a very good one at that.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 B:  and fact, uh, the best tight end in football is now their coach
1 you know, what's the football game [laughter].
1 they're so tired, and the carbon, they're overcome by ama-, carbon monoxide
0 B:  Yeah, yeah, that's hard to believe, alright [throat_clearing].
1 B:  Yeah.  Who do you think, uh, Chicago will have quarterbacking now?
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  they didn't really [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  But that's really I guess, what I know about football [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah, it sure is [laughter].
1 sports [laughter].
0 A:  and you check those subjects, and you go, well [laughter].
1 B:  My goodness, uh.
1 A:  so we did, you know, we did try, and of course we learned too.
0 B:  Yeah, well, I started working half-time when, uh, they were at the nursery
1 B:  but it's not quite so much the hand-holding and peanut butter and jelly
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 uh, the model, the role models that get the, the, the family issues that get
0 little trinket for each day,
0 A:  We definitely see this, uh, and, uh, it's that grandmother figure, not only
0 dollar homes that are hard to get rid of.  But, and then I've heard pros, it
0 they're gorgeous homes, but, th-, I've never seen so many two story homes and
1 B:  # half # acre lot and you can clip the lawn with a pair of scissors. 
0 lime and spread fertilizer,
0 B:  # and take care of # their lawn as, beautiful lawn, and I come over and
0 A:  Oh, I know. 
1 B:  Is that your version of counting sheep?
0 get any traffic from, uh, National. 
0 A:  Yeah, that's nice. 
0 B:  -- lining up for the approach. 
0 A:  Oh, yeah, yeah. 
1 B:  Yeah. 
0 A:  Yeah, really [laughter]. 
0 best, uh, draft picks?
0 I can't remember them all now. 
0 A:  # Right.  #
1 B:  When your team keeps getting these stupid penalties,
0 A:  Yeah.  It seems like they blow it. 
0 B:  -- so it kind of runs in cycles, I think. 
1 up, you know [laughter],  this is like, Arkansas people. 
0 B:  Well, this should be, uh, we did pretty well last year, so I'm thinking
0 B:  # and # my mom has never watched football hardly in her life,
0 like it was the height of the, of the, uh, Cowboys empire, so to speak, when,
0 A:  Um. 
0 then they try and do another sequels, some of the sequels,
1 B:  Well, they, uh, they almost didn't make it back in a couple cases
1 A:  Yeah.  No,
1 B:  [Laughter]  Yeah. 
0 last movie I seen.  It was good.  I liked that.
0 B:  Okay. 
0 B:  Well that's, I would say that's probably true.  Uh, I know in, in my
0 the changes that you can think of are the most significant?
1 liberation.
1 B:  Uh-huh.
1 a male chauvinist, or a female chauvinist.
0 B:  Right, and, uh,  
0 that between the two but there is a big difference in things like property
0 watch Baltimore news.  You know, that really makes, I don't really bother with
0 part of the country you only see that perspective.  It's interesting to see
0 ever e-, hardly ever even eat beef until I was about five or six years old.
1 B:  [Lipsmack] [breathing] this isn't just really great hunting country
0 B:  And, and I understand that these magazines, you know, and whatnot, that
0 B:  Uh, no I've only been here for the last ten years, uh,
0 B:  that would be a, to me, a really nice vacation --
0 A:  Yeah. 
0 A:  # s-, # water skiing. 
0 B:  Oh, really. 
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 B:  # and # then when we-, eventually, when we have kids,
0 A:  Yeah, I find the outdoors very relaxing and, you know, kind of [breathing] 
0 A:  Yeah, I don't agree with that either, the, the Robin Hood approach,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 inner city or the suburbs.
1 white.  We had, uh, no minorities at all.
1 B:  #Um [laughter],#
0 A:  Yeah, uh-huh.
1 get harassed by their peers,
0 B:  Um. but they actually are supposed to go to the library and do their own
0 B:  And three I do think that parents need to be more involved.  I don't know,
1 goes on and then I feel like I can't really complain too much, unless
1 A:  [Laughter] I'm twenty-six.  
0 A:  well, I don't know mu-, that much about it.
0 A:  not really.
1 B:  Right, everybody's got a secret [laughter].  So,
1 B:  And that kind of keeps from getting a lot of issues resolved [breathing]
0 A:  Well,
0 hostages that were held at that time?
0 B:  Okay.
0 Have you seen that?
0 A:  And you're usually going to do, you're usually going to go to a dinner,
0 patients there, you can't leave by themselves, because they'll make a weapon
1 similar title like, uh, I don't know some, I don't know, some macho title.
1 A:  I guess, I'm not fond of the action packed movie,
0 B:  you know, or school board wide, or you know what I'm saying, 
0 B:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.  Um, like I say, this all may be in name only, kind of
0 those women sometimes pick up on those kids emotional needs and might, you
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 the problem is, the pay scale.  Probably it's because, you know, women go into
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 do, they're very proud of their state, so they've, psychologically they've
0 that,
0 B:  For it to, and to be adopted and funded, you know, by cities.
0 Americans don't feel like they've had enough representation,
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Well of course, Dallas is in a great upheaval right now over the
0 fourteen one and ten four one, you know, programs and it's, you know, going
0 back and forth between courts to, you know.
0 play.  He just has a really good ((moves)).
0 A:  They just, uh, work the ball and, uh, [breathing]  pass around, and make
0 B:  I like Danny Ainge okay. 
0 A:  -- hit another team on the way?
0 know you have to have the other players there to complement him.  And finally
0 accomplishment if, if they hit, you know, some three pointers or something.
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  -- and, uh, you know, they wash, when they open up the dam and let out
1 water they,
1 A:  we want here [laughter]. 
1 aspirations [laughter].
0 like, you know, I don't know if I'll ever want another new car again,
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 has --
1 it down there and find out what's wrong with it, I mean he came back with a
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 again and I'm like, oh, please, it looks exactly the same as this old one
0 A:  Yeah,
1 engineer but he cannot, I mean, or maybe he's just doesn't want to mess with
0 B:  Yeah.  
1 A:  brought your Chevy to me I could, I'd probably have some parts,
0 ===========================================================================
0 [Noise] [TV].
0 B:  # but, #
0 A:  # and # letting, public letting you understand,
1 it was pretty hard to do at eighty pounds.
0 B:  Oh, I believe me, I understand.
0 day.
0 day I was talking to a lady about gardening and I'm, I love gardening and she
0 A:  # Good.  #
0 people pick it up on a separate day. 
0 wondered if they're really active. 
0 B:  # But I, I'm hopeful.  #
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 B:  # Surely, #
1 A:  # oh, # well, we'll forgive each other [laughter]. 
0 B:  yeah, that would be even, yeah, I didn't even,
0 but then he never showed up.
0 things that happen or,
0 B:  Right, or it should have been looked into more. 
1 B:  Right.   
0 just charge it, but really, I mean, if they don't have the money then, they
0 B:  #Yeah.#  
0 A:  or something.  Sometimes when you, when you, the money will be available,
1 B:  everyone in the world does, I guess, and occasionally it actually balances,
0 B:  # where # we put it, we have a separate, a third account even, a savings
0 A:  Of course, she looks at what she brings home each week.  It's going to be
1 A:  I know, and those nails are so expensive [laughter]. 
1 body lotion than I do on soap for an entire year.
0 B:  # Eventually, right.  I mean you're not # going to, # Right.  #
1 A:  # they haven't changed # at all, you know. 
1 B:  I actually encourage my wife to spend money sometimes. 
1 A:  That's good honey, I'm glad you bought it on sale [laughter]. 
0 society than anything else,
0 B:  Um, and see, I don't think that's so true anymore. 
0 A:  Huh-uh.  Right. 
0 A:  # Sure [laughter].  #
0 B:  They have a lot of prestige. 
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 A:  # You # know (( )),
0 B:  They have three children. 
1 A:  I think that sometimes goes hand in hand. 
1 A:  Are they sounding familiar?
0 B:  # Huh-uh.  #
1 B:  # [Laughter].  #
1 increasing, increasing [sniffing]  and not to the same rate as our pay
0 B:  Right.  Me either [sniffing]. 
0 B:  # Yeah.  #
1 A:  Oh, you're kidding.  What's the name of that company [laughter]? 
1 A:  # Yeah, yeah, I don't work at T I.  # My husband works at T I, but, um,
0 A:  # I # don't how they can do it. 
1 A:  That's why I'm not a boss, I guess [laughter]. 
0 B:  Five to seven. 
0 A:  That's still pretty good, though.  I mean the fact that your vested that
1 A:  And, and, I mean, and I'm working for a company that's making money
0 B:  # Yeah.  #
1 just need to sit down and hire some people, the grunts, as I call them, like
0 could be for the size company as T I. 
0 B:  Right. 
1 filtering down to the peon level. 
0 A:  I like K R L D. 
1 B:  I read the comics. 
0 A:  Whereas in the paper, I like to read the articles because they get every
0 B:  In, well I used to be more into crafts, when I was younger, like high
0 B:  -- made rugs and stuff.  Um, and, uh, I've learned how to crochet, but I
0 B:  Pretty time consuming, isn't it?
1 pretty dark, and ended up not being real smooth looking.  Since I've moved away
0 A:  -- the same.
0 B:  It's not five and dime anymore, but the, uh, [lipsmack] analogy is there.
1 notice the scenery means I didn't like the plot.  [Laughter] So,
0 things about.  Um, [lipsmack] oh, let's see, what was it?  Um, it's a David
0 A:  I did.  I told my husband, I've got a book in the car, give me the car
0 A:  Uh.
0 heavier scenes are --
1 A:  and a Fred Astaire festival, and so on, we were going a couple of nights a
0 of these things that they come up with that I just can, just boggles my mind,
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 A:  Okay, back to crime.  
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 A:  -- #and Alabam-,# yeah, yeah, the southern states are, are more into that,
0 MINUTES the other night about those criminals, those prisoners being given a
0 B:  #You know,# because the --
0 B:  Right.
0 B:  I went an, last year I went an was exercising on a bike for a while and I,
1 should keep up.  
0 A:  Right, an --
0 B:  I need, like you, I, I need competition, is what I need. 
0 B:  you know, developing and everything.  Now there, you can take those, uh,
1 upper lip or something.
0 A:  I don't know if it does to everybody, he was, i-, it, just that's how it
0 B:  You slide.
0 A:  I got my  fill of it. 
0 A:  So, now my idea of, of vacation is laying on the beach,
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  You've been there?
0 B:  I think a long time ago, when we were going to go there they were having
0 A:  Yeah.  
1 A:  Yeah, I've been just about everywhere you could imagine in the world
0 this winter. 
1 B:  Do you. 
1 B:  I'm kind of envious of somebody that gets to travel that much [laughter]. 
0 lot of potential for, you know, uh, hijackings and things like that, terrorist
1 B:  Well that's okay, she wants to talk about vacations, that's what it is
0 searching for recipes that are different.  Some things are traditional, okay,
0 A:  Sure. 
0 A:  So we just, [laughter],  you know, raw potatoes, yes if she was peeling
0 since I was first introduced to it, uh. 
1 sort of spicy [laughter]. 
0 B:  [Laughter]  Yes I know, it's funny. 
1 condiments that you couldn't get for Mexican cooking, here, Spanish cooking,
0 B:  # But, # but I know, um, I have visited my sister-in-law in New Mexico once
0 sponge painting, said you can like layer different colors and,
0 I don't have an actual instruction book so I'm really in kind of the beginning
0 regular painting.  Uh, I've painted several houses, inside.  No-, I,
0 A:  Um, I tried to get wallpaper off once twenty years ago, oh, with a just
0 a scraper and wet sponge and it took forever.  I would not recommend that
0 bathroom too.  And the, the tiles were sort of a mottled grey and had a little
0 B:  Okay.
0 you could include that in benefits.  Some places aren't very safe to work. 
0 B:  Right.  I mean, sure, the payroll is lower that way, but I would assume
1 A:  Great, I'm glad you are, I'm not. 
0 some conference, uh, players come from outside of Texas, you know, and play us
0 back, uh, to having true student athletes, and, and that's what I think is a
0 B:  Yeah, so that's, I mean, that's pretty big.  Like he's from Indiana, and he
1 basketball up there.  The Pacers don't really draw that big of a crowd
0 they got rid of last year.  I'll think of them in a minute.  Perkins, Sam
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 like a Harvard or something, they're big bucks.  Sometimes, fortunately,
0 know, people kind of think that's a joke, you know, and, you know, it's big
1 A:  Well, I don't know, uh, we'll see how that goes.
0 B:  and long, sad, typical divorce story.
1 A:  ((Well)) I've been through one of those too [laughter].
0 A:  No, I'm not really familiar with the area.  I'm, I come to Austin very
0 B:  #Right, or frosted.#
1 was just talking to someone seeing whether or not I couldn't hire you back
0 clean, keep it warm or cool, or whatever,
0 B:  that are?
0 big as that, but it was wonderful.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  #Because we,#
0 in Europe, you know, they speak their French and all and they try, they go out
1 A:  Yeah.
1 it might sound,
0 B:  it's horrible.
0 A:  #Well that's# another one I read, I forgot that.  I read the WALL STREET
0 A:  Uh-huh.  It wo-, 
0 B:  Okay, well I pay five dollars a month for my medical and then we have a
0 A:  [Baby_crying].
0 uh, similar, but wasn't.  I mean I, it was, uh, doing, it was a little bit
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 A:  Uh, oh, you're in trouble.
0 own one because I know I've used guys with pickup trucks two or three times.
0 A:  Um, not so much on her part, but I don't know, my dad always bought Ford
0 A:  Pardon.
1 A:  No, no, we, we just got a new puppy, but, uh, 
1 say we should sell hers.
0 mine has the space cab and it actually has little drop seats in the space
0 marked down, you know.  And the, and the guy came out of the back and insulted
0 B:  I guess it was a sales technique.  He thought he was going to pressure me
1 B:  Well, we don't have any kids but we like them anyway.
0 B:  Huh, I don't know.
1 door honey, sorry.
1 it's been so long since I've seen it.
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0 a half, because it's not something I could continuously do.  But now I'm into
0 point.
0 A:  I like thing-, I like, I like building furniture probably the best.  That,
0 pocket parrot.  They make them for parrots, and they make them for cockatiels.
0 B:  Well, see, when I was, oh, about, I guess about ten years ago, fifteen
0 A:  Huh.
0 A:  it's not as bad as being single and divorced, but it's sort of like, if
0 B:  Right.
0 A:  So,
1 A:  -- really hit hard,
1 B:  I know it.  Or, uh, who cares about the sex life of a tsetse fly?
1 A:  Well, actually, as a matter of fact, that sort of research,
0 time.  I've got a congressman who is very #concerned about# --
0 B:  Uh-huh, #well that's good.#
0 bring you any income until you sell it [laughter].
1 A:  #And so# now they're going to have to assess us because they, we've --
1 A:  Hi, what do you do with your credit cards?
1 cards.  We don't handle them very well [laughter].
0 A:  Oh, jeez.
1 rid of all of our credit cards except for a MasterCard and a Visa,
0 A:  Oh.
0 their service, they close your accounts out.
0 you paid off every month, you never have to worry about, well, how much do I
0 A:  Purchases.
0 it cost me sixty dollars more to have them.
0 ===========================================================================
1 over and over til they found a party for me to talk to [laughter],
0 A:  Oh, that's a good place to get it.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  [Laughter] Not my favorite part [laughter].
0 something on the order of what you had, uh, you know, it a main dish and
1 A:  Oh, yeah, that's good.
0 A:  Well, my husband's cholesterol is not real high, but he, his father had,
0 A:  Um, yeah, yeah.
1 hand, I'm an economist [laughter].
0 need the service, you know.  Uh, it's, if it's, uh, if it's voluntary service
0 A:  But I don't think it was voluntary.  I think it was just a year of required
0 bureaucratic agencies.
0 dry --
0 B:  -- you know, in-, instead of just military, uh,
0 B:  -- they're going to have to lay of, uh, firemen, they're going to have to
0 B:  They just, they've, they're in the middle of an expos3e now on the state
0 B:  -- just to see what they do during the course of the day. 
0 B:  It's in Rhode Island.  Actually I live in Rhode Island.  I work in
0 B:  Um, but about, uh, six, seven months ago, they had a breakdown of all
0 A:  # Yeah, see, I.  #
0 know, that they advised on cutting.
0 B:  Um, I don't know how much it costs.  Let's, let's round figure, just say a
0 B:  # Right.  But they're, but they're still going # with the, with the
0 A:  Yeah, a big thing. 
1 A:  -- I can hear the accent now I hear the [laughter],
1 A:  I hear the Western Pennsylvania, um.
0 A:  We live, uh, we lived in Minneapolis for about five years.  
0 A:  That's not too bad.
1 B:  Oh, pardon me, we have forty, we gave ten to one of our children
1 B:  Yeah, it's ours up here.  We have, our rural connections are real bad
1 B:  Uh, yeah, we're tired of doing it though.  We, we don't want to do too much
0 your children aren't at home any more.
0 B:  I get tired, uh, sometimes, mowing, [laughter] because we mow, you know, a
0 you know, with the style changes, you know, they're, they're, a lot of them
1 while you can.
0 for some strange reason I test drove a Range Rover.
0 A:  Yeah.  I mean it'd be nice to be able to afford it, but, I, I'm just not,
0 A:  And then you don't want to turn around and, and, you know, the next time
1 B:  Yeah, actually, we're, we're looking forward to getting out of here.
1 A:  [Laughter]  Good deal.
0 there's new music, come from, we've got a radio station down here that, uh,
1 B:  Is it music that, um, like you can understand the words to?
1 A:  -- I'm musically destitute.
0 B:  Sort of grown out of that?
1 B:  Who won't get you into too much trouble [laughter]?
0 B:  Me, either.
1 um.
0 A:  They quickly let you off jury duty I hear, um.
1 court that they all, unanimous on not guilty [laughter].
0 B:  Well I just think it's, it's weird because I've saw, well, of course, soap
0 trying to frame him and he was on trial for it, and then, you know, it came
0 the prosecuting attorney.  I'm sure the prosecuting attorney could make a real
0 A:  Do I vote?
0 A:  way up north here, huh.
0 have any answers for [laughter].
0 A:  I wouldn't be f-, against control if it made it virtually impossible for
1 A:  #That's all right.#
0 to take control over, um, you know, my own defense, and my own safety.  I, I,
0 A:  but that's his normal style,
0 A:  or whatever, 
0 father who did take revenge on, um, someone who had hurt his children and,
0 first eight grades, the high school, or colleges.  I have mixed views on all
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 that, ind-, indeed many, uh, manufacturing and other,
0 A:  or fairly decent graduate, I should say.
0 children, a-, a-, are not far off that mark with six point eight.
0 that I have, another problem I have is, uh, I don't really know how to resolve
0 A:  #I, well,# I guess they're [laughter],
0 B:  Uh-huh, yeah.
1 a,
0 polluted.  I really do think that's part of it.
0 B:  A hundred and sixty.
1 A:  Um, no, there have been times, though, when it gets so frigid that you
1 know, fifty degrees [laughter].
0 around to pick it up they do all the separation.
1 feet,
0 for it [barking].
0 run, it's one of those things that's, that's of universal benefit to every
0 if, if anybody, it should be the government, but, you know, ultimately it
0 that the government there in Raleigh, I mean, they've, you know, they provide
0 they, they sell the, the glass and the newspaper.  My understanding is that
0 society, I mean, capitalism thrives on there being a fair price for a product,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 country that has fared very well with it, and I'd like to see the, uh, the
0 B:  And, uh,
1 A:  Well, they say second hand smoke and that, is worse than smoking
0 fire.  They were so impressed. 
0 B:  I used a tire chain and the bottom of a Dutch oven. 
1 A:  Well, I'm impressed [laughter]. 
0 ============================================================
0 A:   Okay, so my children are twenty and twenty-four --
0 B:   Yeah, well, I, first of all, I'd, I admire you for, I have a few
1 friends who are single parents, and I just don't know how people
0 go and do things and we read books, and we play, and, you know,
0 A:  -- you know that you get to do w-, that ch-, that kids get to do, and, and
0 A:   Uh-huh.
1 get on that topic, I have to be real careful because --
0 could be five bedrooms.  Yeah, if you had two people that don't have any
1 ambitious and an-, get angry I'll start poking holes up there, but until that
0 a standard and the two acre being what most people have.
0 down from Colorado and there was more land up there around a yard with a big
1 A:  #then you don't get the benefits.#  Yeah, yeah, you don't get anything at
0 There should be some provision for appeal or something, I guess, (( )) need.
0 uh, immediately from, from the ocean.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Wow.  {pause} And that's about, that's what we get this time of year, just,
1 the summer.
0 little old ladies living there or what, but you could just tell that they had
1 have to just asphyxiate ourself with the poison, which is good, because
1 B:  Oh, yes [laughter].  They're both running around now.
1 B:  you know.  They certainly enjoy that part of it [laughter].
0 that was eventua-,
0 outside, the Gulf War was outside, so it doesn't it, I guess we just don't
0 have the resolve t-, to really face up and, and, and follow those
0 B:  And one of the bases that's being closed, or that's on the, you know, on
1 be closed, you know.
0 is, is geared, you know, or, or aimed toward me then it's a bad tax.
1 B:  You know, I, I think that, uh, you know, I think we're just going to have
0 even find myself, you know, I see, I, I play that game with myself sometimes,
1 individuals would do, and that's, you know,
0 have to tell where you live, you don't have to put your phone number down.
0 financial background, your educational background.  Uh, one of the biggest
0 B:  Uh-huh, did you, have you registered for a conference recently?
1 the credit bureau and he got her financial standing, okay.
0 remember that, and, I mean, you know, he was relying on her not remembering,
1 get it so,
0 B:  Oh yeah, you bet, you bet.  And with computer technology now, look how
0 A:  you can get off those junk mail lists.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Way to go, neat.
1 Kentucky, I should know but,
1 just something that goes with the territory.
0 A:  In Texas, I'm serious, if it gets cold and it looks like it's going to
0 B:  Well,
0 A:  Yeah, school buses and the --
0 A:  -- in Kentucky.  And I was having to walk along the highway.  It was just
0 A:  W-, yeah, it's kind of l-,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Um.
1 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 from Charlotte, North Carolina, and Virginia, and, um, I can't remember where
1 A:  With Boston, I love their accent [laughter].
0 went to Panama --
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0 B:  Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that.
0 at all, they usually got, uh, sun blisters, you know, or, or it would rain on
1 volunteer to come back every year --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Well, that's just in the springtime, too, isn't it?
1 those trees lean,
0 growing, they're going to be leaning away from the, you know, the direction of
0 A:  -- until I went to the nursery one day and found out they were selling it
1 by plugs, you know --
1 A:  You're not?
1 I'd have to do that for two solid [laughter] weeks before I'd lose five pounds.
1 A:  [laughter]
1 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Sure, and they've got #these#,
1 B:  Well, that's fine. I think we covered quite a bit.
1 B:  And not too dressy, like, you know, after five stuff.  I've nev-, 
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  [Laughter] That's (( )),
0 I'm not in a clean room or nothing.
0 Yeah.
1 everyday summer shorts, you know, but there's no fly [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah, they're not, for a guy that really changes your, the whole way you do
0 gel in your hair, you know, and that way --
1 B:  -- you know, with these haircuts now [laughter].
1 B:  I told him, No, no, huh-uh, we can't have that.
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  I'm fairly full of it, of it myself.
0 was Mississippi State University --
0 B:  And they don't learn the communications, they don't learn the thought
0 enough time for the work unfortunately.
0 A:  I'm pursuing a Doctorate in Psychology.  So, I'm just, wind up spending a
0 B:  -- #the situation where# I had to put, 
0 B:  -- and they have, you know, a deduction kind of plan where it's tax free,
0 B:  And, and much needed.  I, I like to see those kinds of things that
0 B:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.
0 A:  Right.
0 the team members that were interviewed all seemed to be very supportive of
1 A:  -- uh, because they are the ones who are making the profit out of your
1 B:  look at each other, yeah, you look at each other and say, well,
0 it.  Um, I, I have very mixed feelings about it.  I don't disagree or agree
0 labeled and I have a real problem with medical professionals, um, it goes back
1 A:  Yeah, I guess so, I mean well, uh, good luck to you, you just moved to
0 with, let's just say, um, that somebody who's in ne-, not us, but somebody
1 A:  Oh, they do?
0 B:  Where are you from Tina?
0 B:  Yeah.
1 that early age.
1 B:  it's so much easier to go to mom, I guess they get used to it.
0 getting to spend as much time at home as he'd want to.
1 A:  Yeah, yeah, at least, I, I just consider myself blessed that I can stay
0 B:  Yeah.
1 ==========================================================================
1 B:  we do not have that problem [laughter].  
1 B:  we will be glad, I will be glad to give you some of ours [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Are you in an agricultural area?  
0 B:  Uh, it is very, it is very rough on them so,
0 Because the, the Summers are extremely hot.
0 in Texas.  I could be wrong.
0 B:  I, I had a friend from England visit once at Christmas, and we could not
0 A:  Yeah, it takes me about four and a half hours to do, to mow our grass.  And
0 B:  Uh-huh.  That,
0 B:  Okay. 
0 throughout the whole tape.  Tape skips in some places.  
0 B:  Uh, I have never been in trouble with credit cards, but, uh, my youngest
0 B:  And I always, uh,   
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
1 Palley Royal.  So, you know, they, it is just ha-, you know, you got stay
0 the, uh, jeopardizing their credit for that amount of time.  Because they
1 A:  (( )) [laughter]. 
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 toys, things that cost quite a lot in the store, you can find that kind of
0 stuff at garage sales for just a few dollars.  
1 chore?  [laughter].
1 A:  Oh, well, we like it once in a while but not as often as we have to do it
0 B:  Yeah.
1 doing.  It is funny though, it is like I do not really want to cook for us
0 B:  Yeah.  My, uh, my husband loves to fish.  I am not much into fishing, but,
0 A:  Oh, they have so much fun doing that.  
1 it now [laughter].
1 A:  picked it back up again, and now I can't remember anything about it
1 B:  Uh, uh, people do not do that much any more. So, it was something easy I
1 =========================================================================
0 B:  It would have been incredible.  I, I think of, uh, you know, all the,
0 So," he says, "I have never seen, uh, calves follow a bull.  They always
1 them if they break a leg and,
1 A:  My husband is not a conformist at all. 
1 B:  Well, see,
1 B:  bless his heart, you know [laughter]. 
1 bottoms but,
0 not want to work.  I want to tend to her. 
1 [/child_talking].
0 A:  Yeah.  That --
0 B:  And I think, you know, the more we try to, you know, shape that, the more
1 B:  -- on to you." 
1 B:  I do not know how they do scale down there.  You know, here it would be a
0 really funny, because, uh, one time he left the net in the pond, and he like
1 he came out, and the trap was gone.
0 where the trap, the trap was dragged and things like that.
0 eighteen inches long, and then they start to widen --
0 A:  -- faction, yeah.  
0 B:  Uh-huh [child_talking].
1 A:  that is what I know about the Vietnam War [laughter].  
1 B:  [Laughter].  
1 A:  You know, and you think to yourself, oh, my goodness, Eisenhower
0 B:  Yeah, right in, right near D C.
0 A:  -- in Texas?
0 A:  --  pick up the ballot.  I do not say that it is
0 that would remove your eligibility to vote. {sounds like
1 the other #books were#,
0 B:  #Well, he did refute it.#  
0 I mean, you know, you would take a certain amount off 
0 A:  #Yeah, but the idea is to get# the individual to the 
0 s-s-situation there.  But th-, but, you know, everything
0 B:  Weren't qual-,  
0 kind of thing to say the blacks and Hispanics and other
0 B:  And at one point they di-, they took another vote
0 A:  What do you mean?   
0 care.
1 guess we've sort of run dry a little bit.
0 case that they have to go to a care facility like that, I think that care
0 point where we couldn't handle him anymore.
1 B:  Like the old Indian people used to do [laughter],
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  very much.
0 B:  I know that there, 
0 A:  You know, they were pouring, they were pouring weapons in there and, and
0 from then on.  But, and the, and the Corps of Engineers I think do a better
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 They say, "Well, we're,
0 B:  And I, I saw the movie,   
1 A:  Oh, goodness.
0 every once in a while.  And he has learned to count to twenty from that.  
0 he becomes.
1 A:  It, but it is a not really a good baby sitter [laughter].
0 B:  [Laughter]  Well,   
1 B:  -- ideas.
0 them to watch.
1 B:  Oh, d-, [laughter],  
0 A:  Kirk Douglas?
0 A:  Because there is not a lot of shows that do that.  [cough] And, uh, they
0 B:  What channel is it on?
1 one that is not a, a dot [laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter].  
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  How, how did this subject get on my list?  Oh,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  all the time [laughter] {mimics dramatic voice}.  And never getting
0 A:  Yeah that,   
1 so [laughter],
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  -- more sure of themselves instead of more sure footed, you know.  Uh, and
0 time immemorial.  And when, uh, difficult decisions, uh, are made, uh, uh, uh,
0 A:  in any sort of a case that even where damages are, are, are, uh, are the
0 reporters how they reached that decision.  I mean, I do not,
0 A:  I am not making excuses for [noise].  That might be it.
0 A:  Oh.  Is it?
0 B:  Southwest part of Missouri. 
0 A:  she was th-, 
0 A:  And now I have got a sister in Germany, and [laughter] --
0 B:  Yeah. 
1 [baby_talking] sump.  It was part of the sewage cleaning system.
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  [Baby_talking]. 
1 B:  Yeah.  Well, that keeps you busy. 
0 A:  Yeah.   
1 A:  Uh, I won't be adding any more to the family reunion [laughter].
0 the individual the right to own firearms, for, you know, for their, whatever
0 to is like, uh, machine guns and, uh,
0 a, uh, criminal or somebody with criminal intent, real criminal intent, wants
0 injured, but not seriously apparently.  But, uh, you know, it was really
0 is allowed to carry a gun.
0 B:  Right.  Well, I guess that, I do not really know, uh, I, I guess there is
0 to work an i-,
0 at least, 
0 figured maybe I'd get one or two years out of it, an I, an I did get a couple
1 B:  Okay, normally I watch, uh, T V.
0 B:  Oh, basically network news.  Was it, 
1 A:  Yeah, I get the Sunday paper because of the T V schedule.
0 A:  Yeah yo-, --
1 newspaper suffers to watching T V, and T V is more entertaining, uh, it, uh,
0 was an accident one way or the other.  
1 A:  And they, they forget all about him.
1 A:  Yeah.  And he sets up traps for them all over the house.
0 B:  Uh, we usually wait and ev-, eventually it comes out on video, and then we
0 long movie.  You know, they said, "Oh, people won't, won't be interested in a
0 good.
1 A:  Yeah.  
0 B:  [Laughter].    
0 A:  [Cough].
0 B:  It is an incredible book.  It, uh, really is very, very interesting.  I
0 B:  and the money magazines.  And, uh, well, I am reading historical, uh, not a
0 B:  when she ever there is something, I say, well, have you read the
1 directions?  {Mimicks another voice} "No, I hate reading the directions."
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 A:  Yeah.  When I wor-, 
0 [laughter].
1 B:  No, right, uh, who knows, uh,  
1 A:  Except for Donald Duck.  
1 B:  [Laughter].  
0 B:  Okay.  Yeah, well, uh, hang in there.  And good luck with those kids.
0 B:  [Sigh] it, it was pro-, probably was up to your shoulder in, in thistles.
0 That was all that was there.
1 B:  Oh, well, I have a twenty six year old stepson,
1 B:  Yeah.  It is over with.
0 A:  Oh, they will?
0 B:  -- quite formal.  But it has been about three or four years of, uh, uh,
0 insists on full sun.
0 A:  Well, I do not know.  How big a city is Rome?  I mean, you have heard
0 Because they were protesting, uh,
0 A:  a couple of years ago?
0 B:  I know it.  How s-, deprived could they be if they had a camcorder?  Those
0 the superior and I was the subordinate.  And, you know.
0 work.
1 A:  I mean, that is, are you going to be a career person?  I'm digressing, but,
0 all the tourist brochures you read about what you should or should not do.
0 B:  It is, it is really scary.
1 A:  you know,  
1 Boston, staying at the Meridian,
0 B:  -- booked up [laughter].  Yeah. 
0 Or,
1 I am just going, Michael,
0 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  Really, you know, I mean.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 restaurants that we can chose from and unless you go into downtown Washington
0 A:  Oh, wow.  That's something.  
1 B:  But, uh, I don't know.  Uh, it doesn't look very encouraging,
1 B:  -- but here, uh, the schools close when there's half an inch of snow
1 B:  I know, remote control was a great big box,
0 away --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Okay,
1 don't say anything in public to a stranger about his smoking [laughter].
1 A:  It's quite an expense too, now, they keep deciding that's the thing to tax
0 A:  Course it'll surprise them some day, when, when all the hostilities start
0 A:  And are you working at the Texas Instruments, or are you at home?
0 A:  -- but the first results look promising.
1 speech and if they could get them together and compare notes they probably
1 totally different.  So, uh, my interest was spurred, and then it was
0 appropriate punishment for their crime, or do we extend it beyond that?
0 limited.
1 I'm a pretty harsh person.
0 A:  Right.
0 A:  Okay, now you can tell me what you do.
0 able to start using your --
0 sick I could go down and see her, if she needs to be fed, whatever.
0 B:  -- salary for that.
0 B:  Just because people might be more flexible in smaller locations and --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  A (( )) consultant really is, should be more knowledgeable than everybody
0 higher --
0 ===========================================================================
0 tournaments were going to be held, and what the nature of the hole was and,
0 A:  Right, more because of their personalities --
1 of it was I'd pick one out that was different than what my husband was rooting
0 A:  Oh.
0 A:  Uh-huh, yeah.
0 A:  -- for a long time.
1 A:  Right, yeah.  Or my favorite, just ride around in the cart with him
1 [laughter].
0 A:  -- to watch.
1 B:  Uh-huh, well I shot in the hundreds, but I made this one good one
1 A:  -- those are, it's hard for me to,
0 B:  That's right.
1 B:  Oh, whoa, great, I get to walk all around a little green field all day.
1 B:  You know, I'm always the one that got hit by the bat in baseball,
1 B:  and, hu-, hu-, hung my fingernails in the net in volleyball.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  I really, I, I haven't really acquired an interest in it, but I'm
0 A:  Yeah that's,
0 A:  I can do it much #cheaper and better.#
1 off and then spray it with this chemical that he said I should purchase.
0 B:  And, uh, figured [noise] up last night, at, there were seven different
0 A:  #To the ground?#
0 A:  -- #tr-, uh,# a stump killer.
0 in politics.  I, I think that, uh, [lipsmack] within the next ten or fifteen
1 come, it doesn't do them much good [laughter].
0 A:  They also, they tear off the hood ornaments, too.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Right.
0 A:  That's right.
0 B:  -- more than anything,
1 B:  Oh, really.
1 A:  Yeah, I always maintain a zero balance, uh, don't like owing anybody
1 your new, you know, balance with bonus points or whatever,
0 companies, when you are a good customer, I don't think they report that as
0 to write to ask that, and I say well, you know, if someone's so quick to turn
1 a, uh, one dollar check from them out of my briefcase today that expired, uh,
0 B:  Uh, sometimes [laughter] --
0 B:  I mean, you have kids, 
0 grandchildren, and I've always tried to do things with them, uh, like, when
0 A:  Yeah.  Well, I can remember one of the things I'm most proud of is, uh,
1 B:  So that the only reason I'm home is because I'm home with a cold
0 B:  -- uh, here in Virginia.  Likewise, we, uh, we do some projects every now
1 up back about two hundred miles aware, away from where we started out.
1 B:  Oh yeah.
0 Christian music.
0 B:  -- he's always been one of my favorites.
0 do our best to, to live with it or get him to turn it down [laughter].
1 A:  -- and Amy Grant,
0 it'll bring back, you know, some ideas, and --
0 B:  Well I think that, uh, some, some work places where I've been they, they
0 A:  Uh-huh.  And you really have to be able to type pretty fast before, you
0 A:  Uh-huh
0 what they were trying to do.  You know, like, uh, they want to, to format a
0 could, they could do that in about, you know, half the time that they spend
0 A:  I think one of my favorite then is from the guy Stephen, is it Brochco, who
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 season --
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].
1 A:  -- but they don't, they just have one like we do [laughter].
0 A:  -- you know.  And so, I know they didn't pick up these curse words from me.
0 kind of stuff, too.
1 B:  Well, true,
0 B:  Well, it was nice talking to you, too.
0 A:  Oh, what did you get?
1 my criteria for cars is, uh, of being solid, able to take an impact 
0 car.  Another thing I'd definitely [noise] {dropping pan} want would be
0 those are m-, my major criteria.  Everything else is, you know, a luxury, and
1 yesterday I was tell him, you have to, you're supposed to squeeze the plastic
0 A:  and you pay more than just what you would pay for an empty garbage bag
0 well I think it's a waste of paper, the people that always leave, uh, junk
0 B:  That bothered me.
0 even.
1 years that they've been on the air,
0 B:   and putting it falsely out or just bombarding me for the answers.  
1 A:  Yeah, oh definitely [laughter].  ((Seems)) like, 
0 A:  Oh, I do too.  
0 then with the with the twenty-two dollars and the seven something, it all came
0 B:  Okay, well, that's about the same time as me, I came down in eighty-two.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  -- is a very significant factor.  
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 B:  #Yeah, exactly.#  
1 of the Visa because it was getting out of hand having fifteen million
0 B:  but it's not really a credit card [baby_crying].
0 A:  [Laughter] Yeah.  
1 finance charges.
1 B:  Well so,
1 B:  -- and sometimes it comes in right away and it's like, oh, well, guess,
0 A:  Lot of places have tho-, I guess they're called those pointed sale
0 and, you know, if something goes wrong with it within the first year we've got
1 ((you)), hopefully you never use.
1 B:  # And, uh, # most French food always leaves me hungry for some reason. 
0 B:  # when you go to # a French restaurant, or a restaurant downtown.  Well as
0 and everyth-, you know, like you said jazz bands and things like that.  You
0 entertaining I think at home than we do going out.  So when we do go out we
1 seized. 
0 they have their own adaptation of what Italian is.  I mean, but it's, it was a
1 B:  So you don't have any benefits at all to talk about. 
1 watch the six o'clock news on television,
1 as much as I want and when I do I'm wondering why I wanted to see it so bad
0 A:  [Throat_clearing].
0 car seats in the back and just had a whole area in the middle, like if we were
1 A:  Y-, you too, I ho-, 
0 A:  So, well, I guess we're going to talk about children today. 
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  I, I guess I kind of miss having a baby around [laughter].  
1 grandparents complaining --
0 A:  The, the, the packs, I don't think they should be ...
0 the,#
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  but, but, uh,  
0 A:  Because of, uh, it was privately insured but, 
1 does not have the food content that they manage to do.
1 usually they're polite enough to eat it anyway [laughter],
0 A:  Right.  
1 A:  Um.   
0 upset.  Second, it's a big mess to clean up.
1 A:  I'll say.  
0 A:  other little, uh, meats.  Even the, uh, french bread we used to actually
0 know, plus eighty to a hundred pound range.
0 perceived as the better.  And when you start doing that you really tamper
0 B:  -- animal that could hunt and still be in the house.  And I ended up
0 B:  -- because I wanted one that could still perform like a retriever did.  And
1 I've seen an awful lot of [whispering] lately really dumb,
0 a shepherd and something mixed because my husband's family had had shepherds
1 you.
0 here, its personality and its dependability and its reliability was just
0 really good.
0 been, I think, probably, oh, about eight or nine years since we had dental
0 B:  remember when that, who cares [laughter], 
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Oh, really.
0 A:  It keeps your mortgage holder happy.  Ye-,
0 A:  [Beep]  Okay.  
1 B:  My goodness.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 they thought, okay, she knows how to, how to treat children.
0 B:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.
0 and DESIGNING WOMEN.
1 A:  Oh, you do?  [laughter]
1 introduced to the joys of STAR TREK so we watch that with,
0 B:  Uh, Saturdays.  
1 B:  Yes.  Unlike certain parties [laughter].
0 A:  Oh, yeah, I love Nickelodeon, but they get that.  But where they live they
1 B:  Oh, well, [throat_clearing] yes, you hit upon a, a weak spot of mine.
0 A:  Oh, really?  
0 A:  Um.  
1 [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah, it's a good time to buy,
1 A:  Actual [noise] (( )) a,
0 B:  Well, out here we, um, we live in what used to be, uh, like a prairie or
0 B:  Oh, no.  Huh-uh.  You have to, uh, ((stay in one)) single family home.  I
1 A:  Oh, okay, well here we go [laughter].
0 these guys that are, that did some stuff over in the Gulf.  Um.
0 A:  Okay, we're just sort of getting acquainted here.
0 think some different things could come from what's happened, than what we
0 war.  I mean that was one thing,
0 come over?
1 my kids to do that, so, [laughter]
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 food, she really goes all out and I don't know how she can do it and be calm
0 A:  How old is he?
0 B:  He's eleven.
0 B:  Um.
1 B:  -- they don't know I've ever done it in a microwave.
1 make these fancy casseroles and hide it in there, you know, 
1 don't prefer buying a new car.  I like to let somebody else pay for that
1 B:  and I'll drive it until it no longer is reliable.  
0 A:  But do you feel though, uh, craftsmanship is much superior to the American
0 A:  Huh.  
0 A:  No thanks.  That's right.  
0 [laughter].
1 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  Thank you.  {pause} Well, that was one minute.  They hung up.
1 B:  Yeah.  Oh, wow.  [laughter] We like the stuff that glitters [laughter].
1 B:  Good.  
1 B:  Uh-huh.   
1 A:  [Laughter]  So.  
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 turns out to be a telephone salesman.
0 company --
0 A:  We once had a situation where someone was using a credit card number of
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 kind of do their work for them because they make it more hazardous than what
0 B:  Um, go to, I have a membership at Fit-, Fitness and Figure World here.
1 A:  Yeah, mine is just female.  I'm too big of a wimp to go to the male and
0 which is coed, and then it's got the female side which has all their Nautilus,
1 something.
1 B:  Yeah.  
1 B:  I've never,
0 A:  Yeah.  
0 A:  Yeah.
1 me are just pumping it like, you know.
1 B:  So let's turn it down.  
0 A:  [Laughter].  You must ((go in the)) evenings?  
0 B:  Yeah.  
1 A:  I'm sure you'll look fine in your bathing suit.  
0 A:  We do not watch a lot of T V, we try to watch it on Thursday nights, we
0 time you get through [noise]  getting her ready for bed and everything, uh,
0 A:  # Yeah.  #
0 about this and they say that well, it's, it's, they look, they, every year they
0 B:  Uh, right, right, right.
1 else who was flipping channels.
0 cooking shows.  I, I really do.
1 contrary old [laughter] woman [laughter] ever walked.
1 B:  Absolutely, 
1 B:  and, uh, for a four year old to think Bart Simpson is a hero is tragic
0 A:  did you see how he did that and did you see, and I could never
0 A:  Really.
0 A:  No, in fact some of the days we froze.  It was,
0 A:  China was a little bit more, uh, of a challenge.  But, it, it wasn't more
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 they were all completely clean,
0 B:  [/Talking].
0 A:  No, I think that, uh, you know, a, a waiting period, uh, 
1 B:  So.
1 me away, so.
0 A:  Yeah.  I do not know, I just, uh, I do not know, I.  Have you ever been
0 amazing the, that they have to go through about four hundred people to get a
1 B:  # verdict # [laughter]. 
0 A:  # Uh-huh.  #
0 B:  There's no blacks and whites,
0 seems to be so much was the fact that the police now had advanced, uh,
0 bigger budgets.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 convinced that maybe things like football, hockey and, th-, th-, the, you
1 violent, but, so they just throw something in there just to say they have it
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  I listened to a radio talk show today at lunch time --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 and it's like, oh, ((they must be)) (( )) car garage.
0 room, cause it's, you know, it wears really well, and all that.
0 stuff,
0 B:  So, we are,
0 A:  But, uh, we have,
0 A:  My dad enclosed it off, so you kind of go into another room to it.  Uh, but
1 B:  Yeah, well, actually it's a lot bigger than we thought it was [laughter],
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  When you actually have to mow it, it seems to get bigger.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 a, a baked potato.
1 A:  Yes, [laughter] and have an explosion. 
1 A:  And I had to have my, my, my, my dad sort of entertain him for a, for
1 [laughter],
0 A:  Um.
0 A:  Yeah, that's definitely true.  Well I got a magazine the other day called
0 or four days, I think it would be kind of neat.
0 A:  Well they could get really big though and hire a secretary and then you
1 A:  Tha-, I mean a trip is a trip [laughter] so,
1 think, was in New Orleans.
0 on our, on our cooking pans and [laughter] (( )).
0 B:  [Breathing].
0 B:  [Breathing].
0 these contracts are finished or if the space pr-, platform disintegrated for
1 A:  Oh, I see.  That's fine.  Um, I think, uh, that's pleasurable for all of
1 inside of a place that we drove up and I was like, I'm not eating in there
1 B:  -- uh, was to Atchafalaya.  No, that's not right.  
1 A:  Okay.  
0 A:  Unless somebody is trying to blackball them.  
1 and five dollars for something that I could get along quite well without
0 uh, if you went to a cafeteria.
0 B:  Now why would you go to a seafood restaurant [laughter] to eat chicken?
0 north and that was a no no.
0 B:  Oh, catfish is wonderful.  
0 B:  -- and storing them in tin barrels which i-, I guess, 
0 background noise in it.
0 A:  and more instances being on the news,
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  That's right.  
1 A:  No, I'm not a lawyer [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 because, you know, you can't, you can't knock that.
0 tired, you know.
1 next day.
1 buying cold cuts [laughter].
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 A:  Oh, I'm not.  Thank you for noticing [laughter]. 
1 A:  I'm from Chicago.   
1 A:  I got to Texas by way, 
1 A:  of Virginia I'm, 
1 don't know what this is [laughter] going to taste like [laughter].
0 A:  like, oh, God no [laughter]. 
1 and take home,
0 A:  and I'm, I'm a very picky eater so that's another part of my problem.
1 ingredients sometimes that I'm just like, I don't even know what that is
0 moved down to Texas.  And I had,
1 B:  all these things [laughter] my kids are eating [laughter].  
0 so good.
1 B:  I have a daughter who will eat everything.  
1 Helper [laughter].
1 B:  And it's delicious [laughter]. 
1 A:  Well, I'm getting hungry now [laughter]. 
1 you could talk about.  I thought food. I could talk about food [laughter].
1 B:  And then I'm like, give me the blue cheese dressing.
0 B:  Yeah, yeah.  Give me some more refried beans.  
1 noticed Bridgeport, Connecticut's declared bankruptcy.
0 A:  the administrators and the assistant to the assistant to the assistant.
0 B:  Get in,
1 better than that.
1 A:  Um, no, because I can't get beyond making this first quilt. 
0 B:  -- leftover fabric.  
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  Oh.  
1 another sweatshirt again [laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  Right.  I, [laughter] the year goes so fast it's, 
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  [Laughter] an incredible thing.  Well, I'm sure we enjoyed talking to you
0 A:  Really, that's true.  Well,
0 =======================================================================
1 B:  Right [laughter].  
0 B:  Oh, it's amazing.
1 B:  Right.
0 A:  Well, that's, that's a little unusual for, uh, for children of that age, to
1 B:  And, uh, the one year old just kind of follows along and does everything,
0 them.  I, I feel like, uh, that it's, it's really a sad commentary on, uh, you
0 A:  that, uh, you know that children can't, cannot be allowed to grow up, uh,
0 more or, uh, or just, uh, you know, kids just because of the computer age or
0 thing for a long time.
0 a week or so and, uh, you know, where they go for an hour or so.
1 fun.
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  Right, yeah [laughter].
1 A:  The, the disorganized play (( )) really what it was, but,  
0 A:  But, uh, and it's, I guess, that was, you know, as important, uh, as much
0 students have a little too much, uh, too much leeway.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Well, I know of number of people that are in the, in the, uh,
1 B:  Well, there's some joy in it also.  
0 B:  Well, I guess, uh, I really don't have a lot of contact with, uh, with the
0 person as to their honesty.  Uh, the only way that you, you know, the only
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Yeah, there's not, uh, from my -- 
0 B:  -- or, you know, that kind of -- 
0 B:  -- of person-,  
0 commandant and so he called this kind of stuff off and just put her in the
0 houses, but it was, it was, in the, it had large, uh, uh, uh, [lipsmack] press
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  Okay.  
1 B:  -- good.  Impart me some wisdom, Catherine [laughter].  
1 A:  She's says how are you doing grandma today.  
1 B:  Oh [laughter].  
0 that, yes, this is going to be the only one [lipsmack].
0 B:  It's just very different.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  -- back to God because he's given you that ability and that talent and --
0 weren't for the taxes we're putting in there, uh, look what the schools could
0 A:  So and doing all these studies and the things we saw about them traveling
1 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  You just had to find it.  You had to wade through it and find it
0 thought Kevin Costner was just, I got a little sick of his mug on the screen
1 A:  Maybe i-, well, maybe that was, um, 
1 B:  We were not responsible,  
0 B:  Yeah.  Well, I hope you get some of that.  
1 B:  We got enough.  
1 B:  shoveling and everything else.  He said it was a pain.  
1 B:  It's like, wow, it actually fell on the right day.  
1 and, 
1 B:  Yeah, weather is not real hard to talk about [laughter]. 
1 B:  It doesn't last real long either.  
1 @@B:  I thought the weather is the last thing you talk about, 
1 B:  but in this case it's the only thing to talk about.  
0 B:  Yeah.  Oh, yeah, we, we used to like to go to, oh, parades, the circus, um,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  and [laughter] so we had to explain to her we were talking about our dog
0 B:  I, I have to tell you that, um, grandparents are very important to have
0 collecting any of the, uh, uh, the, the, uh, grass that he mows up at all.  He
0 B:  Yeah. 
0 here that we can have the word processing,
0 professional and brought that home and I learned Wordstar on that,
1 [baby_crying].
0 A:  Oh, uh-huh.
0 B:  don't know,
0 once in a while, but mostly family,
1 B:  She's only about, uh, uh, a little less than two years old.
1 B:  No.
0 B:  Uh, well, it was, [sigh] well, it was within the state.
0 B:  -- I, uh, basically was, you know, it was where I was at the time.
0 A:  Um, because you went there.
1 her daughter was.
0 B:  Instead of half doing the job.
1 B:  And then United States is not going to use them.  Yeah, right,
0 A:  What was one of the latest ones that you've seen, actually?
0 worth it, I'll just go at the matinee hour and I can see what I please." 
0 A:  And, that one was just a very poignant story, it, it, it had people, it
1 B:  -- it just gets pretty expensive. 
0 B:  No, I stay at home. 
0 with, uh, [sigh]  Harrison Ford, I guess he's in there. 
1 greasy, and seemed to be conceited and had more women than he needed and
0 A:  Golfers, so we will go out and we will, we will, we will play, you know.
0 time.  When I, when I go on vacation, my father and I, uh --
0 nine hole course.  Because,
1 I'm going to like golf (( )) the older I get,
0 A:  to go --
0 B:  Yeah, I'm sure the people love golf up there like they do down here.
0 B:  I have just got to get this drive, you know, really far, I have got to hit
0 A:  Is it?
0 than a long ir-, you know,
0 B:  I see.
0 B:  it's, I don't think that many by the builder that built this house.  And,
1 Who sold it to a couple who had [sigh] no idea that homes ever needed upkeep.
0 [children_yelling],
0 middle of, you know, the subdivision is, I think fifty five, so, I think the
0 No, it could not be, because this house has around thirty four hundred square
0 B:  My God, they come down here and those houses, that, that look the colonial
0 A:  Yeah.
0 not be given in the home.
0 B:  Oh.
0 there were not, there was no choice.
1 he will subscribe to the magazine of it.
1 A:  Yeah, I understand.
0 pick out what you want.
1 A:  Read a-, [laughter] read those cartoons in the NEW YORKER,
1 A:  Really, and GOLF DIGEST (( )) [laughter].
0 back issue of NEWSWEEK, but --
1 A:  That's right, people can get them and their children do craft projects.
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  Oh yeah.
1 A:  things zipping by your face.
1 A:  I just thought I was going to throw up,
0 B:  Well --
1 B:  Oh, god [laughter].
1 A:  There is like a big pile.  These are the magazines we are going to read,
1 A:  sometime.  
1 A:  It's a mess.
1 A:  No, nor am I. 
1 [throat_clearing] excuse me, and, uh, one of her pies was auctioned for fifty
0 bake so much now that my children are grown, but I do enjoy baking and I guess
0 A:  in a day's time [/laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  and there, you know, she is, she must have found some jewels,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Right.
1 A:  It was terrible.  I, I could have used that recipe, it sounds like.
1 B:  No, I have not seen it.
0 seventies, and even, and even then he, [sigh] he had a very good case for the
0 what, you know, everyone is thinking, now that, [sigh] they just got turned
0 A:  Uh, uh-huh.
0 "Well I am going for my,
0 B:  Absolutely.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 most critical,
0 B:  #You are# preserving your heritage and your future there.  
0 B:  Yeah, there's a series, well, it was a trilogy with four books [laughter].
0 let me go look at his name here.  It's the one that wrote, uh, um, I can't
0 A:  I always like,
1 A:  I [laughter] I thought it was a little much, but it was kind of fun.
1 A:  He hasn't written much in a while, but when he does, I'm pretty happy with
1 A:  the next night because you forgot what you've read.
0 B:  Yes, I saw that one.
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 said well, when are you, when are you supposed to start crying, you know
0 [laughter].
1 A:  we've had to kind of educate each other [laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  From New Jersey.
1 so he'll turn up the radio real loud and say, "Who's this singing?"
1 B:  Yeah.  I'm, I'm, I'm being envious.
1 B:  sport figures too, so I'm a real flunky [laughter].
1 likes SANTANA and some kind of off the wall ones, so,
0 B:  Yes.
1 A:  And the cats are, they might be as old.  I'm not sure  [laughter].
0 A:  Yes.
0 B:  definitely different [laughter].
1 in that litter were just crazy.  I mean, they were all over the place,
1 A:  And, uh, they're not [laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 immature.
0 B:  Really, really.
0 A:  Uh, we are to discuss air pollution and, uh, what we think the causes are.
1 B:  [Noise] [laughter].
1 B:  [/Child_yelling].  Yes [laughter].
0 A:  Do you have, do you watch children or do you,
1 B:  That's right, that's right.  
0 B:  -- you know, and as we educate them individually what they can do, [/music]
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  {Muffled talking to child}.  Just a minute and I'll turn it up.  I'll turn
0 A:  Oh, that's wonderful.
0 A:  Uh, you send in, uh, uh, fifty dollars, you're going to pay twenty,
0 B:  -- and they should pay through next month, and, and we're both just looking
0 A:  Uh-huh, {faint} uh-huh.  
0 A:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.  Uh, I went to a seminar, they said don't ever use your
1 A:  I ((said)) for crying out loud, if I had the money to in-, you know,
1 one talks about, you know, uh, you buy nine by twelve frames, you don't buy
0 A:  Yeah.  I would, I would be total loss.
0 A:  Right [breathing].
0 England,
1 A:  Let's see, how many cups equal that?
0 flavors, put it in plastic shoe boxes and, and, and then sell them for x
1 snowball fight,
1 A:  So he brought them into the bathroom to wash them off [breathing].
1 B:  But, I do not teach them to do dancing or anything [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah, that's what one of my,
0 B:  Oh.
0 B:  Uh, that's great.
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
1 going to have children.  And we are, like well, when we start getting rid of
0 B:  That's why I had the miniature Schnauzers, cause they do not shed.
0 B:  Yeah, and that's how my are.  And then, you know, even though they are
1 saying I want a baby and Jackie is saying I want a puppy [laughter].
1 B:  and when they, they fight like kids,
0 B:  And, uh, it was, it was quite an experience.  And I wanted to, the other
0 B:  We rent a pavilion and, [inhaling] and do that and that's usually works out
0 B:  you know, but I feel closer to them, because I kind of grew up with them.
0 the next one, in Scottsdale, Arizona,
0 can also get a bad education at public or private, you know, I --
0 to someone else in room} and, uh, um, where was I at?  Oh, go-, in going to
0 A:  I'll be darned. 
0 was put together so,
0 school, but it's for, um, there's a, a literary jour-, well, not a literary
0 A:  # and # religion and all that. 
0 B:  -- in small colleges,
1 B:  Boy, you really lift me up to a different,
0 B:  Um, all of his direct descendants, descendants have now died [breathing] 
1 B:  # whatever # you've got to carry for any distance.  I always,
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 fortune, and then had to come back home for their reunion, so that,
1 doing.  "Well, I don't know, I haven't,
0 offspring but one --
0 @B:  Uh, well, I sing.
0 A:  Uh-huh. 
0 accompany yourself,
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  [Noise] I'm sorry?
0 B:  Oh, a little bit.
0 A:  -- and it was, it's really, it's sort of a weird little anonymous feeling
1 B:  ((I'll say)).
0 A:  Right.  That's {faint},
1 B:  Yeah.  I guess that's what retirement is all about.
1 B:  have watched, you know.
1 A:  Anyway [laughter],
1 [laughter].
0 B:  [Noise] {banging}.
0 it, because her effort would have really, um, really, uh, been a good example
0 A:  -- and they use styrofoam plates, when they wouldn't,
1 B:  Oh, my God, you do everything.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 I've never thought about a cruise.  It's so funny.
1 word, he, he, he's chomping at the bit.
0 B:  So that will be hard to stay away from.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  Well, that, that's really great.  Uh,
0 B:  Well characteristically, in some, in the local elections --
0 B:  Even something so simple as getting a street light in between --
0 problem --
0 B:  No, I'm talking about national campaigns.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  American-, Americans like me and whether I night, uh, uh, not, I think that
0 B:  Oh, I guess so, go by ear,
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  -- you're still going to be above, on top, and I, you now --
0 A:  Yes.  Seems that way, yeah, that the higher they get, the, you know, at
1 that's a lot of luck and a lot of gambling, and not a, not a whole lot of work
0 B:  -- and then the more I think about it, the more I think, I'm paying in to
0 A:  -- taxes than to live in, oh, England or, um, some countries where so much
1 can only be a nurse [laughter].
1 A:  I thought, Golly, you're seven years old and you're already opinionated
1 [laughter].
0 those were the only two professions folks seemed to do, it wasn't necessarily
0 years, it's just, uh, I, I love to teach, I don't want to have to deal with
1 about Cinderella, um, met, worked her way to this ball, and then [laughter].
1 little niece gets up there she can [laughter].
0 money at least, you know, earmarked for that.
1 B:  -- and sometimes my daughter will come along on her little bicycle.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  -- you can d-, have variety by putting your feet higher or lower, by
0 A:  That's a good idea, but I do have my ride, we have a stationary bicycle and
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  You too.  Good day.
0 A:  So, that, that's always sounds good to me, um,
0 A:  So, feels like I'm often in the kitchen.
0 A:  But a time consuming place.
0 um, tomato sauce in it, and, and I like to just add picante sauce to get the
0 B:  Uh, yeah.
1 difference,
0 B:  -- I don't think mine know either.  In fact, we've been getting lunch meat
0 grandmother, you know --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  But, um, they have various organized, they have generally a volleyball net
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 smaller, uh, they may be able to, to give the resources that's needed to, uh,
0 see about getting parents more involved, with, try to, to come up with more
0 are, and I think this is happening some around the country in terms of, um,
1 work for the year, it doesn't have all these extra things on it that
0 B:  is have to use for repairs.
0 A:  -- for the under three year olds --
0 A:  Yeah, yeah --
0 B:  Uh, and she,
0 A:  Oh, my goodness.
1 B:  please don't do that to me.  So I knew it was time to go back to work.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Well, we, I've never, never listened.  I mean, I've, I've probably heard
0 country himself --
0 A:  -- but, uh, I, you know, I, I really enjoy listening to his music.
1 drug test employees and they don't like it, then they should not be employed
0 B:  Yeah, I, I especially agree that if it's an area where they could cause
1 A:  And so, and there was a lot of action, lot of swashbuckling type of thing
1 B:  -- it tells you that you're a miracle and there's nobody like you, and
1 their problems [laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter]  That doesn't happen [laughter].
0 B:  Isn't that the truth [laughter].  That's exactly the truth.
1 A:  Yeah [laughter].
1 B:  and I probably re-, rebelled against it.
0 just got in the habit, I guess.  And, you know, never have gotten out of it.
1 B:  But, uh, just, you know, like, about like the government runs.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  I know. #Right.#
0 A:  Oh, isn't that,
0 B:  in nineteen sixty.  
1 B:  Right, right.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  you are in school.
0 B:  and I have got,
0 B:  #Bye-bye.#
0 A:  So what would,
1 now but (( )) [laughter].
1 B:  #It# helps quite a bit.
1 interested in the Winter [laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter]  Right.
0 B:  (( )) for seafood, just all around good eating seafood, Vincent's has some
1 B:  Oh, yeah.
1 B:  It depends on whether they got comp the meal or not.
0 Angela.  Uh, I think what is really important, uh, [noise] of course, salary
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  -- on that, but you know, for something like that, it-, that's just as bad
0 A:  So, that's it that's okay, my, that phone is ringing to an empty desk and
1 B:  to myself than make my five year old [laughter] go in and do it.
0 B:  Right.
0 they have quite a few rooms, and, uh, so we, we will usually rent one for about
0 all that, and, uh, I think it's going to cost us, per couple, about three
0 won a trip to the Bahamas, but did not get to take it on our honeymoon time,
0 B:  Okay.
1 A:  I am so sorry to keep you on hold.
0 A:  [Talking].
0 trouble, you want to hire the smartest, crookedest, lawyer you can find.
0 A:  [Noise].
0 A:  [Talking].
1 A:  Well, I am too.
0 A:  Are you, uh, one who feels like you have, have benefited from the change
1 A:  Yes, [laughter] oh, yes, I think so.
1 B:  Uh, I guess there's more women in, uh, what would be classified as a man's
0 A:  So, I was in a lot of classes where, uh, there, I was either the only
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 in church, uh, where more and more women are becoming ministers.
0 B:  Yeah, yeah.
1 A:  No, probably not.  Huh-uh.
0 real, you know I can not tell you why I feel this way, but I just would rather
1 B:  I do not see that they should stop her.  I personally would not want to
0 A:  um, I have, you know, I have, having a daughter who has gone into this,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  Yeah.  Well,
0 A:  Yeah, well, 
0 A:  that's good, that's good, because, uh, I,
0 stick and do it.
0 would.
0 B:  I did very much the same thing until my boys got into high school and said
0 A:  Right,
0 B:  Right.
0 B:  in society has changed.  And, you know, medical reports tell us that
0 B:  They,
0 B:  they are intellectual cripples,
0 five.  And I used to spend a lot of time with her and her kids.  We used to go
1 theater and we are the only adults, you know,
0 perfect mothers, she, it's just one of those kind of deals, she spends a lot
1 A:  Right.
0 later and then they are very set in their ways and there are activities that
1 A:  #Right, or you do not know# any better, or there's nothing available
1 of situation there, she had brothers and sisters that kind of like pushed her
0 B:  [Inhaling] Yeah, it was not the best situation, but, yeah.
0 B:  Okay, do you ha-, 
0 A:  Yeah, well ((hopefully)) [noise] I can do some consulting work at home.
0 B:  Oh,
0 B:  #that would be wonderful, right.#
0 A:  I would not want her to be into a, in a large day care situation so
0 B:  day care system.  And they took infants starting at six weeks, and they
0 B:  Right, right.  That's nice when, uh, I, my, I have three grandchildren,
0 the biggest city in the state.
0 live in the home, but then maybe they will have a stroke or something and, and
0 A:  Do you like to boat?
1 A:  [/Laughter] Yeah, I think we would kill each other [laughter].
0 B:  Oh, really.
1 at it and until I got around to the for sale sign.
0 about getting the, the slip so that if after work, if I wanted to go out and
1 A:  Yeah, you know, hang out the gone fishing sign [laughter].
1 B:  Right [laughter].
0 good weather this weekend so we can go [breathing].
1 B:  Oh, I see.  Oh, the big company.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Right.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 a, uh, uh, in a secretarial position.  She did rise to the highest position
0 A:  Well, that's wonderful.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 their husbands.
0 B:  They can find things to do and mess around,
1 retired from the state.
0 A:  Right.
0 B:  [Throat_clearing] But, it's something that's really [inhaling] hard to
0 speedy trial.  But, the victim does not have the right, does not have the same
0 abundantly clear that they did it.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 kill cops [TV].
0 A:  This is Marilyn Spivey, Richardson, Texas.  
0 A:  Usually about movie stars or famous people.  
1 time I had to, uh, subscribe for a year, it was like seventy-five dollars
0 B:  -- because seventy-five dollars for a magazine -- 
1 A:  -- I don't have that many benefits per se [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah.  I mean, I don't, you know, I don't, I know my wife, uh, I think she
0 since, uh, he keeps real busy without having to, to, uh,
0 you don't work for somebody that's got enough clout to, to, uh, uh, give you,
1 B:  Well, don't bother [laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter] That always seems to happen when you rent them, you know
1 B:  Right.  
0 we don't get out as much as we like.  We have two children, so we [laughter]
0 A:  Uh, generally try to stay in the at least P G range.  
0 prosecutor in the, a woman prosecutor in there is murdered --
1 A:  I don't know, we've watched WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S any number of times
0 [laughter].
0 other expenses --
0 A:  Oh, my [laughter].  
0 B:  [Laughter] You like Fords, huh.
1 A:  Uh-huh.  Well, my husband's, my husband got to chose, choose the make
1 A:  -- and, before they started chopping it up and making it look ugly, so I,
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 A:  They don't ever show them getting in and out.  
1 A:  And I thought, that's the part I'd like to see [laughter],
0 A:  is them getting in or out.  
0 B:  No --  
1 help too much.
0 A:  How many inches do you average a year?  
0 B:  Uh-uh.
1 A:  -- refinery blowing up or something like that.  
1 B:  -- lot, yeah, it's not that far.  
1 back they had all the limousines for such good buys.
1 A:  But those aren't that new.  I mean I have some that were way old
0 A:  Oh, yeah, yeah, they're very nice.
1 A:  -- and the wind caught my skirt and he said, when have you got on
1 [laughter].
1 not find any hose anywhere so,
1 comes to clothes [laughter].
1 B:  -- and should certainly get rid of probably all of them [laughter],
1 A:  Yeah, but you'd have to go back to Illinois to have a garage sale
1 A:  Yeah, so.  My husband's kind of whiny.  He says, well I like the shorter
1 ones [laughter].
1 then maybe I'll feel so bad that I can't wear them now,
0 A:  [Laughter]. 
1 B:  and I'll do something about it [laughter].  But, so far [laughter],
0 they send their baby clothes and all their stuff down here to me, and I'm
0 A:  Yeah, definitely.  
1 in March.  It was early March he bought them and they are demolished.
0 B:  for his tennis shoes.  
1 be wearing them in ten years [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah [laughter].  
0 within the, in the society --
0 B:  Yeah, I, I, I think, I agree with you there.  
0 and I think if I look back fifty or a hundred years I'd say, you know, back
0 even if they have, you know, physically ruined themselves.
0 fifties, but nowadays, there's so much on TV where, where people seem to have
0 B:  Right.  
1 because [laughter],
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 clubs?
0 B:  Is, is this Pat I'm talking to now?  
0 B:  No, you try to layer, so you can add or, or --  
0 whether she would allow slacks and she said she doesn't have a problem with
0 B:  -- and you have to have the color for that particular school if you, if you
0 think about, well, the dress code they have for the kids, you know.  Are they
0 B:  -- that aren't.  
1 B:  And they'll just wear your common, ordinary, you know, whatever you might
0 B:  -- might say,  
0 B:  Yeah, but I doubt that that would come ab-, --
1 A:  Well, thank you for being home [laughter].  
0 interaction between, uh, students.  I knew everybody within my dorm --
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  Yeah [laughter]. 
0 A:  No, I'll bet not.  
0 A:  Oh, yeah.  
0 A:  -- yeah.  I don't know, I'm not sure if they go, I mean to twelve new
1 also being helpful [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah, it vacuums it up and back up into the air several times and chops it
1 A:  And I don't really care if I get paid for it, I just don't want it
1 [laughter], 
0 B:  I'm familiar with Plano.  I visited once or twice.  
1 B:  Well, then he should come to U T.  
0 else.  That was the one and only thing I could really afford other than a
1 B:  Uh, [lipsmack] what she talks about a lot is theater which I think is
0 one --
0 know what, we just now are seeing the effects of day care on --
0 A:  No, but like Connecticut takes eight hours to drive home and, uh, it's too
0 A:  Bounce?  
1 B:  [Laughter] No.  
0 B:  Ooh, how nice.  
1 have a dog if I had a dog [laughter].
1 A:  -- my wife said uh-huh.  No, no. 
0 moved in it was so bad that we had to go ahead and, uh, recarpet the entire
1 B:  And when they pulled the carpeting up, it was so bad on the back.
0 was that good for them or not.
1 A:  And he is constantly chasing the kids and,  
0 A:  Right.  
0 B:  Right.  
0 A:  That could be causing a problem.  
0 A:  What kind of school is that?  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 for, uh, this late into, uh, well, it's not really late into the summer, but
0 getting rained out.
1 A:  You probably know where that is because I know where Pontiac is, so, uh,
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  Okay.  
0 almost like you were living on an island there was so much water around where
1 laughing, going yeah, right, that's a good practical joke, ha ha.
1 A:  [Laughter] And if it's cold, we say, okay, out you go.  
0 B:  When he was in high school, so, uh, he creates a real problem for people
0 atmosphere to it than --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Well, I don't know whether anybody can for a whole,  
1 been, you know, back since the glory days or before the glory days.
0 B:  That's the one that,  
0 clowns --
0 also that oil man that, uh, that, uh, owns, that oilman and his partners that
1 B:  Yeah, of course, I, you know, I won't throw anything back [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah, [laughter], Oh, god.  Pun, pun.  And, uh, we'd go out, he liked to go
0 just follow the channel and when it's, you know, middle July through late
1 B:  -- because it's sort of dangerous, but, I love it.  I love it. 
0 B:  So, anyway, but, have you been, uh, salt water fishing?  
0 he's still around occasionally.  But, uh, he's, he's twenty-two and it's his
0 A:  Oh, my.  
0 B:  That's true.  
0 B:  Wrong side of the fence.  
1 B:  What a hoot.  
1 B:  -- I don't care what you serve.
0 B:  What kind of things would you put on it?
1 A:  -- yeah, that's me too.  
0 right.
0 B:  Did you do the diagnosis, or was it just an assumption that that's probably
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 it normally.
0 @A:  [Beep]  We're to discuss a little bit about the process of putting
0 B:  Uh, yeah, although she is, uh, in pretty good health and she's, doesn't
1 A:  #That your taste# buds goes back to the sweet taste.
0 House I think out in Arlington, something like that.
0 you know, go to the dining room --
0 without so much change and oh, I wish everybody could go that direction rather
0 but it's my home and I don't want to leave it.  
1 B:  -- #there's nobody there.  Don't you want to be# close to me? [Laughter].
0 A:  #Do# you actually sew some clothes for them and that sort of #stuff or have
0 B:  I think it's, uh, would every-, everyone grow up and mature and, and
0 B:  -- then in the larger cities.
0 A:  Oh.
0 B:  #And I cannot imagine# being able to do much of anything when they don't
0 glad to see, [noise] because it, it said that, you know, yes but for those
1 what's wrong with the public, public schools.  It's what's wrong with families
0 A:  #And# I was talking to somebody that teaches [noise] in a middle school and
1 B:  If they have a rapport with their counselor.  Now if they don't, 
1 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  We're the only country in the world that does.
1 A:  -- it's something like that, it's worded.  And, uh, [lipsmack] I don't
0 A:  -- they left this morning for, uh, England.
0 B:  -- I think, anyway. #To not,#
0 B:  Right. #Right. Yeah.#
0 B:  #Oh my goodness.#
1 of that in preschool and then when they hit kindergarten, you know, it's like
0 A:  -- #I've, I've not# tried them to see how effective they #are but# --
0 with Emily.  I, from the time she started first grade, I wanted her out in
0 freezes, I don't know how long you've been here [noise].
0 A:  #Yeah.#  [Lipsmack]. 
0 A:  #Yeah.#
1 two bushes on the ends of the house that I think are ugly, they lived
0 A:  isn't it?
0 A:  #I,# I think the {pause}, I think that's pretty much what we have decided.
1 people can't see and hear too much [laughter].
1 B:  -- #if he'd# just go out there and do it [laughter].
0 hamsters that he was trying to get rid of.
0 A:  [Lipsmack] We've, uh, we've tried various things.  We, you know, 
0 A:  And, uh, for a variety of reasons but, the, the dog was just all mouth and
0 B:  And, uh, so w-, I had always wanted a Golden Retriever.  I just think
1 [laughter].
1 B:  -- #or when he wants,# when he's in the mood for a little affection
0 A:  Oh.
1 escaped with his life but he was found.
0 A:  Uh-huh [noise].
1 A:  Uh-huh.  We have four, so, and two of them are teenage boys, #so 
0 A:  no this is just re-, it is really good and, and one thing that's good is it
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Yeah, because I, when I make this chicken casserole I, it, it makes a
1 B:  -- stuff anyway.  Mine are bouncing off the walls normally anyway.
0 B:  -- instead of the cakes and the candies and -- 
1 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  No, that's unusual.   
0 B:  S-, social changes,
0 A:  [Noise] Think we can handle that?
1 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  Uh, I was hoping that you would but, #oh,#
1 A:  #Oh# [laughter].
0 A:  -- or something like that.  There are a lot of two parent, um, [noise]
0 B:  #Huh.  It,#
0 and more families going to it because of the problems in the schools.  [noise]
0 B:  #Yeah.#
1 B:  That's right. [laughter].
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 A:  [Lipsmack]  And I really, I, I don't think I'm prejudiced since I've had
0 that much, you just kind of put up with whatever happened and she could never
1 A:  Yeah.
1 B:  We can't talk about that can we?  [laughter]  We went to #Gulf# --
1 A:  #[Laughter] No, I# guess not [laughter].
1 A:  Well, a variety.  I, I like to go sometimes without them and,
0 A:  So, uh, [lipsmack] #I guess# --
1 B:  Ethiopian, we've had Ethiopian.  And, uh, not in Plano of #course
0 you've got say four or something like that.  It's very expensive to go out to
0 A:  Oh, yeah. [laughter]  Well, [throat_clearing] #how we [laughter]#  --
0 season well they've never had it --
0 A:  Yeah.  Seems like if they had imme-, more immediate, uh, consequences to
1 B:  I think it would concern me even more if I had children, which I don't,
1 but [laughter] if I had children I wouldn't know where to raise them
1 [laughter] --
1 personal, you know, I never met anybody that I knew had anything to do
0 B:  Oh, my goodness.
1 B:  And, my face hurt so bad,
0 were great.
0 B:  -- you know.  Just, they just carried it off, 
0 A:  And, [breathing] I don't know who was here or whether Jay called a friend
1 playing ball but you can -- 
1 you'll be out there waterskiing, I can just see it #now.#
0 enjoying it but some of the different things we're doing, uh --
0 was the last movie we had #seen# --
1 A:  Yeah.  That's at, that one won't your sides [laughter]. 
0 A:  Right.
0 B:  Oh, I love it [laughter].
1 even look at the menu #[laughter]#.
0 A:  -- and, uh, the time we went the prime rib was really good.
0 A:  I haven't either, uh, one place, and I've only been there for lunch, but,
0 B:  [Throat_clearing].
1 and salad so we could make room for the dessert #[laughter],# 
1 changed it about three times,
0 choice and I think it was a little bit of, we visited there and she visited
0 A:  -- into the profession, and maybe that's some of it takes Dad's pull to
1 A:  But, uh, I don't have any kids who want to become engineers.
0 immaterial if she enjoys it and is good at it.  And, uh, so far, I think she
0 B:  Oh, I know it.
0 A:  Okay. {very faintly} Um,
0 A:  Yes.
1 course, would be solar or, uh, [static] fusion, or something clean
0 B:  [/Static].
0 problems as well.
0 B:  to live on and we got to take care of it.
0 many of them didn't, people didn't care.  You know, it's whatever, you know,
1 A:  Oh.
0 B:  I probably will never have to worry about that [/laughter].
1 B:  Oh gosh, what a shame [laughter].
1 B:  Slight chance, you think.
0 B:  #Well, they're# doing a lot over in Europe --
1 A:  Oh, good #[laughter] we can have a debate.#
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  Right.
0 B:  #And trying# to rehabilitate him, too, and, #you know,#
0 the most sense.
1 it's for you.
1 they're not allowed to test for [noise],
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].
0 B:  And I'm, I'm down in the, the central, but I don't know how familiar you
0 A: [Baby] Yeah.  It's kind of at a dangerous level here.  People hauling
1 A:  Um {pause}.  So do I [laughter].
0 with {pause} (( )).
0 B:  #I mean, uh, uh,# from a quality standpoint, that's not, I mean, just
1 over there.  That's why a lot get in trouble [laughter] --
1 A:  #Oh,# gosh, Chris Xeros [laughter].
1 B:  Yeah, we've heard them and, liked, liked it real well, of course
1 [laughter] [children].
0 B:  -- sing along kind but -- 
0 throughout both conversations in dialogue and monologue.
1 born and, uh, she had some problems and, uh, I was horrified from beginning to
0 what?  And I, I tried for fifteen minutes to find the doctor and he was
1 unavailable.  So, [sigh] uh, I've had some bad experiences with it
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  -- not necessarily of doctors that are good or not.
1 B:  [Laughter] I mean, you could [laughter], you could really be in serious
1 B:  Oh, [laughter] they,
0 developed in the sixties and seventies.
0 up paper cartons, the wood [breathing], uh, racks which now, basically, you
1 sufficient,
1 A:  Yes [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh, just suits.
0 A:  And, you know, facing that situation, it's, it's quite a dilemma.
0 such that, uh, that she did not have the problem with, she was very well aware
0 care --
0 the, the, what everything would hinge upon.
1 children.
0 A:  Yeah.  But, uh, I, I, I think that, you know, we always, uh, I mean, I've,
0 A:  As you know, they, they're allowed to come on site, the federaldes, anytime
0 A:  The Sherman facility, we are still in the, closer too, but still have a
1 the stuff, everything we do over here.
1 A:  Yeah.  I'm familiar with that one.
1 A:  Yeah.
1 money for TI, here in the last ten years,
0 B:  Freon's, uh, Freon is in a closed circuit. 
1 B:  as soon as we get it, I, I'll see that you get a bottle of it.
1 A:  You, you probably did less harm than what the water would have done though
1 taps now because you never know what's going to come out, you know [laughter].
0 stories about, well, the government okayed this.  And then all of a sudden you
0 A:  Yeah. 
0 A:  That, that may, tha-,
0 B:  also.  
1 but seems to work for me [breathing] [laughter].
1 B:  Oh, my [laughter].
1 A:  Needless to say, my sweaters have been hung in the closet for quite a while
1 @@B:  Uh-huh.  I guess we've discussed everything there is about clothing
1 don't want to do it for like three weeks at a time, that's for sure
1 night,
1 shore and they were, and the, and the smell of, that was kind of gross but
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  Okay.
1 B:  Oh.
0 A:  [Laughter] Can you,
0 this second, this one that you raised.
0 B:  if your defining it in terms of information gone even if it's something
0 B:  And then I would feel not only invaded in the sense that someone had
1 B:  There are better fields to pick. 
0 A:  [Laughter]  Yeah.  
0 B:  Yeah.  I think what we ne-, what, uh, the government, the state government
0 poor, you know, socioeconomic areas, homes, and it's just like, they always
1 B:  Yeah.  Right. 
1 everybody is a hunter so [laughter],
1 dad's given it to me, or someone's given me one, so I'm probably real illegal.
0 get that, so,
0 A:  come into your house, or something.
1 and do, well that would be technically illegal, it would be harassment.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 about the same,
1 it, like I said, it's been thirteen years since we've really priced a
1 house so [laughter],
0 little changes occasionally, so, uh.
0 B:  But, uh, I guess, I, I'm a little encouraged with home prices.
0 B:  Uh-huh. Yeah, I got a call yesterday too.  This is a different subject
1 A:  Uh, there's really a lot, isn't there.
0 A:  I think there really is.
0 B:  Yes, I know because, I know when my mother was a, you know, going into
0 B:  Or, a lot of women I know now and my, uh, one of my supervisors, when she
0 too.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 when we come walking up to the front door.
0 home.
0 A:  Oh, yeah.
1 B:  I mean, the comparison made between New Kids On The Block with the Beatles
0 music.  Which is, you know, using all these natural forms of music and, 
0 B:  drawing from a lot of different sources and making, you know, a synthesis
0 arrangement to, uh, we're going to have to get off.
0 B:  Um, it takes some, it takes some dedication to do it, but it, it works out
0 right now, so.
0 then, uh, you know and then when, if we need it we wait until it, it's expired
1 A:  Yeah, well my husband is real good at using them.
1 B:  Yes, that's real easy to do, I have to watch it.  
1 that anytime he pop up that credit card [laughter],
1 [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah, I'll second that.
0 handy.
0 B:  Huh-uh, no, no, I think it's become too much of an everyday life here.
0 A:  or, Denison, rather.
0 B:  Oh.
1 B:  Wonderful touch tone telephone there.
1 B:  Um, well I hate to, yes, I do [laughter].
0 SUPERVISOR SHOULD KNOW.
1 how to manage engineers [laughter].
0 King.  That's a little, little heavy for me.
0 the jails for them or, you know, it's just that, it seems like the automatic
0 prison, then he's available for parole.  If it's life and a day, then he's not
0 doing that.
1 well he didn't have any blacks, uh, you know, from his neck of the woods.
1 dig through boxes in a dress.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 ((culottes)) all you want but these were shorts.  That's all they were.
1 turn into shorts, you know.
0 A:  Oh, my God.
0 A:  I coul-, I couldn't afford to work there.
1 A:  Isn't that funny.
1 know.
1 make, uh-huh [laughter].
0 A:  Everything blooming, and, and the weather.  
1 so.  Had a lot of people out at work, you know, for fishing, and, and uh,
0 B:  [Laughter].
1 time.
1 B:  Well, I thought I heard a little Tennessee in there somewhere.
0 A:  Taking, taking care of uh, I'm actually in the air division, and we
1 B:  No, no, no, not that kind of music [laughter].
1 A:  Why, have you heard of them?
0 A:  like, like they hit each other with their shoulders,
0 like really heavy metal.
0 A:  Yeah, especially, uh, oh God, what is it, A Night At The Opera?  Don't they
1 A:  Hey, but I bet you were out there with your bell bottomed pants,
1 B:  [Laughter]  Well, that's true [laughter].
0 ===========================================================================
0 from there. 
0 training, actually who was from there.
1 B:  Yeah,  I don't know fifty-one stars on this flag wouldn't look too
0 you gave them a free election, they would vote for the, Will you, uh, did
0 the United States, uh, do we go in and, and prevail and, and, uh, in other
0 B:  and the English mysteries.
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  No, no that's true.  I was just thinking that today, he did,
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, he does.
0 B:  But, uh, but otherwise you know we, uh, with P B S and so forth.  And I,
0 B:  That was about a, the Interior Minister, it was a comedy, 
1 B:  I guess not.  
0 B:  How did I hear about it?  Well I work, you know, they are gathering a data
0 that so much was lost in the translation, particularly since most of the
0 very foreign in a certain sense, although I had grown up in California  and so
0 athletic.  Enjoying a th-, you know, uh, anything dealing with sports.
0 like if it's something that you have to do, you know,
0 B:  Yeah, yeah.  But, I'm like you, I also, um, like to participate in, uh,
0 B:  it was, it was quite a lot of fun.
1 A:  Well, you're talking to someone from California where it's often swimming
1 B:  I'm sorry.  
0 must be something to some of them.  And, uh,
0 sure)) if it was a meditation practice, or if it was, you know, which is
0 healthy in China and they don't do very much vigorous exercise at all.  But,
0 [laughter], you know,
1 A:  Yes [laughter].
0 B:  so, uh, which, you know, you get, uh, an influx of a lot of people from
0 A:  Oh [laughter].
1 New Hampshire you always have that kind of weather. 
1 B:  Well that was one reason why I figured that I could stand Lubbock, Texas.
0 B:  And, uh, and of course when Spring and everything came out again, uh, it
0 B:  Oh, my goodness.
0 B:  Well now was that expected though, 
0 A:  Well you know they also did a very good job of, of shoveling the, the
0 used to have in New England and we used to enjoy that.  We had, uh, we had two
0 A:  [Laughter] Yeah, yeah, everything is relative, I guess.
1 computer with training wheels.
0 B:  That is, that can be a, a w-, big workout.
1 B:  Yeah, I, I enjoy volleyball, I'm just not very good at it,
0 A:  But, that was a, for anoth-, you know, I was in another state then.
1 A:  Huh-uh, right. 
1 B:  You can't just wear your sweats and an old tee-shirt. 
1 A:  No, [laughter] you can't. 
1 husband, he's got a pretty good deal.  I go out and buy all his clothes
1 B:  [Laughter] and now that is.
0 B:  You know. 
0 drink their booze and shoot their drugs and when they run out of money, they
0 A:  Huh-uh. 
1 B:  Oh, I love it.    
1 B:  That's my case also.  I've got a new born and there's just no time.
0 B:  Mine, sort of, he looks at the pattern and he says how do you get that from
1 B:  And just into everything, so there's not a spare moment.  
1 going to be in high school before I get finished.
0 B:  [Laughter] On that, uh --  
0 B:  Yes, my, uh, grandmother, um, made us a couple of quilts for the baby, and
0 tree's blooming so we have very warm weather here right now,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  the night before and [noise].  And we've had, you know, say that they're
1 B:  um, it's beautiful the next day.
0 B:  because they're hardly ever accurate. 
1 B:  that, uh, we've had, you know, twelve car pile ups [noise], 
0 ever watch Dan Rather,
0 A:  ((Um)).
0 A:  because that's all that's all there is here.
1 B:  things of that nature.  I'm probably the best customer. 
1 B:  Well, you know, kids, kids [laughter].
0 B:  Right.
0 people.
1 but I've enjoyed talking with you.
0 eggs, and that's even more difficult.  It's really hard to find the products
0 adds so much to meals, you know, when you put cheese on something or,
0 B:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.
1 B:  So, when you prepare a meal, like say on Thanksgiving, what do you?
0 A:  Right, right. 
1 A:  So then, you wake up one morning and you are in war with somebody you don't
0 B:  Not bad, not bad.  What's your name?
0 year go get, ((get)) their #P H D.#
1 everyone's a,#
0 B:  I didn't realize that.
0 B:  Yeah.  I've seen, well I've seen them around #anyway. You know (( )).#
0 A:  And that's certainly one of the reasons that I'm sure that they've begun
0 A:  And I disagree with you.  I don't think it's the worst investment,
0 and he's two now, in sixteen years when he's ready to go to college, this is
0 A:  if they did,
0 B:  Yes, uh-huh.  That's, that's fairly recent, I don't know, how recent, but
1 I guess I would, I am sure I would take the lethal injection.
0 B:  I think, we hope that it will be, you know, some sort of determ-, deterrent
1 never am, like, like everybody else.
1 A:  Shoot them. 
0 like C C C was run by the army and in effect,
0 B:  Yeah, really there could be, um, some scandals involved, if, you know, it
1 A:  Yeah.  I think, uh, oh, boy [laughter]. 
1 it's easy to do once you find a elephant foot.
0 you know, I think it was in a Hispanic area, they wanted to start like a club
1 A:  Oh, boy.  Those are two very active ages [laughter].
0 B:  [Laughter] Yeah. 
1 B:  Yes.  Everybody in the country is preapproved, I think. 
0 uh, I really don't know the answer, [laughter], uh, I would sort of like to,
1 A:  don't seem to have the same problem [laughter].  
0 B:  Yeah, I wouldn't have thought so either.
0 B:  Yeah, I've, uh, worked with a couple of people who have owned, uh, various
0 B:  #Bye-bye.#
0 =============================================================================
0 A:  Oh, yeah, yeah.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  Really great, 
1 A:  Horses?  
0 people that come out that will vote for him, you know.
0 A:  Uh-huh {very faint}.   
0 A:  Wonder because football,
1 A:  Beats me.  I mean, I know Yankees have won a lot games [laughter].
0 B:  Threw it away [laughter].
0 B:  And do you know anything about that new stadium, have you seen all those
0 B:  I know, but they try every year and every year they get thrown out.  It's
1 A:  I wish I could [laughter].
1 B:  You don't even know who to payoff, huh?  [laughter].
1 A:  No.  I had them walk out of my class and not say their name anything,
0 B:  I know.
1 B:  Ugh, that's about, uh, ten too many.
1 A:  Don't, don't ask me [laughter].
0 B:  Okay.
0 A:  Sure, sure something like the way you'd do, uh, um, bricks around a window,
0 Gainesville to the east and the lights of Wichita Falls to the west,
0 B:  -- about thirty feet tall and it's almost straight up, so we'll nestle the
0 A:  The, the temperature change is too drastic like that it should come a
0 of the back end of them.
0 just have it fixed real quick right before the inspection.
0 and it takes you directly downtown, but they don't have enough of them and
1 B:  You can see it here.  I mean you can just see it hanging in the air
1 @@B:  But they really haven't.  So, well, what do we do?  Should we hang up
0 [laughter]?
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Um, I guess in Colorado, I'm trying to think of the place we went was in
0 B:  #It's pretty,# it's kind of cold to, to camp on the coast.
0 about stuff getting wet.
1 B:  Yeah. He was probably in the cafeteria when he thought of it [laughter].
0 B:  Well, frankly, I think school teachers ought to get about ten times what
1 B:  I mean, my agree is absolutely worthless. 
0 you know, I mean, my, my, supervisor level is like practically zero.  I run
0 of like a big wok.
0 um, maybe put in a little bit of, um garlic and ginger, uh, beforehand.  That
1 B:  You wouldn't believe it, we even raised chickens [laughter].
1 you're fixing dinner.
1 A:  That's right, you should be careful [laughter].  That's pretty funny.
0 ===========================================================================
0 dysfunctional handicap, you know, that the person were just unable to
0 A:  Huh-uh. So you're saying,
1 B:  You know, I can go fishing just about anywhere I want to go but,
1 bought, uh, I bought a boat, but I bought a ski boat.
1 B:  I've got my fishing tackle in the trunk of my car, so if the urge ever
0 B:  Yeah.  I watch, I, I take, uh, have just started taking the, that bass,
0 Texas Fisherman, they uh, they cover a pretty broad range of fishing, but they
0 B:  So you don't get a lot of Texas, you know, in particular,
1 B:  Just see what it does [laughter]. 
1 things but I haven't done it in so long that I probably wouldn't remember how
1 A:  I probably won't make anything beyond this blanket [laughter].
0 B:  Oh.
1 A:  And so I do little news reports and things.  It's not as exciting as it
1 never get to it.
1 B:  So, unless the kids are asleep I don't get, usually get much done either
1 B:  Not ((quite)) [laughter].
0 ready to fall asleep.
1 A:  And, uh, she wanted me to bring it in, she's going to play it on Saturday
1 so [laughter] that would be great,
0 B:  Make your hobby into a business, that would be pretty good, huh?
1 love to do.
0 B:  Did you have training in singing when you were,
0 @@A:  Yes, okay that's my mother on the other line, I need to go,
1 the house but,
0 the, the law.  The law says there's no difference so more women are, are
1 consider a more woman kind of business.  I call it like the three C -s,
0 like you don't find too many women, uh, really involved with technology.
1 clothing store is much preferred,
1 values that, that you're brought up with.
1 up with.
0 your,
0 on, on groceries and that's about it.  But the thing, uh, also is that, you
0 B:  She is trying to start he-, her own business where she does that full time.
0 jars and usually give them away because I, there is no way that I can eat all
0 early or later.  It seems like all I got was,
1 when a good time for zucchini is.
0 A:  Uh, what do you think individuals could do, or society could do to
0 health problems,
0 B:  There's not really a lot here in Raleigh.  Uh, once in a while we'll get
1 thing anyway [laughter].
0 B:  Uh it doesn't, some people say, uh, they, they like to watch the changing
0 A:  No, the other topics.  I got one topic, they said talk about the Middle
1 East situ-, [talking] well,
1 conversation, anyway.
0 tested, also, several times and, uh, in fact, it has always come up negative, I
0 random.
1 A:  It took them awhile to find me.
0 B:  And I just knew I was being photographed, you know [laughter]. I'm glad I
0 they can do.  That it's an invasion of privacy, but I don't particularly care
0 B:  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you would be strongly into denial.
0 B:  Yeah, just something like that for, you know, uh, end of the evening type
0 A:  [Throat_clearing].
1 it's pretty cute.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 something,
1 B:  and one of those is on, it kind of inspires me.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Uh-huh, I'm not that hung up to most things.
0 A:  [Laughter] See what we can come up with.  Do you like the, uh, news shows,
1 B:  They even had somebody portraying Ed Sullivan, and it was very, very funny.
0 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  Huh.
0 they've been through now, and, uh, they've been, they've been under, under the
0 B:  They sure are.  Wouldn't it be something to have a World Series between
0 A:  Oh, there sure is and, uh, that, I mean they really are.  Uh, now
0 A:  We hadn't, you know, like I said, we, I don't even guess they've even
0 B:  Uh-huh, yeah if you have young, young children, you know, they, they get a
1 B:  It's like all right, whose corners is this one.
0 A:  Oh man.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  It was like we can't take it back you've got, we've got to keep it now.
1 our chest and it's like oh, your claws need trimming.
1 B:  And she's so ugly.
0 A:  Oh I know it's like the end of the world.
1 A:  It wouldn't have, no that would be a problem [laughter].
1 ripped up and down at the bottom he said, of course I love cats.
0 B:  Right.
1 go camping.
1 of course I slipped and fell in.
0 people, they're going into the towns and raiding garbage cans and stuff and
1 B:  Oh, how awful [laughter].
0 B:  Oh, you need to see that.  
0 B:  uh, who can do most phenomenal things and everyone feels they are
0 B:  Again the relationship, uh, between the two, uh, that, uh, never would
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, you take care up there and, uh, let's hear it for the
1 B:  Okay, well, go ahead, I'll let you start.
0 off and, and maybe send them in their places or get out of it some other way
0 physically wrong with you, then you're drafted.  It doesn't matter how rich
0 B:  Uh-huh, that's true.
0 do public service all over the country.
1 A:  Well, it's real pretty, it's like a swamp.
0 B:  Oh yeah, it is neat to get other people.  Especially since you got other,
1 so probably knock T I profits margin way down.
0 B:  that recycles everything imaginable but, as far as, uh, trash pick up and
0 A:  Huh-uh.
0 B:  Exactly right, well that's very good [laughter].
1 B:  I think I'll have to try that.  That's really cute.
1 B:  You saved me some money.
0 we have two different trash cans at your desk.  You have one for paper and one
0 less, but it wears off.
0 A:  I cried when the horse got killed and when the wolf got killed [laughter].
0 B:  Gu-, at least one.
0 anything about having a gun.  It's no big deal.
0 though, I.
0 to a game and, uh, pay for that type of entertainment.
0 for the game just because they are diverse and they bring a different
0 B:  Yeah, I'm kind of interested how this new, uh, league's going to, summer
0 a Chicago, uh, paper and of course, that's where our main coverage as far as
1 burned to the ground [laughter].
0 that now they are coming over, over our homes.
0 B:  I haven't read that.
0 keen on installing something like that.
0 A:  You, you use, um, like your first couple of years you use personal
0 have to do any statistical data it can be easily represented on a, on a P C.
0 B:  Uh, I graduated in eighty-six.
0 A:  it was the last year to, to put all your punch cards in.
1 B:  Oh, that would be great.
0 B:  Wow.
0 B:  Yeah, hers probably would be the best.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 them.  They don't really come out like they do in New Orleans, up here, I
0 B:  But, uh, and then we, uh, as far as the camping part of that, we just drag
0 like to do a float trip down, uh, oh, like Big Bend area or something like
1 A:  Ugh, I would need that before I could teach them [laughter].
0 ===========================================================================
0 important to, uh, me today would probably be, uh, something to do with
0 forward to, you know, what are you going to do when you retire,
0 B:  So that they can pick and chose what they like, uh, you know, there,
0 to the company, essentially the total cost to the company fits, you know,
0 B:  Uh, I believe that you can, that you can change, well maybe not from year
0 if you had, uh, if you had children.  I guess if you're of child bearing age
0 would have to be.  Just based on the sheer numbers of, uh, the disparity of,
0 A:  No doubt.
0 B:  Right, they couldn't, yeah they couldn't, yeah, it's true they, Saddam
0 agreed to support the Kurds, which is something they've never done before and,
1 A:  Yeah, when he played DANNY BOY it just almost brought,
1 B:  my husband says I'm getting old [laughter]. 
0 A:  or anything.  
0 tongue and can't say it, Helen something.
0 B:  of tire-, get tir-, tired of every other song being Alabama on the,
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Well, those things were big and thick weren't they? 
0 B:  You could kill somebody with them [laughter]. 
1 B:  -- i-, i-, kept and yo-, it just didn't vegetate your mind like television
1 B:  Uh, I think they should do it.  
0 interview and I went in for my interview and then right there he said, okay go
0 know --
0 A:  You know, and if you're taking medication from a doctor, that's no big deal
0 either.
0 A:  Yeah.  
0 B:  Oh, really?  
1 nothing you can do because they not drunk.
0 A:  kill people from being drunk.  
0 @B:  [Children] Uh, I think that, uh, really it wouldn't hurt most of
0 several and I think they've gotten a lot out of it.
0 need demolishing, or need fixing up, so --
0 course, you probably belong to [breathing] one or more professional
1 well, who's going to get ahold of this and think, um, that's a nice place to
0 B:  And not only that, it, it opens you to {pause} [ringing] phone
0 shut off the phone --
1 B:  -- so she'll, you know, why are you cutting off the phone,
0 A:  Right.  
1 A:  Huh [laughter].  
1 B:  As soon as we determine what we're going to do with Contel after we bought
0 B:  No, I haven't.  
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 A:  nineteen twenties Ireland -- 
0 B:  Um.  
0 Uh, now I think the change that I've seen as much as anything is one where
0 has been dramatically demonstrated with this war, especially compared with,
0 A:  Right.  
0 child,
0 time.
1 A:  [Laughter] No kids,
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  hours a week or five percent of their salary,
0 A:  They, they,
1 B:  [Sniffing].
1 A:  Long way, uh,
0 A:  And we just had a really big ice storm.  And, basically, half the trees in,
0 B:  Oh my God, #how do they live?#
0 Uh, [lipsmack]
1 A:  You know.  We just got our phone back today, uh,
0 A:  You know. Twenty-five, I don't know.  Twenty-five percent?  {speaker A asks
0 B:  Right.
1 know I could never afford to go visit a kid in Guatemala.
0 B:  [Sniffing].
1 B:  I wish I could do something like that, but [breathing] #I can't, so
0 You know, it, it's taking time, but --
0 A:  The rest will just have to come with time.
0 B:  Oh, ok-, yeah,  
1 A:  I think they just put them in jail and let them think about it [laughter].
1 B:  Is it?  I, I'm from, I've lived in Ohio and I didn't realize that
0 never forget it because she was seven months pregnant and he hit her,
1 should keep them waiting in jail and let, having us pay for it for twenty
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  I guess if you stay out of trouble, you don't have you worry about it, but
0 B:  Yeah [child].
0 country that could use some help and I think that before we expend all our
1 A:  there's even less interest there.  They're more for, I g-,
0 A:  When they were growing up we di-, we were out in the middle of a desert,
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  And, uh, it, that takes so much time away from your kids.
0 walk.
0 A:  brought that up at T I, I don't know how many times to, to, uh, have a
0 B:  Sure, {very faint}, sure.   
1 so funny.
1 trunk?
1 A:  And he said, a what?  And I said, a tire tool.   
1 @@B:  Yeah, right.  [laughter].  Like oil, [laughter] or oil [laughter].
1 and went to Notre Dame, where he decided he was going to have a good time
1 B:  At least start saving.   
1 A:  Hey, I'm headed there [laughter].   
0 A:  That's true.   
1 B:  Tried to have fun.   
1 B:  Well, wonder if, if this advice was, uh, worth following for, uh, choosing
1 a school [laughter].
0 B:  that is true.  Based on where, where you come from and all, 
0 talk shows, and then I usually end up flipping through C N N and HEADLINE NEWS
0 were, so.
0 A:  Uh, oh.
1 B:  Yes, oh, of course.
1 B:  Yeah, I knew you weren't the Tar Heels.  
1 that I take off under tables when I'm in a conference room,
0 A:  Okay.
0 wears jeans, and if not, what the, what the thing is, that they're wearing
0 little watches --
0 you're, you know, you're driving out and you're driving back home and it's
0 A:  Well, in our, I live in a very small community outside of the Dallas area,
0 B:  I, uh, saw an article the other day in Ann Landers that talked about how
0 A:  Well, I guess we'll just say good-bye then.
0 anything else.
0 A:  Never have seen it.
1 A:  Well, I can go even better than that, I've never seen DALLAS either
0 B:  I mean an, and then, oh, I, I tell you, that just did it for me right
1 knocked off.
1 B:  Good.
1 B:  Um, boy, that is, that is good [throat_clearing].
1 THIRTY SOMETHING and TWIN PEAKS, uh, and I just discovered that they, uh, have
1 B:  Oh really, yeah.
0 quite a lot of TWIN PEAK conversation.
0 A:  -- and they'd also just have odd things.  Like they walk into a bank vault,
1 A:  lying on the [laughter] table in the bank vault.
1 in the coffee pot [laughter].
1 if it were.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Oh, it sure is --
0 @@A:  Well, I've enjoyed talking to you.
1 more.
0 A:  Well, it, uh, i-, must be, I think it's a matter of degree, and, uh --
0 B:  And the other point someone made at one, one time was that if someone is
0 A:  Huh.
1 B:  Oh, okay.  My only other standard menu, I guess, is, uh, Thanksgiving
0 was a harder crust.  And some of the hoagies were cooked.  Like the
0 A:  They're supposed to bring you good luck or good, or good finances.
1 A:  I'll eat it as long as I'm not around while it's being cooked.
0 have to have a plate.
1 A:  I think so too.
1 they, they had, they had three kinds of potatoes.
1 A:  They had mashed potatoes, they had French fries, and they had au gratin.
1 A:  That's overdoing it.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  Like I really need the cholesterol.
0 B:  Denny C-, uh, uh, Louisville University.  The university gives him a
1 B:  An-, I can name a few more, I just can't think of their names,
0 don't know the correct word for it.
0 A:  Oh, really?
0 take issue with it is that if, if we went to, if there was an opportunity for
1 A:  Yeah, I know.  
0 A:  [Laughter] I don't know, no telling, I don't know.  And, you know, at
1 A:  I know it, I know it [laughter].
1 think they have to do that because most everybody passes.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  But, uh,
0 B:  Oh, okay.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Yeah, yeah, they couldn't cover my hourly rate [laughter].
0 B:  I do have one plant here, it's been hanging out for a while, but I think
0 B:  Yeah, I've got a, a. well, my roses are on the west side of the house.  I
1 B:  -- because it's right by their entryway.  And they, they wanted roses.  So
0 A:  Right.  We've got a few things, too.  It's hard to tell if they'll come
0 B:  Yeah, a lot of people do, but then again, there are a lot who do nothing.
0 will go on and survive.
0 A:  Oh.
0 B:  Right.  Just have to take care of them and water them, uh, so they get
1 can,
1 B:  Okay.
1 you know, cooking and, uh, preparing meals and stuff.  So, uh, but as far as
0 there --
0 a lot, because I was just so used to twelve.
0 about getting money.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 @B:  Uh, well, to tell you the truth, my husband does most of the work.
1 that's, I think that's about all they make [laughter].
1 A:  I've been having it treated.  And it makes it grow much faster.  Uh,
0 A:  And that's, it gets too long, then it, uh, starts bunching up underneath
0 don't know.#
0 a pile in the back yard [laughter].  It, it doesn't decompose.  I guess I 
1 B:  It's not composting.
1 B:  Uh-huh, oh [laughter],
1 B:  Hey, that'd work for me, let me tell you [laughter].
0 A:  Oh, yeah.
0 B:  And that I couldn't watch, and, but, you know, you could tell when it was
1 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  And this is about nineteen sixty-four, I believe, or something like that,
1 player more so than he is, because he really played the part good.
0 A:  Oh, I've seen that. Yes.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  But I think a lot of kids, it's funny, get the same kind of fears, like
1 A:  Die, oh [laughter].  Oh [sigh].
1 B:  Oh, yeah {imitating a crying child}.  She's so nice, she can't die
1 people like us, you know [laughter].
0 A:  Yes.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 mine, but the other day I got one about fishing and I thought, oh, my.
1 B:  Say, well, I know it takes a fishing pole and some bait, and some water
1 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  so, [laughter] it just, 
0 B:  It's seventy-five down there?
0 B:  a doctor's visit or anything like that I was just able to take some
0 and it breaks away.
1 A:  I sure hope we, I sure hope we don't get a hard freeze, 
0 B:  Jeez.   
0 B:  Uh-huh.    
1 like ((God)),
0 information from a drug dealer and did so by placing a hot, a hot iron on his
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  -- and I usually come away thinking, no I really don't like this show
1 [laughter].
0 up with expectations too high or whatever,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  -- and then they don't, and they, but they could make them better, you 
0 A:  Okay, well, I'm from the (( )).
0 kind of stress.  Different kinds of situations because just being in the work
0 place is different from being at home, but at home you still have work to do,
0 term, will occur to allow you to handle what we've put ourselves through.
1 A:  Yeah.  The subject would die before they had to run all the tests that they
1 meal, 
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  -- I have the kids clamoring for my attention now, 
1 A:  [Radio] [Talking] Uh, being a former drug user [laughter].
0 B:  Oh.
0 A:  -- Modern Tire.  And, uh, it's also a retreading plant, and that's where
1 time because I kept waiting for my name to came, come up, you know,
1 A:  You're kidding [laughter].
1 times, I think.  And I told him he's obviously in a high risk group [laughter].
0 A:  I mean, you know, there's all kinds of drawbacks, much less the drug
1 A:  And I just, you know, went, Oh, where?  [Laughter].
1 A:  No, I wouldn't think so [laughter].
1 A:  Oh, we got to do that this summer.  We're dreading it.
0 B:  Uh.
0 it just makes me feel a whole lot better to come home, an you know, o-, the
0 B:  Yeah, yeah, we do.  It, uh, it sometimes works and it sometimes doesn't.
0 A:  They, they do get, uh, priv-, privileges like that.  But I'm not sure how
0 would be the, um, stablest thing to do.
0 B:  it's really kind of comical.
0 they still really are third world country.  And they haven't, uh, caught up,
1 B:  So, I don't know.  [music] And it's also a long way away [laughter].
0 A:  Right.  That is a good distance.
0 A:  Right, okay.
0 you know, it's an American commonwealth, they really don't have to advertise
0 fish au gratin, I was going to make some, uh, like fish chunks and dip it in
1 B:  Oh, definitely.  I think better even than, than other kinds of food
0 B:  Right, that's true.  Or even have you ever seen where they, they'll take a
0 A:  Yeah, ther-, you know, if you get a sweet strawberry they're much better,
1 B:  Yeah. 
0 A:  baseball and he was playing, 
0 A:  So, they had, uh, they're having actually a special on today and they were
0 sponsors [noise],
1 B:  and I know that the coach there gets a million dollars when he quits,
1 B:  You know, yeah, I don't know if it would be dishonest or honest though
0 A:  Is the?  Well, that's good.   
0 B:  #Uh,# I, I keep up from time to time, but what the, the argument is that, uh,
0 auditorium now.  And it, they've got several different, uh, areas where
0 A:   Yeah, just a little bit of begging will [laughter],   
1 B:   Uh, for a good, right.  They're, the nickels, the dimes or
1 because her generation, will just, like, jump in bed with anybody
0 B:   You know, five years ago -- 
0 A:   Uh-huh.
1 A:   Yeah [laughter].  I guess that's why I thought of it
0 B:  Oh, I bet.  
0 A:  You know, and so,  
0 A:   -- uh, on a general basis, and we travel a lot so I enjoy
1 B:   Uh-huh.
1 magazine every now and then [laughter].  
1 B:   But I don't do that anymore.  Because, uh, they're doing lousy
1 [laughter].  I don't know.
0 A:   Well, the Rangers are a few games behind Minnesota, but if we
0 B:   How many games out are they?  
1 number was.  
1 we just, uh, if you get run out of things to say, then you say
0 A:  [Breathing] Well, I, I kind of, I thought, well, that, that might be
1 the person that receives it, so it's kind of a, a unfair advantage,
0 perspective.  
1 A:   [Laughter]. 
0 don't, but, uh, this one, uh, I was trying to remember back.  It
0 cases where everybody knows details whether it's through the
0 B:   Well,  
0 they're trying, they're working their way back into the house.  
1 are as smart.  
1 B:   That's right.  
0 A:   -- and the influence, uh, with the men.  
0 B:   Uh-huh.  
0 what's a real man and a real woman.  
0 A:   [Laughter] Okay.  
0 A:   Huh.
0 B:   And he was like out for everybody's, you know, to get
0 B:   I haven't seen any of the new ones, though.  
1 this.  
0 A:   Still trying to think of something else I've seen but,  
1 B:  Okay, uh, yeah we have fish.  That's it [laughter].
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 And I h-, I too-, I must have taken thirty or forty of them at a time back to
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  But, uh, then I, I went for a while where, uh, while I was pregnant with
0 A:  Yeah, someday if I move out into the country [noise], and I get like a, you
0 A:   -- or, uh, cheese or anything that smells terrible [laughter].  
0 A:   Uh-huh.  
0 company, for entertaining.  Did you have anything in mind that, uh, 
0 hand for about a week and then all of a sudden it dawned on me,
0 wait, is this totally imitation and then I found out, I went back
0 some of these new things they're making that you really don't know
0 there?  It's real,  
0 B:   It was, they're very good, very good.  And that's the one
1 time and you have to rack your brain,  
1 [laughter].  
0 you said with the things that the airlines and, and such.  It's,
1 B:   Yeah.  
0 B:   That is, because, well, and I worked for a dentist and that's,
0 a even larger lake and we had [noise] a variety of boats at our
0 pushed him away and got out of the water a, a while and, and, uh,
0 A:   Sure.  
0 A:   Exactly [noise].  
0 B:   Well, we haven't traveled outside the United States that much. 
0 B:   Oh, wonderful.  
0 B:   So you travel a lot.  
0 B:   Uh-huh.  
1 Disneyworld sounds [laughter] a little bit better.  
0 A:   -- that's my fav-, that's my favorite [laughter] becau-,   
0 million going to the N E A, but a hundred and seventy million's a bit and it's
1 in it and not be embarrassed [laughter].
1 thought.
0 A:  Yeah, #uh-huh.#  
0 B:  It's that high?  
0 really a problem and I know that.  But then, I have other views to it.
1 season or,   
0 freezing them up overnight, then they can save electricity during
1 office,  
1 A:   [Laughter]. 
0 B:  Although I don't hunt personally.  
1 A:  Gosh, I've never done that [laughter].  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  That's neat.  
1 A:  -- like you said, hunted, or, you know, maybe if I [laughter],
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 because of your sights --
1 B:  I don't know.  I, I guess there's never a, an answer.  Nobody ever asks
1 B:   And what about you?  
1 B:   #Yeah, that's all right.#  I like THE PRICE IS RIGHT, too.  
0 B:   No, huh-uh.  
0 A:   Huh [beep].  Do you ever watch, uh, SUNDAY COMICS?  
1 A:   Uh-huh.  
1 A:   Huh.  
0 A:   Where you are from?  
0 is it reasonable or,
1 A:   And people think, are impressed by, wow [laughter].  
1 A:   Uh-huh.  Huh.  Uh, trying to think of some other shows.  Do
0 B:   Yeah [laughter].  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Yeah.  
1 A:  So walking seems to be a good solution for me and it doesn't cost anything
0 only does it help my body, but I think it helps my mind --
0 A:  Yep.  
1 B:  Well, I think that's great [lipsmack].  Well, that's what I do for
0 [breathing] doing my, uh, toppers for my window applications -- 
0 B:   [Laughter] Well, my sister is the seamstress of the two of us. 
1 right on the lake.  And Cleveland isn't all as bad as what you've
0 B:   Oh, what's that,  
0 regain your enthusiasm for it -- 
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:   Okay, right.  
0 street for sale right now.  
0 whatever.  
1 sixty, she's just not happy,
1 have to get up and get out in it, I don't like it either [laughter].
0 A:  -- becau-, as it gets cooler.  
0 humidity, that part I don't care about.
1 A:  Yes.  I do not like the humid-, [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah, I think so too.  I know our grass needs mowing twice as
0 I don't like that --
0 hot in August, that there really isn't a lot the children can do
1 melting,
0 B:  So you eat all your meals out.
1 B:  See, uh, uh, yeah, I, I, 
1 B:  #dining experience.#
1 over my hands to go buy --
0 B:  Have you painted anything recently.
1 don't know,
0 B:  No, it was j-, it was really easy, I just, like, what, we had
1 B:  Well, yeah, if you just, you know we didn't tape anything,
0 B:  Why?  Just because you'd be afraid to do it, or have you done
0 B:  So now I feel like if I ever buy a house, I can probably
1 B:  Wow, it really is,
0 B:  Well, we don't really get together, I, I would love to, and
0 yourself out.
0 B:  Wow, well that sounds pretty,
0 B:  -- uh, and seeing our friends, because we moved to Texas about two years
1 outlet store.
0 A:  That's what,
0 at Thanksgiving this year, so.
0 A:  -- and we pulled in just as it hit.
0 A:  -- her popcorn.  Now this is wonderful.
0 A:  You're, so you're higher, but you get out of towners on that
0 A:  -- uh, sales tax, which is good.
1 love to have [laughter].
1 B:  But it, it, we-, if I remember back to when I had a child, they give you a
0 B:  Oh.
1 A:  Uh-huh.
1 take the other one, and it was busy.  And they woke up all during the night
1 it right now [laughter],
0 do you do with them.  And they told me, they look through them
1 It,
1 spend more than, 
1 A:  -- and so everybody's saying, you're kidding,
0 miles on it --
0 B:  [Laughter].  
0 B:  [Throat_clearing]. 
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  -- and then it seems like takes forever to pay that off.
1 A:  Yeah.
0 church, talking about debt and things like that.  It's so, so alluring, and --
0 A:  and all that.  
0 B:  Yep.  Okay.
0 A:  Uh-huh.   
1 A:  Yeah.  Um [laughter].
1 A:  Oh [laughter]. 
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 B:  Oh [laughter].  A tribute background for this conversation. 
0 cleaning as women do and that it won't be your job description instead of your
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  Oh.  
0 B:  in nineteen eighty so I started,
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  you know, we've been rather [laughter] rather #frugal in that.# 
0 A:  Oh, uh-huh.  
0 A:  And it went over so well that they just extended it.  And it's almost, uh,
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 I think of family reunions, my family, like, got together almost every week.
1 that's all the family, so planning our family reunio-, reunion was very easy
0 B:  Well, it sounds like a real nice one.  
1 it was being built, and they'd say just look at this, and you know,
0 A:  Yes.  
0 and just bring the kids ((in)) the family and just come over and, and visit
0 B:   Oh, I do too.  
0 don't, uh, it's a very, very hard decision I think.
0 A:   I think that's right, 
0 B:  and then go from there.  
1 A:  Oh, and I know somebody that lives there, and they never mentioned that
0 an understanding that, uh, I, I said I'll do inside work you do outside work.
1 A:  But I don't like, I don't like it dirty [laughter]. 
0 A:  No, I don't know.  We got the, we got the question and I thought, oh, this
1 is going to be interesting.  Two bits I'll get a man to talk [laughter] to me,
0 I just can't stand to even get out in the, uh, in the dirt [laughter].  Just,
1 for and worked for and when they got in office it was just a
0 B:   Three.  
0 They can come from all over the city, and I don't know why we
0 B:  And she's lived with us for like five years.  So I kind of know how it is
0 don't know.  I mean, I don't, I don't think my parents would but she is
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 time.  And with that kind of a system my daughter just isn't likely to enjoy
0 A:  And I get that, it has recipes in it, and that's my very
0 A:  I understand.
0 B:  A lot of times, if, uh, you know, if I got a chance to sit
1 BEAUTIFUL --
0 A:  Ooh.
0 year.
0 A:  And it was just a real problem.  Uh, so we had to do a bond issue and, and,
0 different, uh, contact, but I've, I've got a, one son that graduated from high
0 know, all day --
1 B:  -- someone gave it to us,
1 A:  Don't have to worry about your whole apartment.
0 B:  The wind will take away a lot of body heat.
0 image that they have to dress.
0 things, in slacks and tennis shoes, and she,
0 more?
1 school, 
1 A:  so, uh, she tells me I dress young, but that's okay (( ))
0 B:  -- how'd you know?
1 A:  -- it's sort of like a version of gumbo [laughter] --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 me.
0 B:  -- just research.
0 A:  -- so I have a lot of external, uh, interests --
0 B:  Yes.
0 B:  -- and, um, and, and I work, uh, downtown and so --
1 and dance --
0 A:  Is it n-, northeast, or,
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Uh, I've never really watched that one.  You know,
0 GROWING PAINS and, uh, what's the other one now, they moved from
1 know --
1 going to be hard work [laughter].
0 B:  Great,
0 A:  Okay, so you're into microwave cooking.
0 uh, especially when people are working just to come home and pop
1 something into the microwave and it be ready in just a few
1 A:  -- and I try not to make so much that it lasts more than that
0 B:  So that's, that's one of my favorite things to make.
0 A:  -- and, uh, it go-, you have to cook very little to go with
0 A:  -- and refrigerate it, you know --
0 B:  I say yes.
1 an exorbitant tax on their cigarettes.
1 B:  Oh, [laughter].
0 A:  Very true.
1 A:  Uh, well,
1 B:  -- which probably is just as well on some [laughter] of them, too.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 B:  Yeah, so that kind of bothered him --
1 one.  That is their very favorite.
0 B:  And we, we did also, we went to see WHAT ABOUT BOB one night,
1 B:  [Laughter] I hope he stays cute --
1 A:  [Laughter] Yeah, me too [laughter].
0 coming out.  My kids want to see RESCUER'S DOWN UNDER --
0 them and rent them --
1 B:  Now, I'm not pregnant, mind you, but this is,
0 not.  You know --
0 A:  You know, budget cookbooks, but --
1 A:  Spaghetti's a pretty [laughter] staple every other week or so 
1 except for, uh, uh, real hard, hard rock,
1 A:  -- so that's about it.
1 talking to caller} Oh, my daughter just fell.
0 B:  Yeah, the heavy metal,
1 A:  Yeah,
1 let's just put it that way,
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Well, I've heard a lot of good things about it.
0 A:  Uh, we, my wife and I went and saw a couple of funny ones. 
1 A:  Uh-huh.
0 the, uh, uh, the one with Jody Foster, did you see it?
1 A:  Uh-huh.  Yeah, I've seen that.  
0 A:  What school are you going to?
1 B:  Um, well, it's a lot of work [laughter].
0 A:  -- and she had to pay out of state tuition --
0 A:  -- so she paid ten times as much because she was out of
0 A:  Yeah.
1 B:  Good for you.  I haven't gotten around to that.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  -- and that was not enjoyment [laughter]. 
0 A:  Yeah, uh, my children and I, uh, I started a thing where I
0 B:  Oh.
1 B:  Well, it's kind of a mixed breed that we got from the Humane Society
0 [laughter].
1 a, uh, oh, it's a real mixture, it's part, uh, Doberman and part Husky
0 from the, uh, Humane Society here in Oklahoma City --
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter] Don't ask me.
0 and, and this type of thing.  I think that they would from the,
0 A:  I have a daughter in middle school, and, uh, I know there
0 A:  -- you know, that the kids are left alone too much, and,
0 B:  Well, he stays with me --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  -- it's coming in a couple of months, but [laughter]. 
1 B:  Well, that sounds like a pretty good project.
1 A:  you do get to stop once in a while when there is a can to rest [laughter],
1 A:  Well, hopefully the bins will be here in this month and that will spur you
1 B:  Thinking about it, anyway [laughter].
1 A:  -- yeah, it's real little.
0 A:  -- we made a higher and a lower --
1 tall [laughter],
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  They're my babies.
1 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Wow.
0 A:  Well, when we first moved here, we moved here from Lubbock --
0 B:  Hi.
1 A:  Oh, what a deal.  
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  Oh.  (( )) [laughter].
1 but she had trouble with its chewing on wood [laughter].
1 feet.
0 B:  One of the things they mentioned was why do you think people have pets?
1 B:  Ooh, that's a big dog.
0 was born, and she would totally ignore this baby, I mean the dog could be
1 A:  -- (( )) and then all of a sudden the dog decided she was okay, but,
0 own thing with all this, uh, what do you call it, uh, breaking up
1 B:  Right.
1 B:  I know it.
1 B:  Right.
1 B:  Yeah, really,
0 A:  Yeah, I think so --
1 B:  -- do we agree, or unless it's not me [laughter].
1 lot of pollution [laughter].
0 brown haze all the time --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Yes, we are, and I think of my daughter and I'm sure you think of your
0 years ago, and of course there's no industry, very little trash, they --
1 the time, depending on my size [laughter].
1 B:  -- or you're on your way up from regular size [laughter] --
0 front --
1 to the hips, so it has to be not the straight up and down levis
0 A:  -- kind of like a sweat suit but made out of that real light
0 B:  -- and be comfortable --
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  Yeah, so I would roll my windows down, it was still a hundred
0 was held accountable so much I had to document and create a paper chase for
0 B:  What child's going to say something --
0 B:  Yes, you wonder what their, you know, how they manage to do
0 B:  Oh, do you?
0 A:  -- to me that's the ideal situation --
0 A:  -- and, uh, I'm pretty picky about my criteria of child care,
0 go back to work, you probably --
0 there, but then --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 take any length of time over.
1 of magazines it seems --
0 B:  Um.
1 A:  We'll wish we'd planted bulbs and pansies already.
0 getting to where they don't make it through the two swings.
0 B:  I go there on business, and I really enjoy getting around and
1 and she said, she said, (( )) there's no trees down there.
0 B:  Yeah.
1 a lot more cats if my boyfriend would let u-, let me [laughter].
1 and I said, You know, this is just a, I, I, I can just hear the dog crying for
1 me now [laughter].
0 A:  I'm wondering what, what camping means to you.
0 recently, but, um, up until, gee, maybe five or six years ago, I
0 summer we'd often go up, um, to the lake country in New York --
0 B:  [Cough].
1 B:  Oh, good grief.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 son is not eager to go and,
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  I think it would be,
1 B:  Yes.
0 A:  Yes.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  That's right.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 talk,
0 of freons that do not release as many C F C -s into the atmosphere --
0 A:  -- so I have this feeling that freon probably will increase in price
0 A:  -- that, uh, those kind of crimes deserve some kind of severe
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 I first turn the T V on, I, I normally go to those, because I pay
0 A:  Yes [laughter].
0 nights, starting fairly late, like I'm talking ten o'clock and
1 B:  I don't believe I'm watching.
1 to, uh, that male syndrome of flicking that channel, so,
1 A:  -- [Laughter] you know, and I'm saying let's move right on
1 on Sunday.
0 flip around, I think the other night we had on, uh, uh, it was a,
1 absolutely sit glued to it, I, you know, 
0 Dakota --
0 B:  I didn't own a winter coat to wear to work until, um, two
1 B:  Oh God,
0 A:   What are your favorite places?  
0 A:   It's not the, the rinky Chinese decorations --
1 husband has just gotten stuck.  
0 because we were coming back Sunday on Central from church and Bob
1 A:   Yes, they are.  
1 A:   Exactly [laughter].  Exactly.   
0 remember his name.  Anyhow it's some,
0 radio commercials -- 
0 B:   Uh-huh, thank you.  
1 A:  because there's just not enough of me to drive them around everywhere.
1 enjoy it.  So if they want to play, they have to play with mom and dad.
1 A:  My daughter and, and I hate camping so we go shopping.  
0 years before it wasn't quite as much, so.
1 something against me would, uh, get shot.  But I'm an old country girl that,
1 produced you've got people like Jeff ((Dollmeyer)) that was [laughter],
1 that it would cover [laughter]. 
1 A:   Then when we actually got out of school and employed and
1 groceries.  And, and lots of times I go over that amount but
0 average. 
0 B:   [Laughter] For us ((it)) always seems to be Christmas time
1 want to pay fifty dollars off of my bills that I have, you know. 
0 three children and that seems to really help, and we probably don't
1 B:   [Laughter]. 
0 A:   Like, I just think that they were expected to be at home more
0 been, uh, in, I hate to use the word again accepted in the position
0 A:   Uh-huh.  
0 B:   Just, just because I don't see it.  I also, I work with a lot
0 @A: Okay.  Uh, what kind of music do you like?  
1 B:  Yeah, I had fun with it.  As, as long as it wasn't too dull and boring
0 everything.
1 A:  Oh, just sing it to me [laughter]. 
0 B:  So I just have to listen to the music and, you know, pick it out.
1 A:  Well, I've been real, um, [baby] thinking I'd love to buy a new car,
1 B:  I, right now my car is terminally ill --
0 and air-conditioning and whatever on it then we did on our brand new one for
0 B:  And if I can find one or a repossession.  
1 A:   Uh, they're all grown up.  
1 B:   Oh [laughter]. 
0 B:   Not quite.  It's a, when they start to crawl they try to climb
0 up on things and -- 
0 my choice for when, when I have children but, but some people don't
0 B:   What?  
1 on when I go to work, I don't think the news usually hits,
1 @@B:   So, what more do we need to discuss [laughter],
1 like the Bahamas and Florida.  I enjoy the beach.  
1 antibeach.  
1 come out of the sand, [laughter] and it tore the ligaments in my
0 A:   Uh-huh.  
1 I'm ma-, 
0 B:   Well, I, I love to go and play around.  At least I always did
0 summer [breathing].  Uh, I don't know we'll have to, to,  
0 B:   Uh-huh.  
1 someplace like that is, you know, gee, Holly would starve to death
0 A:   Yep.  
0 A:   -- you've just got to drive down [laughter] to the, to the
1 to that.
1 A:   Well, I don't know if there's going to be solutions to the
1 B:   [Throat_clearing].  
0 after they're done with the war, a lot of things were no longer put
0 you know, because he was really skittish.  But it was like he knew --
1 the dog would sleep on my side,
1 A:  And when everybody turned we all four of us [laughter] turned in a row
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 situation.  Um, from what I've been hearing is the U S, uh, S R has
1 right now [laughter]. 
0 good weekend.  
1 A:   Uh-huh.  
0 B:   Uh-huh.
1 A:   Yes [laughter].
0 that I wasn't really, you know, used to.  But, you know -- 
0 B:   And, uh, delightful to be outside.   
0 B:   I got in trouble when I was in the service quite a few years
0 A:   That's,
0 eighteen year old that's fixing to get out of high school and go to
1 down right quick.  
1 B:   Oh, yeah.  
0 B:   You should still be [sniffing] [/baby_crying],
0 A:   Everybody should be able to have surgeries that will save
0 B:   -- it would -- 
0 A:   -- that might be one way of weeding out those that are greedy for
1 B:  Yes, yes.  
1 A:  Yeah, [laughter] and get around town [laughter]. 
1 A:  Yeah.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  We seem to do this every, [breathing] every weekend we've been out looking
1 B:  -- so I guess every, every month we don't buy we save more money than we
0 A:   Um, let's see.  
1 believe that we're still wearing shorts, 
0 A:   Okay.  
0 going --
0 B:   I bet it is.  
1 A:   Yeah, and thank God we don't operate our budget, 
1 government [laughter]. 
0 A:   Isn't, that's the way they're thinking these days anyway.  
0 scan through the headlines [laughter] and, 
0 B:   Yeah.  If there's something, you know, that I want to know
0 facts.  
1 B:   Yeah [laughter].  That's --
1 A:   Uh-huh.  My goodness [laughter]. 
0 A:   Well, that's a very interesting food though and when I go out
1 A:   Anyhow [laughter], 
1 B:   Oh, yes.  
0 A:   [Lipsmack] Yeah, yeah.  Wha-,
0 A:   That's I think, uh, I don't know in the short run it would be
0 B:   Yeah.  
1 know.  Gosh.  I think, you know, we should have got him while we
1 [laughter] could --
0 out.  
1 know.  But I just don't think peace is uppermost in their minds
0 B:   Under early bail, you know --
0 should be befitting the crime.  
0 shouldn't be in there.  
0 B:  And, and maybe that's why we have so many people in society who are not,
1 A:  Um, boy, and I can't remember now.  
1 A:  Yeah, and it's like, no, we're not provoking it.  No [laughter].
1 A:  that they used for that and, um,
0 response would be.  I'm a first generation American.  
0 B:   Uh-huh.  
0 A:  did labor.  But what do you think, are you from Texas or,
1 B:   I hate it [groan].
1 B:   [Sniffing]  But anyway,
0 A:   [Laughter]  I know.  We're not supposed to talk but,
1 B:   That's about all I would have to say about exercising anyway. 
0 A:  um, and you have to exercise, I think, for a long period of
1 need that too.  
0 B:   Oh, okay.  So,
0 the winter is over and --
1 B:   [Laughter].  
1 car is just not one of those things I want to spend my time on
1 B:   Yes, one was bad enough.  But I think I got rid of the wrong
1 one [laughter]. 
0 and we can't get it resolved so we go to the jury and we're ask,
0 B:   Well, it, it would amount to, if you're, if you're rich, if
0 A:   [Lipsmack] Uh, there's little basis for comparison.  
1 =========================================================================
0 B:   Right.  
0 so, uh, I really don't have to dress up like y-, you would, like
1 change and we're going to have more Florida type weather up here
0 B:   -- especially when it gets pretty cold.  
0 B:   -- expect women to be in skirts [laughter] -- 
0 B:   Yeah [laughter].  That's right [laughter].  
1 A:   Uh, well, then you, you, you know why they make them then
0 B:  Just, just from a technical point of view, that interests me.  Not to kill
1 A:  This is an eas-, easy subject.  I, I guess I watch too much T V but
1 right now, so {pause} [breathing], I watch a lot of, lot of JEOPARDY and
0 my husband, so [laughter].  We've been MCGYVER fans forever.  I don't know if
1 B:  That's, getting tickets for something like that, it's like trying to, 
0 [laughter], when I was a, a teenager and growing up, that was
1 your,
1 is the Regency Hyatt.  
0 B:   -- air-conditioning was so p-, you know, prevalent --  
1 home and just as we're preparing dinner or eating dinner,
0 A:  Yes.  
0 unoccupied house to rob.
0 A:  Right, well, and sometimes that's, this is just the lead in to a sales
0 B:  How about you?  
0 B:  Where -- 
1 A:  Uh, and I use it all day at work and I put all my personal stuff on it at
0 B:  Oh, okay.   
0 B:  Uh-huh. 
0 A:  Well, I probably do because I've,    
0 A:  Uh-huh.   
0 ago now.  
0 from South Dakota to, uh, Plano, Texas and, uh, that was the thing
0 A:   And then finding someone that satisfies them.  
1 somebody, not so much to baby-sit the kids, but tutor them in
0 B:   Oh, see, and that would have been wonderful.  
0 B:   My wife always wanted to write something down and keep track,
1 B:   -- but we still haven't had a problem paying the rent
1 B:   -- and, yeah.  
0 A:   Yeah, they're all novels.  
1 B:   Uh-huh.  
0 read the book.  
0 A:   That, and, and, uh, even stuff about, not like ghost stories,
0 you know, off the bus or, you know, into the, you know, onto the
0 they're, they're, they died, you know, [laughter] left behind
1 to have confidence in the blood supply?  [Laughter]. 
0 A:   -- that there was an emergency situation, we couldn't give,
1 the last couple years from Utah to Texas and there's so many
1 followed them too much and none of them are our, our alma mater
0 the, the N B A players playing on the Olympic team.  
1 A:   Oh [laughter]. 
1 A:   All right, that's an interesting assortment.  
1 B:   I'm not quite that bad.  
1 A:   Yeah, whittling or [laughter],  
1 few of my little hobby projects have totally bombed, but most
1 B:   And, uh, we kind of help out the people who are really not
1 B:   Uh, no, not quite because I'm not a whole family.  I'm just
0 A:   [Laughter].  
1 A:   Sometimes I think that might not be a bad idea [laughter]. 
0 A:   Well, I, probably, probably.  
0 B:  Well, you know, it's [throat_clearing], it's funny, I mean, I, I know, I,
0 A:  Right.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 around other cats she'll pick a fight real fast.
1 A:  Uh, she adjusted the, that same day.  
1 on,
0 B:  -- lot of hair, and, and odd markings and, I think it, you know, is a Heinz
0 B:  And the cat, with this special, you know, uh, uh, f-, medicine that the vet
1 A:  -- and the whole ten yards and it's just great [laughter].  
1 A:   Oh, no, now I loved having a boat.  
0 B:   First best day is the day you get and the day you get rid of
0 B:   Did you go fishing?  
0 B:   Okay.  
0 B:   Yeah, especial-, we got two kids that are --  
1 A:   Uh, I kept a monthly budget for so long, I don't have one now
0 A:   Like doctor bills [laughter] and things like that.  
0 A:  Well, great.  
1 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  And at that point it was either performing or teaching.  It was, like, oh,
0 A:  I kind of wondered.  
1 A:  -- time music.  
1 @B:   Well, it's kind of a broad subject, uh, I,  
0 A:   You all got a pay raise this year.  
1 jobs [laughter].  
0 B:   -- extended care, that type of thing, so, yes, I'm very
1 stories you hear about them I think are true.  
0 one.  And, you know, the cost of it, the, three thousand dollars
0 come across as well -- 
0 B:   Well, I'll be darned.  
0 B:   -- and, uh, we're convinced that she probably would be better
0 live there.  That's generally our usual summer vacation.
0 B:  Been to Hawaii?  
1 B:  That's great.  
1 B:  Good for you.  You sound like a girl that has it together.
0 that.
0 =========================================================================
1 A:   That's -- 
0 a big difference.  
0 to carry forward your re-, your insurance benefits.  
0 B:   -- that, uh, T I has desired to administer the insurance
0 program.  
0 A:  -- I'm afraid, you know, if you, I don't blame people with today's society
0 B:   I u-, we used to when it was on.  
1 B:   -- #I understand that.#  
1 B:   I do understand that.  No [laughter],   
1 B:   Oh!  [Laughter]. 
0 B:   That's, 
0 B:   Uh-huh.  
1 have that high voice [laughter]. 
1 A:   Yes, it does [laughter].  
0 FRONT?  
0 A:   That's right [laughter].  
0 B:   They're stupid [laughter].  
1 A:   Oh, yeah.  
1 same time.  
1 full three [noise] minutes or not [laughter].  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  In terms of frequency.  Uh, drive by shootings in high schools, and, you
1 B:  Uh, uh, everybody heard about that.  
0 has all the work space he needs.  
0 things.  
1 B:   Uh-huh.  
1 B:   Well,
0 B:   Uh-huh.  
0 B:   Yeah, the,  
1 A:   -- then I was just rolling in the floor, just hilarious.  
1 to a new plot of, of horror.  I, I,  
1 B:   Yeah.  
1 B:   And the little critters that are around.  
0 green, so be it.  
1 years and the economy hasn't been,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  It's monitored and all that.  
1 A:  -- and then I'll drop my subscription for a #year and catch up.#
0 A:  Uh, #you, you think you can# ... 
0 A:  Uh-huh.  #Well, we# ...  
0 A:  I have a friend who does that with her magazines and she keeps a file --
0 B:  But I like, I like those kind of, the women's magazine, I guess they're
1 buy #otherwise.#
0 A:  #Yeah.#  
0 hints on gardening from that.
0 A:  #Oh, yeah.#  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  Yeah, and, course, the proverbial diets and -- 
1 A:  #Right.#  And you -- 
1 B:  Oh, gee.  
0 A:  Jeez, I don't know.  
1 B:  My library, got it all dirty.  
1 B:  [Laughter]  Yes.  Same husband, everything.  
1 [noise].  It was just a recorded message,
1 A:  when they were growing up?  
1 B:  We have [breathing], a girl would like you to spend time with her going
1 A:  That's true, you don't see many leaves around Dallas.  
1 to ice skate or something.
1 know, it's either me or the dog, and he looked at me like, well, you know
1 B:  Oh, anyway, I, I, and I would shut, I would bar the closet doors,
0 B:  -- just for the cat.  
0 A:  Oh. 
1 A:  He's beautiful but it's just one of those concessions,  
1 square and he's just huddled up like, if you'll be nice to me, I won't make
0 B:  Oh, yeah.  
0 A:  In the salt water?
1 off of level one [laughter].
0 on the lake with them skiing and they always took other friends with them and
0 B:  -- it's one activity after another.  I, I'm constantly going back and
1 in other things,
1 that goes on.
0 B:  Oh, yeah.
0 A:  -- and we spend weekends at the, in the country with them -- 
1 B:  Oh, yeah [laughter].  That's true.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 froze up.
0 I s-, 
1 a lot of money so they raised all our taxes.
0 A:  So they're just talk about lowering them but they never do, they just keep
1 accurate.
0 A:  I've thought about the politicians that go in [noise], and, you know, they
1 B:  Yeah, well, obviously if they ever looked at our house or [laughter], 
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Absolutely.  
0 B:  -- probably fine just to compare.
0 our school.
1 school system.
1 B:  But, then, what do I know, [laughter] --
1 A:  My husband loves them [laughter].
1 A:  We, yeah, we have the same thing up here, so we don't deal where they do
1 that [laughter].
0 A:  Well, I can't say we never have.  Now we have, you know, at times, made
0 payments --
1 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Right, so the annual fee.
1 A:  All right.  I've never done it before, so I guess that's all I have to do,
0 A:  They say what aspect are you worried about, well, I think at this point, I
0 A:  -- last year on the, you know, on the school grounds after school.  And the
0 do something terrible,
0 in, in her freshman year of college --
0 @B:  [Breathing]  Well, I think they're kind of ambivalent,
0 B:  Dictator,
0 A:  Well, that's  great, I'm the director of admissions at U T D.
1 B:  Oh, well, good.  Well, I'm glad you let her in [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Well, we'll have to give them a pass key, I guess.  
1 @B:  Uh, I talk about doing that a lot.
0 A:  -- and, uh, we have a tendency not to use cash, we pay
0 B:  Well, that's great.
0 travel a good bit, and have to use my own, uh, credit card, I
0 A:  Um.
0 A:  -- did a lot of tent camping before, uh --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 hour in a different direction.  Here you go three hours in any
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Wonderful.
0 little Halloween talent show tonight, and, [inhaling] I
1 tonight.
0 B:  [Laughter] Oh, gee,
0 A:  Well tell me about it.
1 B:  -- diaper changing [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah, I'll just, 
0 B:  Huh.
0 B:  Oh, that's terrible.
1 A:  Yeah.
1 go, Well why you going to go to that trouble, we have this Coleman stove here.
1 A:  Heat up their water.  And I go, What's wrong with a coffee pot, you know
1 B:  Well, I don't know how much you can learn.
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  Well, I hope it is, 
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 of, uh, uh, couple of lakes in our area that are fil-, just
0 B:  -- and we use worms and shiners, which is pretty much like
1 A:  -- and then the, the, uh, turtles try to eat up all my bait
0 definitely --
0 rather than have it fixed --
0 B:  -- which is --
0 A:  Oh, so how about the Soviet Union.  What do you think's going to happen
0 A:  I know it.
1 time he opens his mouth, he, he just lines up people against him so,
0 B:  very ineffective, I think.
0 do like to stay informed enough to, feel like I halfway vote intelligently,
1 interested in current events.
0 for certain things, you know.
1 minutes and then you feel like you wasted your money, you know [laughter].
1 years ago [laughter].
1 this house I need to get a woman's woman in here to help me out [laughter].
1 [laughter].
0 B:  But, uh.  Okay, I'm going to get us back on magazines.
1 A:  I've heard people are allergic to them or something.
1 B:  I use Lotus a lot just because I like [laughter] using Lotus [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah.  Now we also, course of I use it for, uh, I have some check 
1 don't [laughter].
1 B:  -- it's really not [laughter].
0 Fortune, and,
1 A:  How about that --
1 B:  Oh, it's, it really is, it's like, um, amazing how this turned around
1 [laughter].  She used to hate it and now she loves it.
0 there's this stuff called Wonder Under that you un-, that you
0 A:  Well, I, I kind of have hobby fads, I guess.
0 A:  Okay.
0 A:  Well, that's interesting, music boxes. 
0 A:  Oh, they got blasted, didn't they?  
0 started, and has [/noise] made, just to make the team every year, so,
1 A:  Uh, one's real nice, but the other one is a, well, she's pretty wild.
0 B:  -- it was litter trained --
0 B:  Yeah, they um, ours would still back up to the dog or cat when he got mad
0 thing that I go for down in Dal-, in, uh, Texas.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Um, tell me some about your camping experiences, Carolyn.
0 B:  -- whatever.
0 B:  Uh, we went camping at, uh, Lake Bonham, which is, is pretty
0 B:  Oh, we take little nature hikes and, and, uh, we take along
0 pitch our tents, and it always had to be somewhere near a, a
0 hills, it's flat, and then I was in high school, and, uh, couple
1 B:  The Rocky Mountains are so much, uh, 
1 B:  Have a lot of people trying to do it for me [laughter].
1 the first frost.
0 were at the movies and didn't do it, so I guess I've lost them.  I haven't
1 A:  Yeah, June bugs is what I'd heard them called, 
0 A:  Yeah, uh-huh.
1 every year we learn one more thing that we didn't know before.  Like about
0 A:  [Laughter] Well, put them in a salad, though, and you say, well, I made
0 A:  Right.
1 B:  good job.
1 B:  Yes,
0 the kids just love him.
0 A:  -- not so much on T V, but, you know, for live.
0 B:  -- but I'm talking about the difference from being a mid nineties to low, a
0 A:  Yeah.
1 afford the probably four or five thousand dollars for each item they got.
0 get it charged up again, and try it again.  It rained here all
1 A:  I try not to, uh,
0 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter] Well, I, I try to be as well,
0 A:  [Laughter] Well, I'm not, uh, I, there really isn't any kind of
1 had, so,
1 everything else, but, uh, 
0 A:  My, generally my, my scalp will start, I can feel just the top of my scalp
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter] the weirdest, weirdest sensation, 
1 well, but that, that stuff is, goes one notch beyond, uh, 
0 B:  #and the price.#
0 what the politicians are making, you know, when they're getting a
0 B:  Right, right.  And then when you read about that they're
0 just by how much money you have left over, and all of a sudden, I
0 A:  What do you think would be required, and so forth?
1 A:  She's relatively happy, but she doesn't like the food.
1 B:  Yeah.
0 it, it's a plant that we've had for probably twenty-five years that these --
1 B:  -- and [cough], and I just think it's ugly [laughter].
0 like, well, [laughter].
0 B:  Yes, uh-huh, I think people do.  Yeah.  I don't have a vegetable garden,
1 A:  That is a pretty car.
0 B:  Right.
1 A:  -- and nearly ten thousand dollars of-, less than what the list price was.
0 it, I took it over to Boozier City --
0 B:  Wow.  That's great.  
1 A:  I haven't had anything, 
1 WOMEN, too.
1 I guess some, uh, some rice or something like that.  How does that
0 but, 
0 um, different kinds of foods and new recipes and, um, uh, sometimes
1 gee, I read a lot of books and [laughter], 
0 thing read by now.  
0 B:   No, uh, no.  See Margaret Mitchell died, uh, oh, maybe ten
0 something like that would catch, 
1 what [laughter] I've read,  
1 A:   Oh.  
1 all still take a nap [laughter], 
0 A:   Yeah.  
0 been taking from elderly people, 
0 A:   Okay.  What type of things do you feel would invade your 
1 talking in my room [laughter], 
1 B:   or when people like look through my things in my bedroom 
1 [laughter].
1 B:   Oh, like, s-, yeah, this lady does that to me at work  
1 they stand right over you watching everything you do.
0 B:   But, I-,
1 A:   Let's see, I can't think of anything else --
1 A:   you know.  But,
0 B:   [Laughter]  Yeah, I've traveled quiet a bit, and I've been
1 probably wouldn't bother me.  I'd sleep right through it 
1 [laughter].
1 A:   Well, did you have has name all over them?
0 got a little plane, we flew over it all a-, looked at the buffalo,
1 Eagle, you know or,
0 A:   Was that here in Dallas?
1 B:   You know I think if I had one I'd probably be maxed out 
0 A:   Um, we've been real happy with it.  
0 A:   Yeah.  
0 B:   So you have a probably a more pitched roof than is typical
1 A:   I think that's true.  
0 B:   I mean might as well not even heat and cool it.  
0 areas whe-, where they were doing a lot of, um, manufacturing type
1 A:   Well, okay, that's, that's a very different issue.  
0 B:   -- #anything# you have taken.  But if they had a controlled
0 A:  #uh,# 
0 that's SISTERS.  Have you watched that?
0 attention.  It's been pretty good.  Some,
0 B:  [Lipsmack]  #Yeah.#  
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  Uh-huh, and the kids I have to like drag them out of there too so,
0 [laughter].
0 B:  #Uh-huh.#
0 @B: Where do you golf at?  
1 B:  it depends on which day I go, uh, as to which part is most challenging
0 B:   Uh, well, we can usually play here year around.  Sometimes in
0 A:   [Throat_clearing]  Yeah, that's the problem out here with the
1 long layovers with the winter you almost have to relearn every
0 B:   It's a good game though.  It's very challenging and the reason
0 myself.  
0 there I'd putt well but I, I wouldn't, uh, chip well.  One of the
0 B:   But now you, uh, most of the courses have a, uh, two day
1 B:   Get out my orange golf ball and go out.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Sure.  
0 pump so I replaced that, and, uh, just about a week or two ago I had to pic-,
0 B:  Uh, the only problem I've noticed with them is that when I started working
1 B:  I trust people.  I'll do that.  Or do I keep on going, well, we'll wait and
0 ============================================================================
1 B:  Well, you go first.  You called [laughter]. 
1 B:  I, I, I don't think so.  
0 more habitable to, uh, you know, uh, humans and, uh, yeah, I think I would be
1 A:  Yeah.  
1 A:  Yeah.  
1 live in an apartment complex,
0 B:  Wow.  
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  Oh, dear.
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  #of them which is,# 
1 B:  Right.  
1 schools and playing lots of tennis [laughter].
0 A:   But this is one can of Eagle Brand, a pound of nuts, a pound
0 thousand and it's still in pretty good shape.  Uh, there was a flaw
1 just so small and so low to the ground that I can't see past any
0 A:   ((Ma-, make them all)).  
0 contribute to a fund -- 
0 A:   Yeah.  
1 A:   Wow.  
0 A:   #That's a, that's great.# 
0 B:   [Laughter]. 
0 A:   #[Laughter].# 
1 B:   So, 
0 know, a lot.  
0 B:   Who's that?  
0 the game we sat right on the front row,
1 B:   #I'll almost always# root against them.  
1 A:   [Laughter] (( )).
0 B:   That's okay [laughter].  Well I, you know, I, I was never
0 concerned me because I was hoping letting the people out of prison
0 B:   Uh-huh.  
0 B:   Well, I think, uh, certainly that might have something to do
0 might have felt, uh, had their family been a little closer nit.   
1 =========================================================================
0 A:  #Well, I rented,# we rented, my daughter and her friend, I have teenagers
0 how Hannibal the Cannibal, you know --
1 A:  #Yes.  Yeah, more than (( ))# Washington I'm afraid [laughter]. 
1 B:  #and a lot of them,# 
1 A:  Oh.  
0 B:  Yeah --
0 A:  Oh, yeah, yeah.
1 A:  But you admit your husband does.
0 A:  Isn't that funny?  Huh.
1 A:  Seven year old gives birth to twins.
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  -- elopes with ten ye-, I mean, you know, I just, huh.
0 amazing.
0 doing stuff, and I'm, and --
0 A:  -- I'll just skip over it.
0 then you got to go find somewhere to put it.
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  -- you know, they, but that, you know, plastic just doesn't disintegrate --
0 A:  -- has on gloves.
0 A:  Oh, really.
1 A:  We dec-, we decided just to watch them at home [laughter].
1 does what like some guys are.  I just like to watch, and, and hopefully they
0 I was small.
0 to, um, maintain the lawn and the edging and the flower beds, and it's a lot
0 type people that have those type homes and --
0 A:  Oh, how pretty.
0 A:  I do miss that.  Around here in Plano there are very few trees and it's
0 more of a make a little bit of a mess for a few weeks and if you didn't do
0 A:  Bye-bye.
1 A:  Okay, yeah, I, I,
0 A:  -- uh, even attitudes --
0 B:  Yeah, but they, styles come and go all the time, though.  It's just
0 um, make their, uh, circle and come back again.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 probably, I think, the worst source --
1 B:  Yeah, well my husband drives from here in Arlington to T I on Central
0 A:  -- we don't take, we don't take many magazines.  Occasionally I'll, I'll
0 TONIGHT.
1 more money, or they, you know, or they wouldn't have it on at eleven
1 @@B:  -- but, uh, uh, well, I guess we've exhausted that subject [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah, see, I had, I had surgery in July, so, you talking to, yeah, they got
0 B:  That was just, just for the hospital?
0 that they billed them that much money.
0 B:  Wow.  For a day.
0 A:  Two pints [barking] --
0 B:  The thing about it, you know, now that I've fo-, found, is that we get such
0 A:  Uh-huh.  I've heard an interes-, interesting comment also that, uh, with
0 are also, that we can see global events happening as, as they occur --
1 Is that what I-,
1 A:  [Laughter] So, that's right.
0 and.
0 A:  -- still doing excellent.
0 A:  That's right.
0 =======================================================================
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 really, in my, now I didn't, I, in fact I was just there yesterday but I
0 my own things --
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Well, tell me this, uh, Lowell, do you en-, do you enjoy doing
0 [laughter].
1 A:  -- we probably get yours.
1 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  Forever [laughter].
1 A:  #It took me,# it took me five years.
0 to one, I don't think you're going to have as meaningful of a college
0 that biology class, and they just, they'd look at you like, do I know you? or
1 hard to get individual help [throat_clearing].  It's kind of, you're on your
0 B:  No [laughter].  Very little, I mean, well, like my, for example, I have,
0 waiting to talk to him, and you still didn't get to talk to him anyway.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  How, how do you use it?  [Laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  -- forget it, I don't want that.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 Raleigh all the time.
1 B:  Well, I guess Cadillac.  I guess that's kind of everybody's dream
0 you have a front end accident at such a rate of speed, the e-, the engine will
0 A:  What kind of, uh, [throat_clearing] General Motors cars have
1 still have the Cadillac but, uh,
1 A:  I honestly think I would die before my truck would,
0 =============================================================================
0 A:  Okay, uh, I guess, uh, do you have any, uh, favorite foods?
1 write it down while I'm being creative, and it turns out wonderfully
0 that down.
0 B:  Um, one of the things that I have had a lot of fun doing is collecting
1 B:  Well, me, too, me too,
0 B:  Yeah. So, um, I, I don't know, I'm, I'm really glad that they didn't go to
0 B:  Yeah, yeah.
1 A:  Yeah.  How do you feel about, um, federal services and things?
0 just couldn't believe how many people were going out of their way to fill
0 A:  Okay, and then they recy-, they separate it.
0 B:  [Throat_clearing].
0 B:  Uh-huh.  So tell me your feelings on recycling.  Is it, do you think this
0 B:  Yeah, and phone numbers, and, and that kind of stuff.
0 B:  #Uh-huh.#
0 A:  -- from guns.
0 A:  -- because the criminals going to --
0 A:  -- for those seven days because they're not crazy --
0 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  Yes.
1 only lasted about two years --
0 recent years despite, our total tax burden, despite tax cuts --
1 on.
0 B:  Did you, uh, press one?
1 have as much time as I'd like to re-, sit and read the paper [laughter].  Um,
1 THIRTY-SOMETHING, which of course is not on the air any more unfortunately
0 B:  Uh, yeah, I was going to say, uh, I'LL FLY AWAY, which, uh, I think was
0 A:  Yes, it is, it is, it is wonderful, and especially my eleven year old is
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Yes.  I have eaten there.  Now the only problem, I love the food.  It's a
1 B:  I, I know, I, I'm so sick of McDonalds,
1 B:  Yeah, I know.  They, they, they're just spoiled rotten, but, uh,
0 B:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Well, we don't have any children, but we're going to have one next year
0 B:  -- maybe in the future.  We haven't quite decided if I'm going to, I'm
1 A:  Yeah, that's what my wife does too, um, I mean, she falls asleep
0 favorite.  I don't watch a lot of T V.
0 ROSIE O'NEILL.
0 it is --
1 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  Yeah, me too.
0 A:  -- at, uh, a reduced price --
0 of the tower --
0 B:  For two people, what would an average meal, uh?
0 I plant is the, uh, the Sher-, the Sheraton Hotel --
0 twenty-second floor.
0 that, so we really, very rarely all of us get together --
0 not go, but he goes, um, every, every day, and then he ru-, he's a runner,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 @B:  I have, I was trying to think of the one I went to a couple of weeks ago,
0 B:  Oh.
0 B:  -- really.
1 B:  I like that, too.
0 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  -- or find them re-, road dead.
0 that, they really come down on their prices and, uh, uh, you know, we looked
0 and I realize that probably way back when when the Constitution was written it
1 then I have to probably right up there about an eight [laughter].
0 fight back [laughter] they would have been in big trouble.
1 overthrow the government [laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter] I know, if somebody doesn't do something.
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  -- and stuff, they, they're just, they're more, they're very open.
0 know if they've gotten too big or too popular or, or what.  But you expect,
1 fifty.  You know, you don't buy, find cheap dresses any more, even at Penney's
1 A:  #Well that's true,# that's true --
1 new T V, and it was like three pairs of shoes and, uh, you know,
0 A:  -- and we try to, you know, stay around two hundred and something on them.
0 B:  I am real happy with my car.
0 A:  Now what is it, what car do you.
1 the bee's knees {phonetically spelled} or whatever,
0 B:  -- and for the same price I can get one that does a lot more.
1 @B:  Well, we, uh, remodeled a bathroom.
0 dollars a month but it's for nothing.  I mean --
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  #gets# higher and higher, 
0 company and their, they got disfi-, satisfied and left and decided they wanted
0 have children that are in it?
1 B:  You know, and that just, I don't care how intelligent you are if you be
0 grade.
0 A:  #Right.# 
1 this.
0 B:  [Sniffing]. 
0 or something.  I didn't quite understand it.
0 lower heels.
0 B:  [Static] {very faint}  Uh-huh.  
0 I like br-, bright royal blues and bright reds on, on me.
0 A:  mixed and matched them.  Did you do that?  Different shirts and blouses and
0 A:  #that way# by,  
0 three times a week and got lousy.  I guess that's the best I ever got was
0 it there and, and then, that's according to the hole and it ju-, uh, uh, maybe
0 usually in the eighties or nineties so I'm, I'm not good [laughter].
0 B:  Um, well, sort of yuppie places I guess is probably the best way to
1 B:  Well, that sounds different [laughter]. 
0 B:  Yeah.  The,
1 B:  That sure is.  
1 B:  #Yes, thank you.#  Never mind.  
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  Yes.  
1 the, for the parents of the camping.
0 B:  the boy scouts have their own, you know, ranches --
1 A:  #Oh.# I keep forgetting you are, it's not as cold there as it is here
1 [laughter].
1 when you drive in with the other stuff.  It is a lot more work though
0 B:  Uh, my wife was from Mississippi out in the country and she's, her family
0 B:  Took three days, we camped at a different site each day.  
0 A:  Right, right.  
0 A:  Yeah.  Nobody is perfect.  All you can do is your best and,
1 B:  They usually come on and say something, don't they?  
0 A:  Oh.  
0 a lot also as far as everything from service work and gasoline in
1 like you she uses a credit card,  
1 A:   Yes.  
0 B:   Uh-huh.  Yeah.  
1 A:   Oh, is it really?  
1 A:   Have you tried it yet?  
1 I had my credit cards, I think, up to the limit and I was giving
0 A:   Well, I think that's all I have.  
1 B:  #but I'll tell you what# show I don't like rather than what I do like.
1 A:  You better pull your little paper out and keep going then.  
1 B:  Well, maybe someone will call me again [laughter]. 
1 A:  [Laughter]  Maybe they will.  
0 B:  My T V down.  Okay.  I'm sorry.  
0 A:  And ((you)) (( )) actually have your number or are they just calling a
0 A:  #Oh.# 
0 B:  #and# his writings are wonderful.   
0 A:  Oh.  
0 B:  I tend to read at night.  
1 B:  I bet [laughter]. 
1 B:  Well, I never gave it any thought myself [laughter].
1 B:  Uh-huh.  I don't know I think maybe it's, it should stay on a voluntary
1 let him get a taste of that #for a while [laughter].#
1 A:  But, what do I know, right?   [Laughter]. 
1 from Washington [laughter].
1 A:  Uh, why we're living in Arlington I'm not so sure but, 
0 A:  But like I said I hardly ever get any calls this time.  
1 possibly teach a machine to recognize all the different accents.
1 A:  -- you know.  
1 that's one family, right?  [Laughter].
1 A:  Of course, I think everybody in New Jersey sounds a little bit funny but
1 [laughter],
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  Well, (( )) is [laughter]. 
1 B:  #which# should be, you know, kind of comforting to people who have to have
0 B:  #Well,# 
1 A:  [Laughter]  That makes a lot of sense [laughter].
1 what movies should we rent?
0 B:  There was about, I don't know, twelve, fifteen people in it. 
1 A:  It is, and we just love to sit and watch the, the people golf.  It's, it's
1 B:  Uh, my dad has talked about it and I'm just kind of like, okay, whatever
1 [laughter].
0 know, in the afternoon --
1 holding people up behind me, 
1 B:  and they're going to be laughing and,  
1 [laughter].
0 A:  -- for work is, uh, this year, nineteen ninety-one has been really suit and
1 A:  -- a coat.  
0 A:  So, or, I guess, do you have things like presentations to do or anything
1 A:  Yeah, I guess you see those once in a while.   
1 A:  Okay, so this wasn't necessarily a big conversation, but, I think we, 
0 A:  I am, yes, and I work in the north building.  
1 A:  [Laughter].  
0 B:  [Laughter] FULL HOUSE.  
0 A:  Yeah, I really like that show.  
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  -- really sensationalistic, you know, like what Geraldo used to be.
1 A:  Uh, I was, I am studying nursing but I'm thinking about changing right now
0 B:  Yes, I am.  
0 A:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.  
0 B:  Yes, the three, the three Baltic, uh, republics got out as quickly as they
0 could.
0 A:  And Bush has already given his [laughter] opinion on it, right?
1 get to that point [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah.  
1 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  You don't go out when it's twenty some odd degrees,  
1 work, we didn't necessarily have a lot of things [laughter],
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  And how old was he?  
0 A:  What age would you say, uh, a child should be before you could start
0 B:  Well, I'm, I'm, uh, thirty-one.  
1 A:  -- early fifties [laughter], so you should take my word you're young
1 minutes longer to get to work.
1 A:  Okay.
0 number one is, women wanted to get out of the house.  And the second reason
1 married and, and, I mean, not, not married, sorry, wrong word.
1 A:  -- get them to their piano lessons.  
1 there.
1 B:  [Laughter] I'm thirty, I'm getting gray hairs already [laughter].  
0 B:  Uh, I heard the opposite that, uh, you should take children to see it.
1 A:  [Static]  Oh, I want to see that one.  
0 B:  Oh. 
1 A:  And it, it was a real good movie.  And then we saw BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
1 B:  Oh, I've seen, uh, [lipsmack] previews for them [laughter] on T V, but
1 [laughter] I,
0 and, uh,
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  Yeah.
1 and go to the movies.  We have to [breathing] dig up a baby-sitter and
1 [laughter],
1 A:  Huh.  Well [laughter],  
0 B:  Okay [laughter].  
0 B:   There we go.  
0 B:   Right.  
1 organized.  
0 B:   Yes, that is.  In fact, I, in a, in a magazine, I'd read an
0 A:   It's been mostly my sisters and brothers right now.  
1 A:   I don't know how we'd ever get all of our cousins together.  
0 catching up to do?  
0 A:   No, this was -- 
1 home with them and [breathing] spend some more time with them
1 B:   -- is all the little cards inside.  
0 B:   [Laughter].  
1 B:   And I haven't bought a REDBOOK in a while [noise], so I guess 
0 B:   Mine, too [laughter].  This was it, my last chance [laughter]. 
0 A:   It's entertaining, you know, and, uh, that's, I just, I enjoy
0 A:  No, and I, I, as a matter of fact, I kind of cringed a little bit whenever
0 @A:   Uh-huh.  
0 I don't mind my phone number and address or work phone being given,
1 when I'm charging something, but I, neither am I a person that
1 B:  Not comfortably [laughter].  
1 B:  And so my, my parents couldn't believe it, you went camping [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah.  What kind of places did your parents go to when they camped in the
0 A:  And we said, you know, really, there are other places in the world.
0 B:  Well, there's so many places to go. 
1 B:  If I get invited, maybe, yeah.  
1 forgotten about Tom Landry [laughter].
1 A:  I'm sure. 
1 line.
1 equal in the business world and that they work just as hard or harder
1 they lose it [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  Yeah, it's, it's something that, you know, it's, it's really stirring.  The
1 B:  And I find I don't do it anymore or else I have to watch them on my own.
1 yourself or else,
1 B:  -- won't, they won't come within ten feet of,
1 B:  All the, all the ((ya)) [laughter].  
1 B:  All the sounds of the karate chops flying through the air [laughter].
0 B:  No, I, I,
0 A:  I think so, too. 
0 students like they used to.
0 says.
0 take away what they, what they want and enjoy, then they're going to pay
0 B:  Yes.  
1 January and get my teaching certificate.  I'm going to teach high school.
1 B:  Ooh [laughter], you're brave.  
1 you so.
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  Yeah it,
0 B:  I'm one of the, I'm twenty-three, so, you know, I used to be in a band and
1 A:  Uh-huh, so you like the hits of today.  You're not really interested into
0 A:  Sounds like [laughter].  
0 B:  -- when I was in junior high, but,  
1 seats but, 
0 B:  Yeah, my, ex-girlfriend's dad used to be in a, a drum corp or whatever.
0 B:   Yes, we do.  
1 watch and I tape because I'm not home [laughter].  
1 A:   -- so I don't, I don't know some of those shows now, like I
1 KNOTS LANDING on Thursday nights,  
0 NORTHERN EXPOSURE.  Well, it's not really new, but it's still kind
0 B:   Gosh.  
0 A:   I was reading that in the supermarket line.  I never have the
0 A:  Listen, you got a great bargain.  For ten,  
0 B:  He was saying he was chatting and we were having a good old time --
0 B:  Yeah, and then you can glue a little edge around if you want to, like I
1 B:  -- and I just hot glued it around the edge.  
0 B:  -- just, n-, she'd never even meet them and she'd just get money for it.
1 A:  Well good [laughter].  
1 probably your husband, can get in [laughter].
1 A:  -- I've learned something from it.  
0 mostly had, uh, you know, German cars like, uh, I had, I mean, you know, used
1 A:  Want to fix my Thunderbird?  
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].  
1 B:  If it's a very new one, I wouldn't even begin to, you know,   
0 B:  I'll tell you.  You know, the thing I'm worried about is, that's strictly
1 know it's out there.
1 B:  Did they have them memorized,  
1 B:  -- it was, no, no, no [laughter].  
0 B:  Now, there are some wonderful programs for children and -- 
0 B:  -- never thought of that till you mentioned the pillow fights. 
1 winter a lot of time [laughter],
0 B:  Oh. 
0 B:  -- and had a great time there.  The beach was beautiful and, and that was
1 A:  Right, haven't been for twenty years myself but,   
0 B:  -- and they have, there's a sanctuary there.  There was supposed to be
0 minutes, uh --
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Yes.   
0 A:  Well,
0 A:  No, I used to have a cat when my kids were little.  
0 B:  Yeah, [laughter] yeah, well her name's Sam because it's like short for
1 B:  Really?  
0 B:  Well, she doesn't like to be brushed, though.  
1 A:  No [laughter].  
1 A:  [Breathing] Boy [laughter].  
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].  
1 A:   You sound like me.  
0 A:   If it's printed, I'll read it.  
1 them, I'll always have to be sure to carry a book with me
1 [laughter],  
0 particular library that has all the mysteries arranged in one area. 
1 turn on the stereo and I'm just, I'm, I'm set for about an hour.  
1 till like Wednesday [laughter].  
0 know, I get the books and then after I read them, if I really like
0 about a mile and a half and, and one in particular stays open till,
0 B:   [Laughter]. 
1 long time ago [laughter]. 
0 that?  
0 B:   No, I d-, my mother did.  Uh, she lived with, well, my aunt
0 the nursing home because of that, but, uh --  
0 B:   Uh-huh.  
0 A:   -- they, they have a nursing home if you can't maintain your
0 care facility for I would guess about a year's time.  But, uh, it's
0 mental faculties?  
0 they're completely, their bodies are gone, you know.  
0 a relative, a close relative that will look in on them.  
0 A:   Uh-huh.  
1 about that corporate umbrella -- 
1 all of that out of my system,  
1 providing -- 
0 thrift plan -- 
0 B:   You know, and,  
0 that you just heat up.  Nothing great though.
0 B:  -- probably my favorite kind of food --
1 A:  Yeah, I don't, I don't think I can go the, the jar stuff
0 right.
1 A:  Yeah, that's really dirty work, isn't it?  
0 A:  So,  
1 B:  Oh, are you?  
1 B:  [Laughter] Yeah, right.  
1 B:  That's right [laughter]. 
1 A:  Least another year.  
0 I've only lived here for two years, but last year at this time, there was, we
1 B:   No [laughter].  
0 B:   I've got, I've got a lot of fish in my aquarium and I've also
1 got a dog who is sitting out there in the rain wishing I'd let him
0 want to let the dog in [laughter].  
1 B:   -- and when we got this dog, I didn't know what to do
0 A:   Well, do you, uh, uh, have your, are you going to breed your
0 A:   -- can adopt a dog, you know -- 
1 A:   -- an eight foot fence.  
1 A:   Get that mud up in your,  
1 tired.  
1 A:   I said, yeah, but I love it.  
1 now.  
1 A:   [Laughter]. 
1 was going on, but, you know. 
1 A:   Yeah.  And daddy loved it, too, I mean,   
1 B:   [Laughter]. 
0 A:   Oh, yes.  The swing set that we have, a little Jim Dandy, uh,
1 will want to come to his house to play, you know [laughter]. 
1 to play with at our house.  
1 A:   But, oh, well.  
0 messed up themselves.  And, you know, in talking to teachers, I have several,
0 uh, friends that are teachers, [breathing] they, uh, uh, you know, they're
0 B:  -- you know, to, to quit it or get off of it or, or whatever before you're,
0 A:   -- and cooler things in the summer, but I, [lipsmack], for my
0 A:   Oh. 
0 B:   -- during the week either.  
1 A:   Well, I guess you couldn't because you wouldn't have jeans on
1 B:   Sure [laughter].  
1 I going to,  
1 B:   [Laughter]. 
0 B:   I think they said hobbies, didn't they?  
0 B:   -- it does [laughter]. 
0 and I can upholster the walls and things like that.  
0 They turned out really nice.  
1 eighteen or so, uh, it would be important to know if it was a coed
1 college [laughter].  
0 have to consider how expensive the college is and how close to
1 A:   Yeah.
0 cheaper if you stay within your state --  
1 The, uh, the defendant on, uh, the witness stand admitted he was guilty, 
0 the media given --
1 came down from Mars.
0 B:  #Well, I know when I've been,# you know, called to jury duty, they had to
1 B:   [Laughter] My community, that's cute.  
1 neighbor's about a half a mile at least,  
1 of dirt road to the concrete,  
0 B:   So when I drive the car in the, in the driveway in the
0 return envelope -- 
1 B:   -- plus the other stuff that I, you know, happen to gather up. 
1 B:   I've had four companies actually stop mailing me stuff.  
0 B:   -- is the only way to really do it on a, on a broad scale. 
1 B:   He collects trash.  You know, and,  
1 B:  Well,
0 B:  And, it's, you know, I don't think, I mean, he's even said he, he, you
0 B:  Just,
0 B:  Got another call?  
0 A:  Oh, I can't wait.  
0 A:  Now, does the old STAR TREK guys meet the new guys?
1 kind of hobbled down the halls real slow.  Vulcans age a lot better
1 A:  Uh,  
0 B:  Well, I've gone to, you know, one for real live Trek Convention but, 
0 A:  Oh, really?  
1 A:  Huh, did you get to talk to him?  
1 A:  Yeah.  
1 A:  Oh. 
0 B:  Oh, yeah, yeah.  
1 B:  Well, it is, well, actually it isn't.  Actually, the New York Giants
1 it's,
0 A:  Yeah.  
1 B:   Oh, I'll bet it is a good topic then.  
0 B:   Oh, wow.  
0 eventually I'm sure one of the, in one of the three trials they'll
0 want capital punishment or we want something, or life imprisonment. 
0 not like you go and say, you know, we, we recommend this
0 B:  [Inhaling] Well, yeah, still kind of am weak and shaky, I just, in fact
0 fishing in the lake --
1 get anybody to, to [laughter] go with me.
1 B:  He saw the fish go flying through the air.  
0 B:  -- through just kind of a, I don't know, it's some kind of a little drain
0 B:  -- anything.
1 B:  -- as I started going, I realized I had something bigger than, than I was
0 street we all know one another and know that we're not moving [laughter] and
0 A:  Yeah.  
1 that I liked the most and [noise] probably the one I liked most was
1 B:   Were you?  
0 A:   Have you?  
0 A:   Well,  
1 B:   And, uh, but now [child] we like things like the Regency Hyatt
0 B:   And we did a lot of camping out there in the Smokeys and it
0 really cold.  So,
0 B:  And whenever I remembered the weather reports in Utah, I never really
1 B:  I only skied once my whole life [laughter].  
1 B:  Yeah, well, I can't, there are so many girls in all my classes, I
0 a learning disability.
0 A:  Right, and I, and I stayed gone a month.  
1 ten dollars a day.
0 B:  Wow.  
0 summer after school got out.  And we started adding up, you know, totaling how
0 B:  That's right.  
1 B:  He better not be mine [laughter].  
0 A:  but, you're not likely to find somebody who is going to, you know, have
1 [laughter].  
0 A:   [Laughter].
1 we named it Duchess and then we found out it was a boy.  
1 B:   Yes.  
1 lid and the momma rabbit, the white one had had eleven babies
1 A:   So that was quite a surprise and,  
1 A:   so we went from three bunnies to fifteen in a matter of two
0 B:  Oh, one thing that I look for is, uh, well, maybe not the most important
0 A:  Okay.  
0 A:  I work as a E D P auditor and, yeah, I've got a degree and a bunch of
1 A:  Wow.  
0 and I remember hearing about it.  It was about a year ago.  Uh, he was, he was
0 you go on the jury --
0 making me that sure of something.
0 else would have known.
0 B:  Well, they can't, they can, I think in the punishment phase --
1 A:  Yeah, and I'm really kind of against life in prison anyway --
0 A:  No?  
1 B:  I was a Pete Incaviglia fan and, uh -- 
0 a contender in here.  But,
0 B:  Oh, I know.  
0 stadium.
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  Yes.  
0 B:  [Laughter]  Well, let's see.  Usually when we have a dinner party, I
0 Cake sometimes, but, uh, that's what we would do for a dinner party, I guess.
0 B:  Is it in Dallas?  
1 experiment with it probably.
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  No, I heard that they're not going to talk to him till next week's now.
1 B:  I don't think he is.  
0 B:  Okay.  
0 A:  [Laughter] I know.  
0 A:  Um.  
0 B:  Yeah, that's what happens because,
1 truck came by, well, we all ran out to watch it because, you know, we'd never
0 unlike, uh, like in, in Arab societies.  If you get, get caught stealing, they
0 [lipsmack] to society of having somebody in jail for all their life is, is
0 A:  Yeah.  
0 B:  Yeah, I sure did.  Of course, I'm a Kevin Costner fan [laughter].
0 B:  He does put in a real good, it's a real lighthearted movie.  If you are,
1 yeah, it's not fair to the public and it's, it, I think it's a terrible shame
0 sister-in-law and her fifteen month old baby and then they came just two days
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 are, we are having to build new prisons because there is no place to put, to
0 B:  Right.  
1 restaurants.  Now that I have a daughter in college, and I'm going [laughter],
1 A:  Uh, we don't, I don't even think we have a Greek restaurant in Arlington
0 A:  Some of them, you know, they come up with all this phony [laughter] stuff,
1 A:  [Laughter] Oh. 
1 A:  But, still, Brennan's is so lovely and the service is so wonderful
1 B:  Oh, wow.  
1 like a brand new like Lamborghini [laughter].
1 B:  Something with a, that's not too sporty because of insurance, then
1 B:  Yeah.  
1 B:  Right, I mean, I wasn't a great asset to them or anything [laughter].
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  Well, I heard it that, I heard it that time [laughter].  
1 A:  Yeah, so you guys can actually get ahead [laughter].  
1 A:  Exactly, yeah, send it to this address, no [laughter].  
0 every time they change the oil, they just dump all the res-, their old oil
0 for.
0 from cars, but we had things like T M tin from a local steel mill, I mean
0 B:  You're kidding [laughter].  
0 B:  Yeah, now, I've, I've lived in, this is the second time I've lived in
0 uh, about a year and a half ago, I was transferred back to Houston after being
0 A:  Yeah.  I know, even in the small town, university town, the university is
0 the convenience of going out there, cranking up my car and driving to exactly
0 A:  Oh, [laughter] that's quite a range.  
1 B:  Yes, those are over a million.   
1 then ran away, 
1 I'll tell you, it takes all my time [laughter].
1 B:  Yes, that's true,  
0 B:  -- you do have a right to, to wear and carry arms with you at all times.
1 that sometime.
1 A:  -- other than gossiping [laughter] about people [laughter].  
0 B:  Well, I've seen columns in the newspapers where they say if this is your
1 hand, this is how, 
0 played bridge.  Now we get together and we finally start bridge about eight or
1 eight thirty, we play for an hour and then we stop and talk and have dessert
1 [laughter].
1 B:  -- never hurts to have a little refreshment involved, too.  
0 @@A:  Oh, do you?  
0 A:  Yeah, it is, we, we enjoy it very much.  Is, uh, your, uh, sister married
0 people, you know, over the United States and, uh, it's kind of interesting.
0 B:  Uh-huh, right.  And sometimes it's, uh, well, not sometimes, but many times
1 and, uh, that kind of thing can make and break, make or break you as you can
1 A:  Yeah, I've had, I've had that frustration, too.  I -- 
0 have several papers that are pretty --
0 JOURNAL, uh, I, I've kind of gathered lately that, uh, maybe their information
1 B:  And the good people make it look easy [laughter].  
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
1 B:  My parents took me on a cruise when I was in the sixth grade. 
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Yeah, uh, I think it's wonderful [laughter].  
0 A:  Think anybody could do it, but,  
0 B:  Yes, they do.  
1 A:  Oh, I didn't know that.  
0 A:  What?  
1 B:  Two s-, two, two, uh, uh, for sure are single.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  We don't go out drinking beer till three and try to go to class in the
1 @B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  You bet.  
0 it.  I figure that's my retirement game.  I really, I come from a family of
0 golf.
0 B:  Well, I went to, I decided this past year that I was going to get out and
1 when everyone's standing around watching you, I'd be [laughter], 
1 and I got a leading edge and I got a American one and had a I B M one, but
1 [laughter],
0 A:  Oh, yeah?  What kind of programs do you,  
0 B:  Uh, yeah, unfortunately the little portable P C that was plugged on the
1 A:  Yep, that will, that will,
0 that one corner, that's about Lookout there, I think, isn't it.
0 reasonable prices.
1 B:  They're still doing business.  Big business, apparently.  
0 six hundred even with a trade in, you know, it's like, wow [laughter].
0 a dog barking in the background.
0 B:  Uh-huh, I have a home.  
0 B:  The seasonal things.  
1 A:  Well, that's nice [laughter].  I wish I could say that.  
1 A:  Oh, okay.  
0 A:  Oh, no.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  We won't go through that again, I will pay someone [barking] to do it
1 B:  Oh. 
0 B:  Oh, gosh.  
0 is --
1 B:  Oh.
0 A:  -- just, uh,  
0 B:  Yes.  
1 @A:  I asked you first because I couldn't think of,  
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  You know, show me one thing and I get the picture [laughter]. 
1 book and I didn't want to put it down [laughter].  
1 fantasy like.  
1 B:   [Laughter]. 
0 so on?  
0 B:  What, uh, school district is she in?
0 three point five percent of what I sell, and, um, uh, annualized premium, and
0 B:  -- we baby-sit quite frequently.  So we're a fairly close-knit family.
1 B:  Oh.
1 grandchildren [laughter].
0 B:  #uh,# in January, so she and, and the three boys and my husband and I went
1 B:  Well, it does #[laughter].#
0 A:  #[Laughter].#
0 [sniffing] you spend eighteen hours fixing your dinner and it takes twelve
0 A:  The thing that I think that's missing at the, uh,
0 A:  #So,# 
0 don't they?  [Laughter].
1 B:  [Child_talking].
0 A:  Oh, no [laughter].
1 B:  -- then they would never have to try to please the people at home
1 #[laughter].#
1 remember when I was real young, I just loved Harry Truman.  I thought he was
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 to me, they have nothing to read.
0 B:  #Right.#
0 a, a thing that said hey, you know, I mean it was whatever the, the, uh,
1 B:  Yeah, yeah.  But, um, I find at times [lipsmack] I have numerous magazines
0 B:  #in a# magazine.
1 A:  It is.   
0 last six years, every year there's been at least minimum twenty-five percent
0 {faint} #and, uh,#
0 magnetic, uh, resonance imaging type thing.  And my wife said, well, do I need
0 A:  thousand, uh, uh, dollars for thirty-five minutes.  I mean, doctors
0 to be hauled into court.
0 address too [laughter] just, you know, because it's
0 #professional# --
1 B:  That's right.
0 A:  [Laughter] Huh, okay.  Well, um, let's see, what else?  Do you have any
1 B:  #Yeah,# I think so #[laughter].#
0 B:  Not that I can think of.
0 B:  -- for another thirty minutes.  So it is an hour.  And then my husband and
1 A:  Uh-huh.  Uh, well I use to exercise regularly and I haven't lately
1 Ugh.
0 time I get over the gym and, and go for my class and shower and get back to
1 A:  Yeah [laughter].
0 it does going to start whether you are there or not [laughter].
0 A:  That is right [laughter].  That is right.
1 B:  #You are# not kidding.
0 A:  That is right.
1 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  They work pretty well, #really.  They're# --
0 A:  No, I haven't.
0 B:  #Uh-huh.#
1 B:  [Child_talking] [lipsmack] Yeah, it puts out a lot.
0 A:  Yes #[laughter].#
0 B:  And, uh, #it# --
0 B:  A little thicker than most.  But it ended up working fine.
0 A:  Real nice, real nice.  It got up to about seventy-five degrees down here,
0 Popping sound on B.
1 worry about them too much.
0 ========================================================================
0 B:  next year, that have put, [baby_crying] you know, their hat in, in, in the
1 #the line like that and say, hey,#
0 A:  I, I don't.  I don't belong to any particular, uh, platform and, and I
0 Anderson, was the, the gentleman who ran for, uh, on an independent ticket
0 B:  -- uh, Carter #[breathing].#
0 A:  And especially where, if you don't completely agree with their platform, if
0 A:  have the financial support, or there's just no hope, and --
0 B:  #I see, so, so# if, if William Kennedy Smith had been found guilty, you
0 thing and go back, and, uh, if they're habitual, like three times caught for
0 B:  #Uh-huh.#
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  Well, we have an easy subject today, I guess.
0 A:  That's another consideration [laughter].
0 A:  #Oh.#
0 A:  So the cleaning (( )) really is the worse for entertaining.
0 little.
1 B:  Yes, they do.
1 A:  #[Laughter].#
1 B:  I was thinking, I just don't, I don't dare try all that stuff.
1 been married for twenty-five #years.  My,#
0 A:  -- then the additional automobile expense, [sigh] I don't know, it's, I, I
1 there's a problem.
1 A:  -- don't think where it's going to have to go, huh.
0 B:  [Laughter] That's true, but, yeah, we have flash flooding, because, you
0 fairly mild --
1 vocation, that's what I do for a living, 
0 someone who is, who is violent or has a sick, warped mind.
0 determined to get a gun and commit some, some act, they're going to get it,
1 B:  I'll let you go first [laughter].
1 B:  Well, 
1 B:  As far as fancy recipes go, though --
1 cook.
1 B:  Oh, is that right.
0 A:  So, it was pretty funny, because I had a lot to say [laughter] on that.
0 B:  Well, I work for a law firm, so I probably could have responded to that
1 A:  Oh, you're not.
0 B:  Oh, my goodness.
1 A:  Oh, well, we're, you know, we're not going to eat the #whole thing
1 A:  So everything that lives around here is real tough [laughter].
0 B:  Really.
0 A:  Uh-huh, which is how I heard about this [laughter].
0 a shopping cart crashed into it --
0 bucks to replace --
1 and forth, 
1 B:  Oh, well, it's, uh, it's worked.
0 A:  -- across the country.  
0 A:  -- and in the same school district, you may, even in an Arlington seventh
0 A:  I don't know.  I just read about that the other day, and I had never even
0 you're at work and had to get a message or something [laughter], you know, or
1 A:  Other than buy it #[laughter] prerecorded.#
1 A:  #Yeah, uh-huh [laughter].#
0 and the cello.
0 B:  #Uh-huh.#
0 couldn't stay by herself during the daytime.
1 [laughter].
0 B:  -- like about fifteen, so that she had no assets. 
1 the same I weighed for, oh, I don't know how many years, but, uh, it's changed
1 A:  And things don't fit just quite exactly --
0 B:  Uh-huh.  I stopped eating meat about, oh, uh, must have been eight months
1 A:  I've tried to do that with sugar and, 
1 A:  it's almost impossible --
0 B:  [Laughter] #I don't know if I'm that brave yet#.
1 A:  -- that's a problem, but.
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  I understand there's, uh, what, several hundred, or even thousands of
0 have many, uh, many blacks to speak of.  You know, probably less than five
1 B:  No, me neither.
0 A:  -- nasty?
0 B:  Uh, Santa Anna.  It's near Anaheim.  Disneyland.
0 A:  #Yes, yes, that's supposed to be really# pretty.
0 A:  I've been through there.  Those trees are huge.  You can drive a car
0 Italian restaurant, and I know, [laughter] my sister-in-law was saying the
0 other day she knew of a little place down in, well it's about thirty miles
1 B:  I mean in a restaurant [laughter].
1 A:  Got you your McDonald's, your Pizza Inn, your Taco Bell, 
1 B:  [Laughter].  
1 A:  -- but it takes three or four months to get in shape.  So.
0 take over the pets.
0 lot and --
1 A:  Well cool.  When I was growing up we had a dog.  One dog and [laughter],
1 think we should go back and get it now or,
1 should probably wait.
1 I didn't like cats at all.
1 B:  She doesn't really care too much.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 paid, then that can't, it seems to me it can't possibly, you know, help with
0 administration could do.
1 like I, like I think, 
0 B:  it's hard, but I mean, a lot of times women were given jobs because they
0 B:  Yes, it does [laughter].  I'm sure it would in such a monstrous place down
0 about all of these fabulous salaries they're paying to all of our athletes, I
0 thing led to another, and eventually we ended up replacing all the pipes from
1 B:  #Kind of fun, isn't it.#
1 A:  That's what I needed, and I didn't think about that.  I got a Mickey Mouse
0 a, a range of care, I guess, so that --
0 A:  And they're all quite young --
1 B:  No, I'm in, I'm in graduate school right now [laughter].
0 B:  Okay.
1 B:  No.
1 university.
0 A:  And what the scholarship could not supply I was able to, to work for and --
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter] I wish the post office would just stop raising our rates.
0 B:  #The space# station's where we should go --
0 B:  #Now do# you have to have tickets ahead?  #Excuse me.#
0 A:  What restaurant is it?
1 B:  We couldn't see our pa-, we couldn't see our parking lot.
1 B:  Uh, a bug's a bug.
0 B:  -- but, uh, I mean, this was like every other day he was coming out there
1 B:  Maybe shut, shut down, shut down work, 
1 A:  Oh, well, I'm not from here, but, yeah, I never really did learn
1 [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Um, I agree, I think that our education system needs revamped, I,
0 we were given so much money in a voucher and we're able to choose which
0 A:  -- long vacation period.
0 it was built.  I get forty-two miles per gallon on the highway and uh, twen-,
0 A:  Well, that's very interesting.  I've had, I've had exactly the same
0 be taken care of, and so forth.  And I guess that's one thing that, that
0 B:  -- and we can look out on the lake and just see the brown haze, uh --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Send, send them to Wisconsin, 
1 A:  Well, I don't think I could walk up sixty-eight flights of stairs
1 B:  That, that's the major reason I'm walking up the stairs.
1 the heavy stuff, and I do all the fun stuff [laughter].
0 B:  I see.
0 B:  Wild flowers.
1 don't have to worry about any of that [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  -- and we have trumpet vine and moon flowers, and we planted those out by
1 B:  Oh really [laughter].
0 B:  Oh, I love home gro-, grown tomatos.  
0 A:  Um, the economy is, is doing badly, and Bush isn't looking good as a
1 result.
0 A:  I don't know how old you are.  I'm, I'm, I'm fifty, but I go back to where
0 B:  Yeah, there, I don't know, I mean, [laughter] there's just so many, there's
0 A:  Yeah.
0 or something, man you, the first thing you'd want to do is kill them.  I mean,
0 A:  Right.
0 B:  -- um, in my position, I, well in addition to that the local political
1 the, 
1 B:  You want to talk about, 
0 and raci-, you know, you ask those same people --
0 B:  I, I, I worked on some of it at T I --
1 it'd be real nervous.
1 A:  -- as far as me seeing it, you know, 
0 A:  Right.
0 B:  Oh, yeah.
1 A:  Some crazy hit man over there so, 
1 A:  -- crazy guys get a hold of it, you never know.
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 still hasn't been taken of in fact.  We were driving along the other night,
0 B:  Oh. 
1 A:  -- to admit that when the weather starts to get cold, 
0 A:  And so I've, I've [throat_clearing] had them all, and, and, uh, uh, have
0 A:  Well, their daughter was on a weekend trip with the church and, and they
0 B:  I know we, we really liked Hot Springs just because we, neither of us had
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  Oh, okay.
0 B:  Well, yeah.
1 vacant lot.
0 A:  Well, tell me about your home.
0 swing yet, so, I haven't been able to play as much as I would have liked to
1 B:  -- so you don't gain weight [laughter], 
1 B:  -- and so it's just kind of, 
0 part of your body.  I never realized, you know, I thought basketball basically
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  -- skiers but, 
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  Well, no, not [laughter] really.
1 few times [laughter], 
0 A:  That's, you don't have to do as much as, as I thought.  In fact, my
0 B:  -- start all over --
1 A:  No, not really.  
1 my wife [laughter].
0 B:  Yes, I really enjoyed it.  I'd read the book, and I thought they stayed
0 until seven, and I'll just, uh, leave the office at five, go to a movie, and
0 we just all go to movies [laughter].
0 A:  And, uh, we're just offering a, a new card that gives you on-, up to one
0 B:  Well, I, I'll tell you, that works, because I use my Discover card more
0 A:  Yeah #yeah# --
0 him as long as they did.
0 A:  It was a, I guess they played last Friday here in Salt Lake, and about the
0 first two minutes of the game, Isaiah drove in and Malone went up to block the
0 A:  Anyway.
1 paper probably, or a sports page in [noise] I venture to say in about a month
0 think.#
1 A:  What do you think about that?  Do you think he got what he deserved, or
0 A:  Yeah.  I don't know how the Lakers are going to do without him this year.
0 heard of so many abuses, he just didn't want that.
0 so, so, uh, I've thought about this more than once, uh, you know, dealing with
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  We've got a lot of (( )), in federal court they have a uniform sentencing
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Well, I think it's curious that the sentences that are handed down
1 B:  Oh, it's quite, quite big, huh.
1 A:  You mentioned the word rough.  My idea of rough, 
0 gosh, they're already into this, uh, well, car camping plus,
0 expressed interest in going and doing some camping, so.
1 A:  -- and without thinking I picked up a stick and threw it at him --
1 A:  It turned around, and if a skunk can give you a dirty look, it did.
0 B:  [Laughter].
1 years so mainly, 
0 B:  Yeah, and, and they're the same silly things, I mean, if you've read one, I
0 B:  Uh, have you, uh, gotten into SCARLETT yet?
1 B:  Well, it was around here last night, I'll tell you that [laughter].
0 A:  [Laughter] I've never seen a thunder show like I've seen down here before
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Well, not really, 
1 it's, uh, in fact, I've, I've played golf on, on, uh, New Year's Day one year.
0 B:  How about yourself?
0 B:  Is it pretty rough?
1 to pay upkeep on it, or any [laughter],
1 it's a hole in the water that you throw money into.
1 B:  I've never heard that one.  I suppose that's probably true, so.
1 way to go, uh, nowhere fast,
0 B:  That might be the same sort of muscles that you'd use but,
1 don't know, the idea of having to commute,
0 A:  Oh, it's, uh, pretty warm.  It's about fifty-three degrees or so.  Uh, so
0 week.  So that was really quite a chore.
1 A:  -- the size of my yard is decreasing in proportion to my age.
0 B:  Well, see that's what, that's also on our wish list.  We, um, couple of
1 for [laughter] end up, 
0 B:  Yeah, that's true.  And, uh, let's see, what other benefits?  Do you have
0 A:  That's all they have.
0 B:  I see, uh-huh.
1 wouldn't go so far to say that we're trekkies but we, 
1 A:  I'm not, but my husband is, and he went last weekend to see it too
0 B:  Oh, at the movie house or,
0 B:  Have you seen DOC HOLLYWOOD?
0 B:  Oh, oh, good.  How about BEAUTY AND THE BEAST?  Have you, 
1 B:  -- just for yourself, 
1 A:  Our husbands both said, No way. 
0 B:  [Laughter].
1 then.
1 current movies I don't know what's going on but, 
1 the Challenger,
0 imagine that, uh, space flight is something that is going to really be within
1 A:  Yeah I well,
1 A:  Exactly, some of these boring ones, you just kind of babble on, I guess
0 B:  -- and, uh, we extended and, uh, started a club called the Altrusa Club of
1 A:  Uh-huh. 
1 church in my lifetime [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Haven't you?
1 know if I have any other real regular ones that I watch.
1 B:  Oh, I don't get into them that much.
1 B:  Well, 
1 B:  Yeah, well, they're not entertained for too long with it.  He's, 
0 B:  (( )).
1 A:  Ooh, that should be a lot of fun.
1 B:  And remember to yell Geronimo, 
0 B:  Uh, well, this is all, uh, it's all drywall --
0 B:  Yeah, could be, could be.  Although, they, a lot of those existed as states
0 B:  Well, it's interesting to talk about hobby, hobbies when you're so close
0 B:  -- and, has compartments in it, and they're, you know, they go pretty
0 type projects.
1 A:  -- I, I don't think I have a real talent for painting.
1 really cute, but they look hard to me [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah, it comes out looking really nice.  
0 B:  So, they really are cute.  And, uh, she does them so quickly --
1 A:  My word.
0 B:  [Laughter].
1 said, you'll probably have about fifty more orders from all the teachers
0 A:  Have you ever sewn the stuffed animal type things --
1 B:  -- quite frankly.
0 B:  I work because if I want to eat, I'm out there [laughter] working.
0 grateful that none of my daughters-in-laws at this time are working, because
1 B:  -- but the problem with these nursing homes is [throat_clearing] the cost
0 A:  We, we basically push her around, and she's lost control of her bowel, and
1 B:  Yeah, well hopefully, 
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 we simply go to an area, backpack in, spend a night or two, and then backpack
0 B:  Yes, I had my son with me, uh --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  -- and then in a week Mom and I agreed to chaperon my son's, 
0 A:  -- it'll still be there tomorrow.  
1 B:  And, um, so he worked on that for the longest time, ever since school
0 B:  -- those kinds of things never happen --
1 A:  Yes, and you can't communicate while you're doing that, right?
1 A:  -- doing something.
1 A:  You're kind of like, what are you talking about and, uh,
1 A:  You feel like you're a little bit out of it, don't you.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 on your toes, huh.
0 B:  -- after a short.
0 A:  Well.
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  Oh, my word.  And how old, you have a longevity, don't you, in your family
1 A:  Oh, oh, you're just a youngster then [laughter].
0 crime, whether a burglary or,
0 part about it, nobody seems to want to suggest the idea that doing without is
1 A:  All right [laughter].
0 as well as just, the general type of education that the school gives.
1 A:  You learn to appreciate what you had [laughter].
0 A:  What other points did you guys look at when you were trying to find her
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  -- oh, my gosh.
1 A:  Oh, cool.
1 A:  Meow, meow cats.
0 litters, and I'm glad the children experienced the process.  Uh, I didn't see
0 for feline leukemia, but back when this cat died, which was, oh, some ten
0 B:  So, we enjoy dogs because, uh, they kind of bark when someone shouldn't be
1 watch cats or anything, but I tell you what, we don't have any mice or, 
1 A:  -- and they'll leave us a present on the back or front step,
1 cat a big rabbit, and the fact of it, the cat and the rabbit looked pretty
1 B:  -- but I just, I was wiped out there for, 
0 B:  But, that was the way to do stuff, and, uh, I think you have to make the
0 good, but I know a lot of people do it.
1 B:  Well, it's uh, the interest rates are still crazy up there, you know, 
0 B:  So, it's not, uh, it's not really an advantage to have them, now they, uh,
0 something out of them now.
0 not going to use it, for example, like you said, with a Visa card really you
0 A:  -- I think a lot of times, especially, like I'm a student, so I don't have
0 A:  Oh, yeah.
1 B:  -- and using up all my nighttimes,
1 B:  You have one that often.
1 B:  Because about the best I can normally hope for is about fifty --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Well, I, I work the same way [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah, I, I, I think [clicking] my involvement in, in school got him in
0 A:  Oh.
0 A:  You can make the kind of things that you want.  Have you ever made any type
0 of chair?
0 configured.
1 yet.  So it's,
1 A:  Yeah, everybody tells me they're angels, so, you know, 
1 B:  -- for that enchilada dinner.  Nice and cheap.
1 fifteen or twenty years.
1 wonderful.  Right.
1 A:  -- yes, I think so.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Oh.
1 like,
1 B:  Oh, yeah, me too, uh, me too.  Unless I'm going somewhere warm 
1 A:  Mine are too, 
1 know, when somebody would decide to quit or something, I always felt real
0 panicky [laughter].
0 A:  Oh, yes.  You know, I don't know how people, we-, it's pretty cold here in
0 A:  -- and I, I just think it would be so hard to have to get a child up, a
1 A:  Right.  Well there was seventeen years between them but, 
1 A:  Uh-huh, we kept trying [laughter].
1 telephone right now #[laughter].#
1 A:  How old is the little one?
1 A:  Oh, boy.  Keeps #you,# 
1 A:  Yeah #[laughter].#
0 A:  Yes.
0 A:  Oh, are #you?#
1 B:  -- I keep learning then #[laughter].#
0 tiny little plates and little sunglasses.  And, uh --
0 A:  Like, uh, [lipsmack] my boyfriend listens to Guns and Roses --
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 find a mess on your hands [laughter].
0 I love that, so I have,
0 B:  He's okay.  And, who else, Dolly Parton.  
1 B:  Yeah, but she thinks she's young [laughter].  
0 A:  #Right.#  
1 @B:  Uh, well, I, I do, uh, real rough type camping.  I have a motor home
1 A:  Okay.  
0 B:  They really are.  I've, I've enjoyed it.  I've never actually done any, uh,
1 that's my first trip back in, oh, goodness, um, um, thirty years maybe
1 B:  I don't know why I got stuck down here in Texas now [laughter].
0 B:  And then we went up the, the Big Sur Highway all the way up to San
0 A:  Okay. 
1 B:  -- I'm going to have to look at Lakers this year a lot.  
1 B:  -- I'll get used to it [laughter].  I learned a lot about football, so far,
1 A:  Oh, yeah.  
1 B:  So that was pretty fun to see the improvement.  
0 B:  -- got to do it indoors.  
1 B:  -- exactly what went wrong, you know [laughter].  
1 A:  Uh, well, uh, the Cowboys are my favorite team.  That's pretty easy to say
1 nowadays [laughter].
1 mister nice guys like they used to be.
1 A:  I'm watching them on T V right now.  But they're doing some stomping on
0 A:  -- they're winning.  
0 B:  Which is made by Toyota.  
0 about a half a dozen, uh, things and --
0 B:  -- #and you turn that on,# and it, yeah, and it kind of, uh, but that's
0 Year award all at the same time, I think.  But, uh, but in eighty-two I think
0 outfield there for the most part and, uh, quite a few of the infielders are,
0 have the radio going and listen to the news there and then, uh, I watch the
0 A:  They are, right.  
1 too.  #I think,#
1 B:  -- and Yeltsin is already there sitting there [laughter].  
1 B:  Hundreds.  
1 B:  So I feel sorry for all the liberals in town.  They have to,
0 S should move toward some kind of national health care plan.  At least as a
1 to, uh, and not have a completely socialized,
1 B:  I'm opinionated.  
0 B:  #Uh-huh.#  
0 A:  -- all the time.  
1 B:  I was going to say, that's a Black Forest cuckoo clock you have.
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 A:  But, uh, how old are you, may I ask?  
0 A:  Oh. 
1 B:  -- I just got out of the shower.  
0 A:  Oh, #you're really# --
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  And the rate of crime doubled within a, about a year or so.  
1 take a week off in August and then when the,
0 uh, uh, A C M, Association for Community Materials.  I get, uh, three or four,
0 A:  Yeah, I guess if you want to find out a specific item, you have nowhere
0 to find out.
1 A:  And, uh, the things they can say and do to a teacher and they do from what
1 B:  Yes, we're not too long distance today.  
1 A:  All right.  
1 B:  Learned about their basketball team [laughter].  
0 A:  Oh. 
0 someplace.
0 already mentioned is, is health insurance.  I think through our health
1 B:  Then I think it makes a big difference.  
0 B:  Right.   
1 B:  retirement, that kind of thing which I don't worry much about so
0 B:  Wal-Mart?  
0 B:  Uh, he was just a wacko.  
0 B:  That's what it was.  He went around,
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 went to one, it was at my, uh, actually it was in Layton and it was at my
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 A:  Kind of a heavy topic tonight right,  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 know if they have it today.  I had a friend, though, in the seventies join,
0 B:  Uh, I just don't think they even, I don't know if they have those programs
1 throw up their arms about it and go, I'm going to Harvard and I, you know,
0 B:  Uh, so that was beneficial to me as well as the child, because, uh, made me
1 of necessity.  Just repairing things around the house.
1 B:  -- basements were, were common and,
0 A:  -- for that.  Yeah, lot of the equipment, too, that I've, I've used in the
0 sometimes it's cold.  And, uh,
0 day.  He rallied the team down from seventeen points in the middle of the
1 disaster.
0 B:  But when I was looking for the van we were looking around quite a bit.
0 little Honda car that my husband uses --
0 A:  Oh. 
1 birds steal my dog's bird, dog food.
1 A:  Oh, my heck.  
0 A:  I think it's about twenty, well, it's about twenty-eight here.
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 B:  -- that was a joke, it was a joke [laughter].  
0 B:  Yeah.  
1 A:  That you're in the bar and somebody has a gun next to you.  
1 A:  So, uh, what do you think about child care [laughter].  
0 B:  Wrapping her arm all the way around.  
0 B:  Yeah, yeah.  
0 A:  No.  
0 We lost so many people due to crime this past year.  So what do you think is a
1 A:  Well, I mean, i-, when you live in Texas, you accept it when it comes.
1 interest and, uh, and your, your expertise.
0 B:  Yeah, why don't you, why don't we, why don't you do about thirty seconds
0 A:  Wow.  
0 B:  -- but, expert, no [laughter].  
1 you bet, boss, seeing as he was the one that, uh,
0 it, as it turned out one of the top, uh, people, or one of the top doctors in
0 A:  I'm real sorry.  
0 hearing aids [laughter], basic health benefits.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 pack it all in the car and,
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  Uh,
0 B:  -- on Wednesday and like sometimes they come by, sometimes they don't.
0 A:  Um.  
0 A:  From what I've seen on the news [baby_crying], there's a, a pretty good
0 A:  Yeah.  
0 discriminated against unfairly or whatever.  Yeah, I --
0 B:  Okay, yeah, then he's been working for the company for a while, too.  He,
0 A:  Do you like them?  
0 command in this situation, that maybe, maybe we might have some, some control
0 B:  Yeah.  
1 ============================================================================
0 A:  Yeah, yeah.  
0 A:  Uh-huh {faint}.
1 B:  -- better for us if it hasn't been this totally wet before we go
0 A:  Yeah.  So you do that even in January, huh?  
0 A:  -- North Carolina,
1 B:  Hundred [laughter], when you have a hundred here, everybody's dying
0 different stories [laughter].
0 want, want to go into it deeper.  You, uh, you --
0 A:  And then on the radio, you know, they usually, uh, give the news every
1 out of it [laughter].  I don't know what's going on and I don't really care
1 [laughter].
1 A:  You know so, 
1 B:  So we don't watch C N N [laughter].  
0 A:  Yeah, well [laughter], we were glad when it came, but it just keeps going
1 B:  Oh, is that right?  
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
1 B:  Oh, okay.  So that will probably make a difference in the reporting
0 B:  But you get it every day, don't you?  
0 ============================================================================
0 uh, most, but basically a lot of documentary things and, you know, what's
0 A:  I've seen a, uh, the previews for that.  
1 A:  Oh, I do, too [laughter].  
1 B:  And I've watched the, AS THE WORLD TURNS since I was a little girl
1 B:  Yes, I forgot we had to hit one [laughter]. 
0 A:  Is, uh, is that good?  Okay.  
0 them.
0 B:  -- that was real,
1 B:  No.  
1 A:  -- I thought you were going to say there was a snake [laughter] in the
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  I know.  
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  What's a guarantee card?  
0 A:  It's a card that says this check is good for up to a hundred bucks --
0 her tactics extremely rude because she was preying on my, uh, you know, uh,
1 B:  -- and gravy and totally enjoy it.  
1 B:  And then can table that for six months to eight months to another year.
0 A:  {Pause} I'm sorry.  
0 A:  -- many of the places have.  
0 A:  Yes, we did.  It, it was new and, uh, there's a variety of, of homes along
1 B:  Yeah.  
1 B:  -- then they're suing each other.  It's not,
1 B:  -- it doesn't look like the other homes.  It kind,
0 B:  -- and they have a creek that runs through their backyard.  
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 really want to start, 
1 B:  Yeah.
1 work right.
1 work,
1 B:  And we've been living in it now for thirty years, so it must be okay
1 the floor plan now, uh, you probably wouldn't recognize where we started from.
0 B:  -- so we have, the master bedroom is arranged so that it is basic-,
1 A:  That's great [laughter].
0 B:  My husband gets irritated sometimes because of the, you know, about
1 B:  -- out of what, out of my savings account.  Not as well as the Japanese do.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  I'm a teacher, and so, when I read for pleasure, I read strictly for
0 B:  I haven't gotten a copy of SCARLETT yet --
1 into them and read I guess, probably four or five of them, and then I got
1 )).
1 TO RAISE CHILDREN, and they're single.
1 B:  I don't know.  I [laughter],
0 A:  Uh-huh, yeah.
0 B:  -- you know, I like various and sundry kinds of books.  I like to read ones
0 B:  Erma Bombeck.  
0 ===========================================================================
1 B:  Yeah, our budgeting plan includes me getting a job [laughter].
0 contractor.
1 B:  Oh, gees, don't get me to lying.  
0 B:  Right.
0 A:  And she played a, uh, the, uh, she's a housekeeper.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  -- and we were able to buy it for a hundred dollars, because we had the
1 B:  Well, you've got, you, you're good at all the things that I'm very poor at
1 [laughter].
0 A:  Oh.
1 B:  -- so it's a bunch of, you know, old folks getting together and playing
1 [laughter].
0 A:  It is nice.  We really enjoy that, and then in the evenings I do a lot of
0 A:  Fifteen after today.
0 A:  Well, no, it came early.
1 B:  -- so, uh, we got a bunch of strays running around the house.
0 B:  Oh.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  Or even if they don't, they can still take the test [laughter].
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  California's the nearest place.
0 B:  Well.
0 B:  Can you hold just a second, Terry?
1 B:  Well, I guess [laughter].
1 envious of people who do.
1 completely worn out.
0 B:  -- I can -- 
0 B:  Uh, actually one thing we have done quite a bit through the holidays, just
0 B:  It, well, it gives the person's name, and the family is typically so
1 the newspaper.
1 B:  I'm willing to bet.
0 general --
1 Stephenville, Texas.  I'll tell you.
1 He said, Yeah, the Internal Revenue Service, we tax profits #[laughter].#
0 B:  Maybe, I'm the one just hasn't been paying attention.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  #And then when# just he and I go out, then it's -- 
0 B:  Yeah.  
1 B:  #Yeah [laughter]. So do I#
0 B:  #Yeah [laughter].#
0 women in medical profession higher up as in doctors and everything.
0 B:  #Oh, yeah, isn't that# true, isn't that true.  
0 worked, uh, therapeutically, you know, #so# --
0 B:  #Uh-huh#.  
0 A:  Everything else I ever owned was American built.  Uh, mostly older cars.
1 A:  It was a lot of fun.  
1 B:  Yeah, you got to think Bonds is worth more than that, too.  
0 quick.
0 A:  Oh, yeah, that's surprised me because they were so tough, and then I just,
1 back)).  
1 A:  [Laughter] Yeah, I did that, I tried that a few times.  
1 B:  Yeah, or, uh, oh, I left them up in my seat.  
1 A:  No, we almost got chased out of here for feeding a stray cat.
0 use it out of convenience, but I don't, I don't run like on a, a monthly
1 hey, your wife's charged so much money on this credit card.  We want the money
1 A:  No but, 
0 A:  we went on a trip to Arizona.
0 uh, Alfredo, I might have had Parmigiana.
1 B:  -- if they, [laughter] if they act like they do, 
1 B:  [Laughter] Well, that's, uh, pretty good for a restaurant, I guess.
0 B:  No, I guess we didn't have it high enough or he didn't get hit in just the
0 A:  So, when the guy came over, he was infatuated by that skunk, so I made him
0 A:  -- #and with his, with his head# right on her neck --
1 me about it, 
0 how [laughter] and how self-interested their, their motives are --
0 A:  Because that's one of the things, one of the biggest things is that, uh,
0 of work in exchange for that.
1 B:  -- drives her to school, then I'm home to pick her up.  So I'm very, very
0 B:  Yeah, yeah, she feels that way, you know, and we have a neighbor on the
0 provider of child care that, even though you're, you're taking care of someone
1 A:  First off,
1 A:  speaking of air pollution I'm coughing (( )).
0 B:  I know, uh, I don't know how your emissions test is on your cars or
0 A:  -- (( )) truck, you know.
0 A:  Yeah, yeah.
1 B:  -- but.  Well, I don't, I don't know.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  -- #dusty# and,
1 B:  And then there's the dissolution of the [laughter] Soviet Union.
1 A:  [Laughter] Yeah.  Those two pretty much take care of everything
0 B:  Thing, what scares me is some of the things he says I agree with --
1 B:  And I got a job.
1 A:  And I've kind of wondered, you know, if that's right or,
1 A:  Why's that?
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 more, but not any more, they're just too weird to work on now.
0 B:  Oh, yeah.
1 A:  Yes, uh-huh.  
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 A:  So, um, anyway, I have a new transmission, 
1 car, but they're all too busy.  So.
0 B:  Oh, yeah, no kidding.
0 A:  Um, well before we built our home we were managing some apartments that --
0 B:  Do you have, is it a fairly large house?
1 B:  -- so, I guess I'd have to say that, because we kind of let this house go
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  You, and do you know if it's, if they've had good luck with it?
0 A:  Right.
0 to dress, too.
0 B:  Do you tend to dress up toward your superiors as the books kind of.
1 A:  [Inhaling] Below the knee [laughter].
1 B:  I'm a little too old for that [laughter], 
1 A:  That's right.  
0 B:  And, uh, what do you think you might do in such a --
0 A:  -- the place is like.  Um, I mean, you really need to get recommendations,
0 B:  And, uh, sometimes we, as you said, don't know a lot about where we are
0 B:  #Yeah, that's, that's good.#
1 B:  I can understand that.
1 B:  And they waited forty-five minutes?
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 ==========================================================================
1 #month, they'd,#
1 B:  Right.
1 to have X amount of dollars and that's the way it's going to be, you know
0 A:  #Definitely# sounds,
0 B:  The thing is, there's a lot of money, and like I'm in Plano, so it's a
0 that, but I really don't have much.  How about yourself?
1 saw horses, you know, nothing real complicated #[laughter]#.
0 A:  Yeah.  (( )).
0 B:  #So, you know, it's real steady and.# Well, I watch this guy on T V once in
0 B:  #(( ))#
1 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah, it's one night a week, and I think it's something you'd probably
1 living quarters is limited [laughter].
0 A:  Do you know where Mayer is at?
0 A:  Outside of Prescott?
0 camping, but, uh, it didn't look like any of them were really enjoying the
0 B:  And, uh, I have got a routine for every morning of the week and I don't
0 about getting with a, uh, one of their counselors just so see what, uh, they
0 Tuesdays and Thursdays, I run two miles.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 helped a lot and then I add sets to it --
1 A:  Uh, okay, do you live in a single family dwelling as they call it?
0 B:  They are.
0 A:  -- uh, it, it is our big dream.
1 A:  Oh.
0 B:  But I like classical, jazz, uh, you know, uh, contemporary.  I don't know
0 A:  Okay, and, uh, I like classical, and I like, uh, a lot of different kinds
0 mostly.
0 A:  Or, uh, praise songs with words.  Uh, Uh, there is a few things, I don't
0 is really beautiful.
0 A:  Kay.  Uh, do you cook quite a bit?
1 B:  Yeah.
0 will prepare the entree and provide the drinks and then every one else brings
1 B:  -- so I just call it Lea and Perrins, 
0 that was happening, you know.
1 and eat the finger sandwiches #and stuff.#
0 B:  [Child_talking] It has heavy cream in there.  I, I, I just, I fling it
1 B:  Probably go for chili and beer.  That's always a good gas burner.
0 A:  Yeah, and no women and children allowed.
1 B:  That's right #[laughter].#
1 B:  Ple-, plenty of ceiling fans going.
1 A:  #[Laughter].#
0 A:  Uh-huh.  #They request it.#
0 [inhaling], I have ever found out that the, the, [laughter] nobody else used
1 B:  Isn't that funny?
0 B:  Then, I have a wonderful recipe for strawberry pie.  It just takes forever
0 playing on a level field where things are getting taxed and stuff.
0 gains again --
0 A:  Kathy --
1 B:  But even so, I mean, uh, I don't think, I will, uh, make a million or three
0 enjoyed that then and it's, I always loved sports.  Do you play for your ward?
1 about [laughter] --
0 when I lived there and, uh, to play for the Houston team and he was really, I
1 A:  And, uh, keeping, you know, being wrapped up in a team, and, caring whether
1 B:  -- kind of rout for one or the other, but up until then, you know
0 satisfied to watch a score in the newspaper or on, you know, the sports news
0 Public School.
0 A:  Yeah, you know, thi-, all the calls are supposed to be from a different
0 phone [noise].
0 so he spends time doing that with him, planning and, um, practicing outside.
0 A:  #Uh-huh# {faint}.
0 =============================================================================
1 and a budget [laughter].
1 [laughter] that don't #have anything, that don't have anything to 
1 [laughter],#
0 A:  -- and, uh, got to get shirts out of the laundry, then I'm headed to the
1 B:  #[Laughter]  Oh, shit.#
1 B:  I hate it #[laughter].#
0 A:  Okay, #uh,#
1 A:  Yeah.  I don't like, uh, country particularly.
0 know, Billy Joel, uh, who are singers, song writers, you know.
0 B:  -- I have been out of town, uh, traveling --
0 B:  So, right, now, I have not been to any [laughter].  I have been missing out
1 A:  So.  Uh, I started anchoring last, uh, anchoring, uh, 
0 A:  So, I wish I could.  I wish I did have the motivation to get out and do
1 just cannot do that.  So,
0 she is not around.
0 A:  Wow.
0 B:  -- and that is a little less trau-, uh, burdensome or boring to be walking
1 here and feel real good.  There I could barely make a couple of miles
0 B:  -- but, uh, nearly five hundred people. #((How)),# 
0 B:  #Yeah, not lost in the# in the crowd, huh.
0 that, e-, I'm amazed that, uh, at the one place I was working, uh, what they
0 A:  We've kind of been waiting with baited breath.  We're the only hospital
0 had one in a long time.
1 and get really fat [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Yeah.  Well, I was kind of pleased that, uh, when I got back that that was
1 B:  Do you have horses?
0 of stuff --
0 B:  -- you know, especially when you, um --
1 A:  -- #that's because there's a high# crime rate.  Yeah.
1 B:  That's, um, that's been like that since they, the first newspaper, you
1 because it's all so bad [laughter].
0 B:  Oh, is it really?
1 B:  It's hard to talk for five minutes on this [laughter].
0 returning it.
1 A:  What do you think about it?  [laughter].
1 stuff doesn't go over too well.  She, 
0 A:  -- my wife will poke her head downstairs, and she'll see the lady screaming
1 A:  -- you can't be screaming at them [laughter] too much.
0 A:  It seems, uh, I don't know, I was pretty, uh, I'm not, I, I don't like
0 B:  #Yeah.#
0 B:  And, uh, they would charge, I think the rate was eight hundred dollars a
0 with the kids for fun.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  Oh.
1 A:  Yeah, they, they don't fight at all.  It's just pulling dead weight
0 B:  Once you get them o-, to, over to the side of the boat, because they're,
0 know, go for capital punishment or not.  But, it's not used in Arizona.
1 B:  And he was really, you know, he was off the wall, so.
1 B:  Oh.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Wow.
1 B:  Yeah, the bakers wear all white [laughter].
1 A:  Oh, Italian I guess.
1 B:  Yeah [laughter],  
0 A:  New clothes and stuff.
0 B:  Um.
0 A:  -- but I'm pretty short, I'm five four, and so that really doesn't flatter
0 A:  Those are nice.
1 A:  And it, it's just like a chore to pick up my feet.
1 know, like exercise or something for your feet.
1 B:  #Oh, well.#
0 B:  Ha-, have you ever seen those bunnies --
1 B:  Oh, uh-huh.
0 recycling center that, in fact, we went to it yesterday.  You drive up and you
0 different from that milky looking plastic.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  That's right.  Yeah.
1 A:  Lunch bags.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  So, it's like, well, no, Honey.  So that, like, so that was one reason we
0 went to show her what people did with their, their stuff when they recycled it
0 B:  we really don't, but.  And then she was like, well, what do you do with
1 had, nearly had a heart attack over.
0 awful lot of social [printer] change lately, and we-, and, uh.
1 through,# 
1 those changes.
1 changes as they #come about.#
0 threatened with a reduction in their company is extremely high right now.
0 you will be able to work out your circumstances so that you can live
1 B:  Yeah, well, I picked ev-, almost [laughter] every category,
0 A:  [Laughter]  You'll talk about anything, right?
1 B:  They said, you (( )) said pick fifteen categories and, 
1 five minutes.  I don't really garden very much [laughter].
1 A:  That's, that's why I read it, because I don't have to relate to it
1 A:  Well, thank goodness [laughter].
1 A:  Oh, yes [laughter].
0 B:  Yes [laughter].
0 A:  So what do you find yourself spending most of your time doing with them.
1 A:  And I think about all we ever do is just pick up after her, it seems like
1 they have been spoiled to death #[laughter].#
1 [laughter].#
1 B:  #What do you mean# you didn't do this #[laughter].#
0 A:  We're just, like I say, we just, all I keep hearing is from my mom, is just
1 worked on it, like every third day I had it [laughter].
1 pulls it out every so often, cleans it up, puts it back in the garage
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  But again, I guess it probably does go back to the same thing of women
0 changes in the past generation or so?
0 don't think as far as the kids and, and the house and everything --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 um, uh, the Soviet Union [tapping] fell apart.
0 on end and for, you know, bare shelves at [throat_clearing] in these hugely,
0 inconceivable to me to think that anyone or any entity, I don't care what it
0 A:  #Well, as far as# I'm concerned, I can change pretty doggone rapidly, and
0 B:  It, uh, makes it tough because (( )) you know when they come in with scores
0 that, and yet they don't qualify, but it's unfortunate that they don't
1 A:  It was kind of getting to me, where, where I'm doing the same thing
0 A:  Oh.
1 A:  I was going to say, that could be difficult [laughter].
0 B:  -- I find that when I ride in a cart, I play better and I think it is cause
0 just got finished planting a bunch of tulips and daffodil bulbs.  So, those
0 They last for a long time then.  So, if you start putting them, you know, you
0 A:  Yeah, that is not, there is, uh, things written for Doc Severenson and, uh,
0 A:  #They are# mostly, uh, mostly Mozart.
0 B:  He plays at our Church a lot.  In fact he is playing this Sunday
0 B:  Yeah, I, uh, I basically agree, uh, I have mixed feelings I guess there
0 B:  -- sometimes I guess it does effect the quality of health care somewhat.
0 years and, uh, [laughter] he is doing it for the money.
0 B:  Yeah.  Yeah.  They don't --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  No.
1 B:  #That is, that# is one thing I would recommend too [laughter] --
0 A:  Yeah, that is true.
0 B:  [Throat_clearing]  You know, I would never give up that.
0 to college and, uh, during the summer we would camp out at the lake.
0 B:  So, we are at the end of the mail route #[laughter].#
1 A:  Right down the street.
1 A:  -- #and so# then you have no money, 
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 A:  Uh-huh.  Yeah.
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 A:  Well, I live actually in Hewett.
1 A:  They are real bad.  That is where I got my last ticket.
1 little on the limited side.
0 @A:  Um,
0 B:  That's pretty neat, um.  Then I, I, I mean it makes sense.  You know, I
0 B:  Oh, well I will.  You know, eventually [laughter].
0 A:  But, uh, Kauai, I mean, the beaches are nice, but I don't know, just not
1 A:  And then, uh, where, where have you been?
0 A:  Yeah.  Isn't that fun?
0 A:  #Oh, the# weather.
1 B:  Oh, I haven't been there either [laughter].  You name it, I haven't been
0 A:  Yeah, because you don't have to worry about unpacking or anything like that
0 you know.  You put your clothes in your room, 
1 B:  Was it to Alaska?  Yeah, I am pretty sure.  That is right my hairdresser
0 A:  Yeah.  Right.
1 uh, the car I was driving back was a problem though [noise].
1 B:  -- I remember calling home and saying it is too pretty here.  I am staying
0 ============================================================================
1 B:  Oh, yeah.
0 A:  Its,  
0 B:  -- all the places that I had left for him were above huge humongous cactus
0 B:  But, that friend of mine that painted his house out there in your
0 B:  They only charged him for one gallon of paint.  Like thirteen bucks or
1 A:  Oh, my word [laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter]  Yeah.
1 A:  So, seems like that could get a little difficult to #do that but
0 B:  -- and compete with all the crowds since all the other people with, uh,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 were uh, black or Af-, African American and, and it seemed to me that if he
0 A:  -- from that.  And I really thought well, you know, one of their points
1 [popping].
0 B:  [Noise]  Do you buy, uh, do you buy much mail order?
0 B:  -- and I can, uh, I don't necessarily draw or do any of that kind of art, I
1 or do you,
1 A:  No [laughter] I cook dinner  [laughter].
1 hobby?  [laughter].
0 B:  -- uh-huh, READER'S DIGEST, REDBOOK, uh, lets see, GOOD HOUSEKEEPING --
0 --
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah.
0 @A:  Yes.
0 where do you think they're headed, so we'll have to talk about the future --
0 A:  -- with the Rangers.
0 B:  And I really think, I really think that, uh, that they ought to, I'm not
1 B:  #[Laughter] That's contrary to, uh,# popular belief, you know #[laughter].#
0 A:  I understand.
1 B:  Yeah.
0 professional of course.
0 wear coat and tie.  If I call on just, uh, a normal little dealer of mine, I
0 A:  Uh, I have been, uh, thinking about the topic and I think it's going to be
0 of the cases.
1 the issue becomes what do you do once somebody is found guilty, I suppose.
0 B:  Uh.
1 A:  Oh, okay.  You are having to be in reruns for that one.
0 B:  No, I haven't see that one yet.
1 ONES,
1 A:  Well, you don't have to [laughter].
0 A:  That is right, yeah.  I am a transplanted Te-, Okie.
0 I never ever turn the T V on during the day.
1 B:  Uh, congratulations.
1 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 your weight goes up or anything like that?
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 Africa, actually, and on my way #home from there.#
1 A:  I know, it's true.  
0 darn expensive --
0 spend a lot of time in one place, or travel to whole bunch of different places
1 A:  #So.#  Yeah.  So is there any place you would try to talk me into going to
0 B:  Uh.
1 B:  I'm ready [laughter].
0 A:  This is only a little small city.  Uh, we have, uh, [cough] excuse me,
0 B:  Uh-huh, they do, and I don't think there's an ounce of [laughter]
0 B:  Yeah, we've been.
0 in question is around their own family.  The, uh, hospice program provides a
0 B:  stuff and a, uh, and a visiting nurse at least every other day, et cetera,
0 #is,#
0 A:  Well, that's really sad.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 though, #you know,#
0 having a gun leads to tragedy.
0 signal is distorted.    
0 B:  And my, I have through the sixth grade.
0 A:  -- you know, gangs and stuff like that and, uh, that, you know, some day it
1 A:  Oh, boy.  
0 third when you go from three to four bedrooms --
0 A:  -- we're, uh, I'm probably older than you, I'm fifty-two, but anyway, I, my
1 A:  -- graduating college, so I can board up their rooms, 
1 B:  Oh, yeah.  
0 represent fourteen different hunting and shooting type companies.
0 B:  Uh, it's got an office down here in, uh, in, near Duncanville and we just
1 B:  I think.
0 A:  -- come back and,
0 but also we have a boat back there --
1 A:  -- a few things like that and, course, you know, [breathing] I don't know
1 be caught dead, like, being out that late at night.
1 don't have fences at all [laughter], 
0 B:  Austin's about a million people.  
0 A:  Yeah.  And it's on a cul-de-sac, uh, which makes it nice because there's no
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].
0 B:  Did you -- 
0 A:   H-, he's tender hearted fellow.  
1 A:   Anyway,
0 so I know we won't be watching as much as we do now [laughter].
0 B:   That must be tough.  
1 B:  Well, that was, uh, totally unbelievable.
1 freeze.
0 A:  Yeah.  
1 B:  [Inhaling] Oh, my goodness.  
0 A:  -- because we did need new carpet [laughter].  
0 afterwards --
1 B:  Or you might get depressed [laughter].  
1 with this funny weather, 
1 big freezes now, but, I know one big one will come [laughter].
1 B:  It always does.  
0 =============================================================================
1 A:  Well, I'll have to do that because I love golf.  
1 B:  He's got a real ugly stance, but [laughter] -- 
0 A:  He does?  
1 before they realized that they had two other bad processors #[laughter].#
0 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  #spot [laughter].#  
1 B:  I don't think he #ever did.#  
0 A:  #[Laughter].# 
1 B:  -- #before the oil slick ever cleared up [laughter].#  
1 A:  #[Laughter].# 
0 B:  Uh, I have a few favorites that I use more than others and, uh, I try to
1 A:  Yeah, I use a few.  I, uh, I watched my grandmother go into debt 
0 B:  -- huh?  
0 B:  Well, that's good.  I'm looking, right now I'm k-, kind of looking for a
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  Two years.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  And -- 
0 B:  -- [Laughter] just out of bed [laughter].  
1 A:  -- have control over -- 
0 B:  -- where you can call all over the place, uh,   
0 A:  But,  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  #Huh.# 
0 was about eighty percent.
0 going to be ready for, she's in a day care --
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  -- or not.  
0 B:  -- I don't know how it is in your community.  I know that, uh, in some
1 obviously I found something worth, worth doing there and have, 
1 I wanted to go with a small company [laughter].
0 B:  And, uh, third, or even fourth sometimes was the salary.  
0 just, uh, I've sort of slowed down, you know, we use this, rather than do it
1 B:  -- and the lawn looked great [screeching].  Uh, now that, that he's
1 is about the same amount that a farmer would put on a whole entire crop.
0 B:  Lawn Doctor.  
1 really good [static] so that we can get the g-, grass growing rather
1 B:  My voting experience?  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 it a small portion of the newspaper, but the local newspaper really goes into,
0 @B:  Well, I, I think, uh, so far they've been pretty good except the medical,
0 scammy now #[laughter]# --
0 B:  #Uh-huh#.  
1 B:  #Wow#.  
0 words quite a bit.
1 the minor leagues for [laughter], 
0 A:  Well, you'd think that the, just the personalities, the people, it, it
0 B:  -- or they wouldn't be there.  
1 yell too loud at them because you never know, 
1 B:  Yeah, you would, you would have be one of those coaches with the soft
1 A:  That's right [laughter].  Just sweet talk them as much as you can, because
1 A:  -- I kept going so [laughter].  
1 B:  -- and I don't follow it much, but it's obvious that the people around me
0 A:  -- kind of like Indiana and basketball or something.  
0 than he is.
1 A:  Oh, gosh, yeah.  
1 suddenly there isn't a deer within fifty miles.
1 A:  -- so there's, everybody had deer coming out their ears.  
1 A:  Uh, we don't do much in the way of entertaining.  
0 A:  Yeah, do you have any children?  
0 B:  -- #so he's not like a ch-,# -- 
1 B:  She's in, she's in control with the Shepherd.  
0 B:  Oh, yeah, uh,    
0 in the house and, 
1 B:  As a matter of fact, we got two dogs fighting right now.  
1 A:  [Laughter] Do you?  
0 A:  Well, maybe I better let you go and go solve the conflict there [laughter].
0 A:  -- and it was usually in a little place called ((Calucci)) Creek.
1 B:  That's great [laughter].  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  So actually, we'd been camping for a long time before she was born
0 B:  Uh-huh, that's, that's kind of fun.  We did that once in Yosemite, too.
0 uh, the camper arrangement.  I know that they have tent cabins --
0 B:  It's a little bit better arrangement today.  
0 A:  Oh, yeah.  
0 A:  Oh, really?  
0 A:  Uh, yeah, I've been to Virginia Beach and I've been up to the, uh,
0 A:  Well, I think the furthest west I've ever gotten is the Grand Canyon.
0 accept the fact that I got what I needed.
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].
0 A:  Okay.
0 after the south part of --
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 uh, I'd just have to say what they're spending is probably enough, simply
0 A:  I feel like just saying, uh, safe sex is not the answer.  It's --
0 B:  And, uh, because you never know what's going to happen [laughter]. You
0 B:  It just sort of keeps that going.  
1 A:  Well, yes, I do.  I have a T I P C.  
0 paper up there at, at your office --
0 A:  Uh-huh, I saw a, fact, I believe the one I saw was a three eighty-six also,
0 had a TV on in the background.
0 A:  Card yourself or,   
1 B:  Uh, it's, it's easy to let them get out of control.  
1 A:  -- and,  
0 B:  -- it's the same with credit cards.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Yeah, it just doesn't seem possible, does it.  
0 B:  I didn't know what I was doing.  
0 @A:  -- and, quite honestly, with the exception [laughter] of being involved in
1 body out the hole, 
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
1 B:  They just go across the boat and get a, and tie it up and go in, huh
0 ============================================================================
0 A:  Hi.  What do you think about gun control?  
0 A:  -- way of getting the guns, but certainly the -- 
1 gun and, and don't really [laughter] want one, 
0 B:  I, I don't know, I don't know where I really come down on it.  I mean, I, I
0 never had any handguns or anything like that.  We had, you know, had shotguns
0 @B:  Yeah.  
0 do a ham and a turkey and --
1 A:  Yeah, you can,  
0 then you can put your potatoes and carrots or whatever else --
1 A:  -- not yet [laughter].  
0 there, you know.
0 A:  Yeah.  
0 I'm, I'm a lady, but this, I heard this on a Christian program and it was, uh,
0 A:  -- rise to, to more activity on our part.  Uh, I've, I've said for years
0 how I feel about your spending my money on art that I don't think is art.
0 B:  Right, absolutely.  
1 B:  We only see the tip of the iceberg only. 
1 B:  Yeah, really.  
1 A:  -- show?  
0 A:  Yeah, that, that looks intriguing.  It looks kind of,   
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  Oh, yeah.   
0 B:  Oh, heaven.  
0 A:  Yeah, that's right.  
0 A:  That should be really fun to, to watch.  
0 B:  Uh, right, act-, -- 
1 B:  Uh, can her makeup come off the upholstery [laughter].  
0 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  Oh, yeah.  
0 A:  -- lots of fun.  
0 A:  You know, educationally.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  Well, I have an eight and a half year old daughter who's taking
0 B:  real good child care at a, uh, pretty reasonable price, we think.
0 choose in the marketplace.  I don't know what it's like around, uh,
0 A:  [Noise].
0 A:  -- and I guess I liked the corn.  
1 A:  Oh, you guys sound pretty self sufficient [laughter].  
0 B:  [Laughter] I do the same thing.  I have a whole pile of them saved that I
0 A:  Okay, here we go.  
0 B:  Yeah, I guess, still want them back in Oakland, huh?  
1 A:  That would be nice, yeah, but, uh, I don't think that's ever going to
0 B:  And, there you go.  
0 A:  Yeah, I was wondering for sure what time it started.  I thought it was
1 B:  It's hard to find stick shift cars anymore.  
1 A:  [Laughter] I found that out.  
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 like, you must be crazy when I,
1 B:  Yeah, uh, of course, I like gadgets and, and, uh, fun things,
0 B:  -- I'd love --
0 B:  -- fascinating, you know.  
0 A:  That's true, yeah, I, I'd have to, I'd think once or twice, but I think I'd
0 A:  (( )).  Yeah.  
1 these things [laughter].
0 A:  #Uh-huh, uh-huh.#
0 I thought was fun.
1 I'm not quite sure how I'd even pursue #finding the rest,#
1 from you.#
1 B:  Well, we got the bloodhound, and the rabbits and the bloodhound didn't mix
1 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  Huh.  
1 he's going to call you tonight.
0 B:  -- it's just really gotten out of hand.  I mean, he has called and
1 A:  Sit side by side, 
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  Well, I'm thinking about going back to rabbits.  They were quiet,
0 even jobs, you know, on an even keel with men, a good percentage of them are
0 @B:  Okay.  
0 Switzerland and that was pretty fun.  I also have visited South America and
0 A:  THE LAST EMPEROR, yeah -- 
0 interesting.  Well, we just had a real awful time because we didn't speak
0 ===========================================================================
1 A:  -- #because I,# you know, unfortunately I, I, I don't have the control you
1 A:  -- what did I get,  
0 B:  -- their interest rates so badly --  
0 A:  -- higher interest rate, uh --
1 I just refuse, I won't get any card now, I've, I've got a good rating and I've
1 B:  Yeah, so you're a cheese head, huh?  
1 B:  It's, it, yeah, I mean, it isn't Washington, D C, but it's, there's,
1 s-, [laughter],
1 B:  You know, that's, that's their motto.  
1 B:  -- that they were all, uh, even, t-, I forgot what you call that where you
1 B:  That's right.  
1 couldn't breath [laughter].
1 B:  And then the truth is, it then became cooler weather and then we sold our
1 B:  And I never, I always hope that the owners didn't have the same problem,
1 and,
0 B:  [Laughter] for those sort of beautiful old homes now.  
0 guest bedroom up around the ceiling --
1 B:  Okay, I don't know what that was.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  -- #more personal# mud, mud throwing than anything else [laughter] --
0 give her about a fifty, fifty rating.  She --
1 B:  Well, this is an unusual topic.  What do you think about it? 
1 @A:  [Laughter] Yeah, I, at first I, it took eight times to find you
0 person in the Utah area, one person in the Washington area and that person can
1 haven't had a reunion since then.  They just show up at funerals and weddings.
1 B:  -- passion, huh.  
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 [child_talking] they're moving the prime time schedule up from, uh, eight to
1 A:  But, who was involved.  That's, I guess that's the story to tell, huh
0 convenient and affordable to swim in.  But, uh, what university were you at?
0 A:  Uh, actually, I am working at a university right now.  I just graduated
1 [laughter].
1 A:  So, 
1 sentenced to seven to ten years in North Carolina, the average serves six
0 B:  because it was just boring for, after about a week.  
1 A:  Is that right?  
1 program is THIS OLD HOUSE.  Has been for --
0 B:  Yes.  
0 B:  -- it's just, that's pure hatred between the Israelis and the, uh, Arabs.
0 B:  -- what they v-, view as reality is just simply opposite of what we view
0 and, I had a friend of mine that got back and --
0 cause.
1 A:  Yeah, you know, I, I find that gardening for me is just, uh, it's expensive
0 A:  -- dozen for one small area --
1 B:  -- a little while later when you have to take care of everything
0 B:  Oh, let's see, I still have onions growing --
0 A:  It's kind of a small city, so I've been going to Modesto which is larger --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Well, uh,
0 A:  -- of Vietnam being to encourage him to, to be more defensive in his
0 the case during World War Two or any of the other wars.  Uh, people just
0 A:  Um, I know my husband has heard about that and thought that that sounded
0 B:  Probably.  You probably bread them and, and, uh, you know, like with corn
0 A:  And then if you bought, if you bought it, there were two couples that, two
0 A:  -- you know, and they're really, really good.  But, um, when you were
0 A:  -- when I get down to them.
1 B:  -- #uh, Dave liked it a lot.  Huh?#
0 A:  [Laughter]  Like, like STEEL MAGNOLIAS, he didn't like that.
0 uh, very few families have, uh, health care insurance or any kind of, uh,
0 A:  #[Throat_clearing].#
0 time I went in to have it treated it cost two thousand five hundred dollars.
1 thought Dallas was real green,
0 A:  -- in Mexico, and, uh, we really enjoyed that trip.
1 B:  But I married a Texan, and they have a way of dragging you back home.
1 out of their, uh,
0 A:  -- in the quilt.  I didn't piece it or anything like that but, uh,
1 A:  Yes, exactly.
0 B:  -- I really didn't do anything else.
0 B:  -- things do change from time to time, don't they.
0 A:  It's one solid piece about thirty feet long.
0 B:  -- and then they have premade and bevelled, uh, legs and braces, and so I
1 A:  That's very, very close, I, as they say down south, you done good.
0 B:  -- and I think that's what important for a lot of kids.  Uh, in my case, I
1 A:  [Laughter] No.  #You go right ahead because I,# 
0 numbers game.  I don't think that's right, if they're, especially if they're
0 best students, they're taking top three percent that have tested out, you
0 B:  I adore it.
1 A:  -- a yard.
1 A:  I couldn't even grow weeds in the house.  
0 A:  -- of a house plant of her mother's.
1 A:  there's a couple of those stalks over five feet tall.
1 A:  No, well, we came close, we got really close.  
0 B:  My wife and I used to work at a research laboratory for the government --
0 B:  Oh, definitely, #oh, definitely.#
1 A:  Yeah,
0 would like to set my priorities straight [laughter] and set, and --
0 A:  Yeah, I think that's, that's the only thing I wrote down also, because
0 B:  That's right.  Well, you know, if you've ever gotten anything, you know, in
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  -- they (( )) over there in New Jersey.
0 A:  I know.
1 B:  Yeah it is, because one day I listened, you know, and it was [laughter],
0 B:  #Taking C, okay.  Is that just# standard C, or C Plus Plus?
0 A:  Um, I'm not real sure what the difference is going to be between C and,
0 B:  #Whose book do you# use in Pascal.
0 B:  Oh, yeah.  It's hard to put down those [laughter].
0 B:  -- was I ROBOT, and --
0 B:  Huh.
0 B:  I'll be darned.
1 years --
0 B:  Well, while I was working I got enough, I read on the job a lot, of course,
0 A:  -- you know, it's probably about twenty by, I don't know, twenty by six,
1 ========================================================================
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  Yeah.  Well, it was something, I don't remember the exact details, so long
0 growing up and, and, but he's al-, never wanted to spend a lot on a car,
0 being easier to steal than the, uh, American cars?
0 B:  There's a lot of, of car theft going, going on in Dallas right now.  I
0 A:  Yeah, because he, he thinks the newer ones is like a soap opera and the
0 B:  #Okay.#
0 B:  -- they raised the deductible and,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  We're self-insured, but Aetna is used to administer the program, but Cigna,
0 A:  And you have a retirement program and all that?
0 A:  Right.
0 A:  Okay, Ron.  
1 probably go back to buying them, because I don't care to lease them
0 A:  That may be the problem.  You, you may, you may need to be hit from
0 expen-, then I get it back and two weeks after that, I'm driving it in front
1 and runs in the back of me.  That's another twelve hundred dollars worth of
1 and so I put the cover over it then to keep the ice and snow off,
0 A:  [Noise] {sounds like hand over the telephone receiver} so I haven't had a
0 B:  I just had, you know, that just happened a couple day of, I guess it's kind
1 there's nobody to talk to, there's only just a,
0 B:  As far as, pri-, uh, invasion of privacy, I, there really, you know, I
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  You, they want to know, uh, where you live, how long you been living there.
0 pockets until about a month later --
1 you know.  So, uh, you know, if, we found, you know, the years we don't do
0 A:  -- um, each family, um, does something, [lipsmack] um.
0 each nationality.  It ranges anywhere from Midwestern cooking to Japanese.
1 A:  Yeah.
1 some sort of dessert in the house.
1 them away before anybody sees them.
1 all had to have the recipe.
0 style, you know, I mean, you don't peel your potatoes when you cook them --
1 A:  Yeah, #think a lot of the,#
1 A:  Yeah.  We don't even like to go out to the Mexican,
1 A:  Why don't you start, because I'm sure you've seen more movies than I have
0 B:  Well, let's.
1 A:  Yeah.  Have you seen any lately?  
1 B:  I cannot think of the name.  I'm so bad with names of movies.
1 B:  Oh.
1 B:  Uh, I could probably tell you more that I want to see than I have seen.
0 B:  What about, um, FRIED GREEN TOMATOES?
0 B:  That I saw for the first time, uh, probably about two weeks ago.
0 seen that many new ones.
1 A:  He looks real good.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah, and I think that's just too tough in a, on a --
0 B:  Um.
0 A:  Well, it is, it is a little disappointing, and there's some, it's, it's
0 look, for example, there were a couple of calls yesterday that were
0 [laughter] that the real, the real interesting thing is in the age of
1 B:  Oh, I know what it was, the answering machine must have run out of
1 [laughter],
1 school.  So decide now, what do you want to be.
1 and I was kind of like, I didn't even know, you know,
1 goes, okay, well, I think you should go there for undergraduate too.
0 A:  And I got a, a co-op deal at one of the schools in New Mexico, and I was
0 A:  New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology,
0 A:  and that choice.
0 available.
0 A:  Hi, my name is Dolphene.  I live in Texas.
1 B:  Oh [laughter]. 
0 A:  -- do you display these, sell them or, uh, how do, uh,
0 twenty third psalms, the last verse.
0 B:  Oh that's true.
0 B:  Taught to understand, yeah that is right.
1 B:  -- you have to carry them around you know.  They can't do a lot
1 A:  And he doesn't lick his coat --
1 you go pick him up, he looks so funny.
1 A:  Yeah [laughter].
0 B:  [Laughter]  Do your cats get along well?
1 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  -- you know.  And, uh, otherwise, it will go hide [laughter].
0 A:  Get in each other's way.
0 B:  -- but my chihuahua is older.  She doesn't care any thing about playing.
0 most of my information from the LARRY KING show and, uh, it was like nobody's
1 #[laughter] but,#
0 B:  #As long as it doesn't,# 
0 A:  What's her name?
0 with boats [laughter].
1 A:  my daughter plays for Hendrick.  Does that count [laughter]?  
0 A:  Yeah.  Well, I agree with you there.  I feel that there is, there is a
0 B:  Yeah.  I agree with that.
0 come, like from the men's side.  They can still feel it.
0 spiritual health, uh, it's really, uh, very costly.
0 incredible to see, [laughter] everybody with you know with tin bags of things
0 A:  But, I haven't really seen it around here.
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 their families.
0 out I think [laughter].
0 say.
0 cause that is where I am from, well when I went back there to be with my mom
0 {scream like noise} what do I do.
0 to teach four.
1 A:  That's true [laughter].
1 and and this was not really that funny at the time but,
1 off and walk back and put my hook on.  She'd call again to get,
1 A:  get the fish off her hook.  I mean, it went like that for a whole hour
1 B:  Cause I won't clean them.  That's,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  And it's like, I don't talk to, um, and they just jump on my hook.
0 B:  So him and I went out fishing one day and I, and he goes do you need me to
0 even doing that, the amount of trash we throw away is incredible #bottles# --
0 B:  Do they not ever, I mean, I don't know that much.  Do they not ever burn
0 trash or anything like,
1 B:  So, I'd, I'd have to say that I think that the J J BOYS have done well.
1 something,
0 A:  There's lots of speculation whether he will or not [noise].
0 A:  Well there is not much to talk about as far as where we think the teams are
1 B:  Not since the season is over [laughter].
1 players cause,
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  It's beautiful.  It's wonderful.  I love it, it's not January [laughter].
1 B:  February, you know, and I won't have to worry about it but,
0 B:  The last movie I saw in a theater was HOOK. 
0 B:  Uh, we want to go see J F K.
0 rented.  I think it was just on H B O at my in-laws house or something, but
0 worked at UNIVAC.
0 about three hundred pages of uh, nonsense to for --
0 B:  #And, uh# -- 
0 anymore of this, and I just haven't done, in fact, she was just telling me
1 B:  #It's a big irritant# to me. 
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 allowed.
1 true.
0 A:  Um, when I was a teacher, um, in Utah, I would generally wear, um, dresses
1 A:  #and# even when it, um, rained and snowed I just braved it and I wore heels
1 A:  #walk up to# the door but you're going to look nice for the kids
0 B:  That's right and it always makes you feel like you're a bigger person than
1 B:  You know, because the children will tease about where's your motorcycle,
0 B:  It's really different.  [laughter] Let's put it that way.  Are you not
1 A:  Yeah, but I never wore jeans because, um, I thought that was too casual
0 A:  Yes, it is.  
0 follows up and has such a reputation that others are happy to get their
0 B:  #well.#  
0 training, prepare them for life.
1 Christmas.  They play soccer and so you were down in that same area
0 A:  #As you# mature you, you recognize, um, how to present yourself in a public
0 A:  How do you get your news coverage?  
0 run by a group that operates here in Washington.
0 or something.
1 you know, just to get a different view, you know, or just someone different
0 A:  It's a little #draggy.#
0 B:  #and our# economy seems to, and this I think is one of the big problems,
0 we don't even have any mountains that are,
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 B:  And I noticed that I have to, 
0 understanding because I have some friends there that are Brazilian, uh,
1 I keep hearing noises this morning that make me wonder if our washer is about
0 B:  So I didn't, you know, 
0 this year and that's why, uh, uh, Texas El Paso is, uh, ((because then they))
0 B:  #No, it ju-, something that# happened outside of that, you know, and, and
0 A:  #and, uh,# really built the program, and they were supposed to, well they
0 computer and, um, [lipsmack] one of these eight millimeter camcorders.
0 B:  -- that was made in China.  
1 B:  So it's, uh, [laughter] (( )).
1 live in Texas I suppose [laughter].
0 products I've taken back.  Um, clothes is about mainly what I've, you know,
0 ============================================================
0 A:  #so that# you can attach it to an oven.  I've done that kind of stuff but
0 do a few of those things.
0 B:   #and,# and the cabinets were sort of old and it was just dark
1 know, you could whiten it but I never have [laughter].
0 left this cabinet just about, this one wall where the sink is to
0 B:   Yeah, we did eat out a lot.
1 the way through [laughter].
0 shelving out in the garage --
0 B:   Oh, no, no, there is nothing like that here either.
1 B:   #That's# right, you are.
0 B:  #That's right.# 
0 B:  Right.  And it, it's not up to the federal government necessarily to do a
1 can't produce something like M T V,
1 B:  All the fun things, 
0 A:  Oh, uh-huh.  
0 B:  Oh.  
1 B:  Yeah, it was and, uh, we, needless to say we ha-, we haven't done it again
1 Health Spa  [laughter].
0 B:   Yeah.
0 A:   Huh.
0 better if you know how to cross country ski #before,#
0 B:   Yeah.
0 B:  Well, I don't know about you, but neighborhoods just aren't like that
0 uh, I don't think there was anything on the menu, that, that any of us had
0 B:  And have some liberty.  And, yeah, we would go over there to, uh, pr-,
0 B:  That's, uh, that's interesting, Well, I was in submarines.  Uh,
1 B:  Well, that's what I've heard, it kills me [laughter].  Because I love
0 A:  two years, you know.
1 A:  I think they could too, you know,
0 dying of (( )) are in Canada.  #And, uh,#
0 B:  The bad thing I do is wood fires [laughter].
0 [breathing] Palestinian's and the Israelis fighting so much over who is going
0 diminished a lot lately too.
0 cooperation or whatever in return.
1 reestablish more normal relationships with us.  I don't know if that is in our
1 A:  I'm not sure what to do.
0 friends ha-, of ours had told us to go through.  And just things that they
1 A:  #You know, their furniture.# Once you move in your furniture [laughter],
0 have to put him into one.  You know, where I can go see it.  I, I'd be very
0 A:  Well great.  I enjoy music too and I, uh, one thing that I like to do, uh,
0 A:  Like my, uh, oldest boy is involved in soccer so we go out and play kick
1 B:  No, I never did. 
0 B:  Very much.
0 @B:  Well my weather right now it is rainy.  This is the most rain I think we
0 Saint Louis.  Always of these gray gloomy rainy days.  You know?
0 A:  But, uh, I have been here about, uh, well it's going on five years now and
1 north Texas overflowed.
1 was kind of like you.  I'm I didn't want to go back to Colorado because,
1 little chat about something, other than the weather,
1 B:  that's for sure.  Because I mean, he didn't look happy when we went by.
0 B:  -- so we tune for that.  So we had everybody nice in tune when the hundred
1 B:  I mean just pop, pop, bang, bang [noise].
0 as closely as you have.  Uh, I was really surprised that you mentioned, uh,
1 American made and Japanese and [inhaling] I am not sure which is the best.
0 B:  -- and it cannot be repaired.
1 A:  Uh, I, I don't know, ma'am.
0 B:  No, I am, uh, sort of in Fairfax County, working for, uh, one of the free
1 loaders on the government,
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  I think that's a really good point.
0 A:  And, uh, she, she found them and said Oh, I just had to buy them for you.
1 supply now.
0 A:  They are little green, literally pea size peppers.  They're just little
0 tiny guys and they dry up even smaller than they are when they're, they're,
0 put some on it.  It's just incredible but, uh, the number of ways that we come
0 they have to accept that's they are responsible for.  Uh, responsibilities is
0 A:  Yes.
1 A:  Yeah.  I somehow can't do that I, 
0 bothers me to see ladies out in combat or actually out in places where there
1 you're going to learn there is a lot of responsibility just keeping the home
0 B:  If they chose to go into the work force that's okay.
0 A:  And if they go into the work force, they should be treated as #nicely# --
0 A:  Okay. I press one don't I?  
1 A:  Okay, I have never done this before so [laughter].
0 responsibility.  It's yours.
0 B:  Right.
0 A:  #Then# I would be more #comfortable# --
0 have to do is try to think in that language --
0 strawberries or anything, but kilograms --
0 neighborhood of seventy something kilograms, you know, and it's
1 to the tip of his finger, or, you know.
1 A:  -- with our uh with our system,
0 A:  of measurement.
0 @B:  So you have a son?
0 A:  Oh yeah.  Well I am sure it was, you know.  But, uh, I don't know what the
0 A:  #Oh, gee.#
0 A:  And, uh, so we have, uh, a, uh, what do we have, Siamese.  All
0 A:  The whole.  Well, we have a spot just like that in our [laughter] kitchen,
1 like a child.  She wants to play.  [laughter] As soon as you get the phone she,
0 anyway, uh, so we really have not done much to the house.  We kind of worked
1 tried to bite me {talking to dog},
0 A:  Kay, uh, do you have any strong feelings one way or the other about our
0 and that sort of thing --
1 A:  #Good# for him.
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  uh, because really there's no sense of, uh, the joy of it like he once had
1 B:  Oh.
1 A:  Yeah.  I get the Bourne, supreme, the Bourne ones. I get them all mixed up
1 A:  Oh, all right.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  -- but, I think, I like to spend my time reading for enjoyment --
0 a loved one in the nursing home.
0 A:  #That's right.#  That's right.
0 together.  #And# --
0 A:  I'm real dis-, I'm kind of disgusted this year because I don't see many
0 B:  Yeah, I know who you're talking #about.#
0 number and I don't know if I was suppose to put in like my area code or what
0 B:  It's just beautiful.
0 B:  On his spring break [laughter].
0 like it's, it's like it was back in the sixties when ever Kruschev said he was
0 gone on strike --
0 countries, you know, and I saw that they, uh, Iraq and Iran had offered, uh,
1 [laughter].
0 B:  Uh-huh {very faint}.
0 B:  -- and I do know that the District of Columbia has a gun control law and it
0 A:  -- if necessary.
1 B:  Oh.
1 much for the trout.  I think I had rather have a catfish than I would a trout
0 look just like baby catfish.
0 B:  Yeah.  Most of the time, uh, if we catch something, we'll take it home and
0 eat it.  Uh, and you're right.  I mean I like to fish for trout and they are
0 B:  Uh, yeah.  Most of the time, uh, we just fished, uh, in the river although
1 B:  Yeah, I am now [laughter].  
1 B:  I mean we can wear jeans.  I'm not a jeans wearer but I wear pants
0 just anytime.  So, I, I usually buy maybe a lighter color,
0 A:  -- um, you know, dress up as much. 
0 A:  Yeah, so that will be great to wear, you know, units pants with the
0 @B:  Well, let's see.  My last home repair I put an office in my garage.  I,
1 B:  uh, uh, two car garage doors, and I, uh, I made an office out of it, and,
1 they needed a, a pre-inspection.  Okay?
0 B:  No [laughter].
0 A:  [Laughter]  Huh.  
1 B:  Yeah.  
1 gotten one.
1 A:  (( )), [laughter] maybe my neighbor will turn me in too [laughter].
0 A:  #Uh-huh.#
0 A:  But, but like if you were doing a ro-, if somebody, a residential person or
0 B:  #Uh-huh.# 
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  -- on and,
1 A:  Oh, yeah.  
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 =======================================================================
0 B:  #Right.#
1 B:  Uh, [laughter] well, 
1 we could afford more back then than we can now.
1 when you're younger [laughter].
1 I'm talking about firing him because he's so stupid that they would continue
1 get rid of them [laughter].
0 back, uh, you know, in the seventies and the eighties perhaps --
0 A:  #Yeah.# 
0 but I have in the past.  Um, [lipsmack] but anyway I do enjoy listening to
0 B:  The, uh, uh, uh, like I, I, I suspect my favorites, uh, are in the, uh,
0 one that they thought they had killed but they hadn't, and they had
0 A:   #And# so he says you really don't have, that he could see,
0 B:  And I'm Susan.  
0 B:  #she's# pretty healthy.  So --
0 B:  Oh.  What made you decide to get a puppy?  
1 for, to be with this dog to get some energy out so he can play with the cat
1 B:  -- jeez, I've had all colors and longhair, short hair, and no hair and
1 A:  Just because i-, I mean this dog is a lot of work [laughter].
0 A:  #Really?# 
1 B:  Uh, you know, it's, it's, it's, it is a hard one, because we don't have a
0 husband isn't working and, uh,
0 A:  And, uh, he works mainly on aircraft and he was working with Eastern and
0 force it.  Do you understand what I'm saying?
0 B:  Minor offenses, yeah.  
0 you do X number of volunteer hours, I think it's a hundred or so --
0 B:  we kind of got out of the, out of the habit.  
0 B:  Well, now, if you don't take any magazines, why did, why did you want to
1 B:  way to keep and, my wife's sitting here telling me it's because I'm a
0 A:  Yeah.  
0 A:  Yes, I love it.  
0 B:  They're like two thousand pages of advert-, uh, uh, of ads or something.
0 B:  Really?  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  There's more that I could get.  
0 B:  I guess.  
1 A:  I like it a lot.  I love it up here.  I like it better than Dallas
0 B:  Really?  
0 A:  [Throat_clearing] Yeah, one of my pet peeves is, uh, n-, uh, neckties --
0 A:  -- to put it on there securely.
0 A:  -- and aggravation, and unhooking it, and hooking it back up, and hauling
0 I was in college.
1 brother, 
1 A:  and he's still using it.  
0 B:  But, uh, we have wide variations and have warm weather when most people
0 B:  Well, my, uh, my sister lives in Houston and they, uh,
1 cold, too damn hot, too damn windy [laughter].
0 doing.  
0 things have now discontinued the recycling policy.  Like, it's hard
0 the, the demand isn't there.  
0 pick it up.  
0 Provo, Utah, I don't know if you're familiar with Utah at all, but
1 I thought, you know, this car turns on every morning.  I think I'll
1 A:   I understand that.  
0 B:   That you felt good about, yeah.  
0 B:  Or --
0 B:  -- similar to each other?  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  Yeah, uh,
0 B:  Oh, you do?  
1 into the percussion room and we got to play on every single instrument
1 like Ethel Merman [laughter].  
0 and then other nights, I think, gosh, I'm glad I'm not up there
0 B:   Yes, do you find you learn a lot on those shows?  
1 one just because, uh, I like the, uh, the husband on there. 
0 B:   Yeah, one illness will do it.  
1 conscience.
0 B:  Isn't that funny, how that -- 
1 the year before.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Um, how many different kinds of magazines do you subscribe to? 
0 A:  Well, right now I, I dropped PEOPLE, but we have, uh, BETTER HOMES AND
0 me.
0 B:  I don't know if they still do it or not.  
0 A:  Oh. 
0 articles.
0 A:  Yeah.  
0 somewhere to,
0 saying, you know, why do they have to be here, why can't they send
1 A:  No, wh-, where they at this year, uh,
1 around, h-, hit another two thousand dollar jackpot,
0 get paid all those big bucks to, uh --
1 B: I mean, seven foot doesn't sound that tall, but when you stand next to one
0 A:  I don't, no.  We've got a small, of course, this isn't professional
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 play or should he,
0 know)), the other team's choice not, not to play against him.  I think he's
0 A:  Yeah.  
1 two inches shorter [laughter].  
1 amazing that you can just put silk in the washing machine but,  
0 seam -- 
1 B:   [Laughter]. 
1 washing machines are made by the same company.
0 B:  Yeah, that's bad news, I tell you --
1 got to have policemen there to keep kids in class and,
0 A:  Uh-huh, that's true and I, I think that, uh, in, in our Utah school systems
0 B:  They're talking about going to y-, they're actually testing out, we just
1 B:   So, what do you think?  
1 you've thought about besides [inhaling],
1 B:   I mean, it is, we have the global village, you know, like,
0 A:   -- a good point.  
1 B:   Well, yeah, that definitely,
1 B:  -- think it's my turn.  
1 A:  Yeah, most of the time, or sitting out front [laughter].  
1 B:  Yeah, I know about that.  
1 the joke about the Ford --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 and tell my cat Nikki, I'll say, Nikki, I'm going to do my exercises,
0 A:  now.  And she can be upstairs in the bedroom, and I don't know.  She knows
1 B:  No, huh-uh.
0 A:  I, I did a fair bit of hunting when I was growing up.
0 waiting period --
0 days.  I mean --
0 weapons, because, uh, I mean, how many [laughter], how many rounds does it
0 establish one regulation, they're afraid --
0 us a couple of years before we replaced her.
1 to get back,
1 and she'll sit and she'll put her foot up to shake hands.
0 teaching them new tricks.  Just as long as you give them something to look
0 and it, uh, they just pick a last number social security numbers and that's
0 B:  Yes.
0 soldiers, they, uh, they make sure they, they run them correctly and, uh, have
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 know.
1 B:  Did he take that back to California with him?
0 lot of parents, especially where I'm at, I have a lot of the responsibility of
0 A:  Uh-huh.  The women's rights and #all these# --
0 A:  Yes, and until the families change, I think that we'll continue to have
0 A:  -- old basic morals and,
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 um, I'm overweight and, uh,
0 A:  Well, that's good.  I mean, at least you've given some time to it every
1 day.  #It's not as if you're not doing anything.#
1 B:  there and you have to put on these clothes and, 
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 opened,
0 know, a kind of a research --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  #Or on to a larger place# --
0 A:  -- you from one thing to the other without having to hassle and, uh, #you
1 it's the only way to go [laughter].
0 A:  Uh-huh.  Um, how do you, uh, oh, I would imagine that the weather's pretty
0 just, the old scraper brush on the outside is I guess what I'm speaking of.
1 that problem?  [laughter].
0 involved in it.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 end of April.  So they're about the same, uh, range as your grandchildren.
0 church activities, and they, uh, we just moved here, uh, this summer, and so
1 like we're with them all the time [laughter] if,
0 B:  -- and, uh, we, we struggle to, uh, I do anyway, not to work so much that
0 sometimes it'd be just nice to come to the office and, and work straight
0 B:  Oh, I didn't know that.
1 English, because it is hard to understand the words sometimes.
1 A:  Yeah, my roommate signed me up.  He got a bonus record, and I got a lot of
0 B:  -- and after I got the first roll back, I knew the camera wasn't it.  So --
0 B:  Well, I took it back, and I figured it was, I don't know, something like an
0 B:  -- because you bring it home, you're like, this sucks, [laughter] you know.
0 B:  Yeah, and I think, uh, the way I was raised, my parents always, uh, used to
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 they would send me something back saying, you know, uh, do you want to
0 A:  Well, Liz, do you own a boat?
0 B:  I find it very relaxing.  I think they're, they're absolutely beautiful.
0 I, you know, I really, as I say, would like to learn to do it myself.  Just
1 likes to cut it right, right to the [laughter],
1 so you don't go over.
0 B:  I mean, I like ski boats, too, and the speed and, you know, going around,
1 B:  Yeah, drop an anchor, and, you know, there've been the times when the
0 B:  So if the customers are willing to pay it, then you get a profit.
0 A:  Oh, these little things are so cute, though, you know.  
1 B:  Oh, that's what I want, is a Shop Smith [laughter].
1 B:  Oh, does he?  Oh, that's my ultimate dream [laughter].
0 B:  Oh.
0 B:  -- getting right back into a routine again --
1 A:  Uh.  
0 A:  Wow.
1 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  -- but [laughter] uh, now I think an invasion of my privacy is when someone
0 think of that would really be.
1 digging for?
1 well, actually yes.  I can say definitely,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  Oh, well.
0 A:  I, there, I think country music, I don't like the real old twangy stuff
0 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  -- you know, the, at, uh, the, I guess the rock and roll side might be so
1 said Ma, I can't believe you're going to watch that.
0 B:  So I watched it and really, I, I just thought he was terrific.
0 but, uh.
0 !!05
0 hundred and eighty thousand on the Toyota that I had in eighty --
0 B:  Yeah, that, that was incredible.
0 A:  -- you know.
1 B:  Yeah.
0 A:  [Laughter] Yes.
1 B:  Yeah, he's just a, a, a little boy with a lot of money.  So.
1 B:  every team with the Indians been doing that now.
0 whatever, and, uh, and get to know, so all the cousins get to know each other
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Um.
1 B:  So, I could wear the same thing every single day and,
0 half of the day.  I just get up and get dressed like I was going, you know,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  I remember who you are, now.
1 and my robe.
0 B:  Brigette, I'm Jackie.
1 B:  Yeah, um, there's this station called The Blaze from Chicago, and that's my
0 A:  Pretty sure they don't.
0 B:  Oh, yeah.
0 B:  -- it was just really neat.
0 ===========================================================================
1 B:  Well, I weighed in a fish, my husband didn't.
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Wow.
0 B:  So my husband got one and the rest of didn't get anything.
1 wrong inside my car, so I, I was waiting for my car to collapse, you know
1 [laughter],
0 B:  Oh, you do?  Good for you.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  -- keep within a budget.
0 B:  I married a Texan, #they don't always tell you# --
1 B:  -- um, and I did it for three years and hated every minute of it
0 B:  -- you know, at my child's skating lesson or something like that --
1 daughter wants to know where the spaghetti cheese is [laughter],
0 A:  She does, she's, she teaches at, um, a small two year college here.  She's,
0 find out almost anything about your personal history, not to mention, change
0 A:  You mean your history in regards to, uh --
1 A:  Oh, bull, Mrs. Slaubacher?
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Right.
0 B:  -- and that's great, even, even now we go camping, in fact we have one set
1 of those kids, and I was like, Golly no, you're not married yet.  Oh.
0 A:  #See.#
0 --
0 A:  -- heart rate up for a while?
1 B:  I, I think so.  I think so.  And, I, you couldn't pay me enough,
0 it gets awfully hard a lot later on.
0 B:  Oh, yeah, yeah, they see no point, you know, we've gotten away with it this
0 difficult for the schools to try to control.
0 B:  Kind of away from the crowd --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  [laughter] They like to cut the pictures out and paste them on,
1 B:  -- to think about first grade.
1 clothes yet,
1 B:  -- and, uh, I couldn't, uh, get away with blue jeans and a T shirt.
1 A:  [Laughter].  
0 A:  -- and you have to walk across campus and stuff, so you really wear a lot
0 A:  That's what I plan on when, wearing to work when I go to work.
0 B:  -- I'd say that, uh, most of the employees, uh, um, that we have really
0 B:  Right.  I think most people, uh, don't want money, um, it's been my
1 B:  Yeah,
0 A:  How many, uh.
0 #And the re-,#
0 a part of the, of the action based on their efforts and not based on being
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Now is that a, is that a full size van or,
0 A:  Yes.
0 A:  -- but they're just not practical if you have kids.
0 A:  -- Chrysler was the first #to do that.#
0 if I can't take some of the #depreciation# --
0 go, but unfortunately, only the dealers can get in [laughter].
1 A:  Wow [laughter].
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 get super care, you know, you can pay anything you want.
0 and, and enjoy life while I can, and, you know, when I get to that point of
0 A:  But why don't I just enjoy life now?
1 B:  -- [Laughter] that I listen to,
0 A:  Oh, gosh.
1 anything.
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  -- but still kind of pop, too.
1 B:  I mean, some people sing, and they have their faced all contorted,
1 B:  like it hurts them or something [laughter].
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Trends.
0 B:  My name's Dan.
1 that he doesn't like it but it,
0 A:  If you, if they were, I think you should choose and, you know, and work
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  Yeah, there are.
0 A:  Okay, all right, so am I.  [laughter] Okay, you understand the topic?
0 A:  Oh.
1 A:  Oh, okay, they should make consecutive, I don't like this concurrent stuff
1 them do something, you know, I don't know, make license plates, you know,
1 they're doing what I would do with it.
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 ==========================================================================
0 B:  Do you?  
1 woodworking.  I get so sick of making [laughter],
1 get a band saw and a router [laughter].
0 know if you've ever heard of those.
0 A:  -- and then I just kept on through high school and then [inhaling] got my
1 A:  -- [Throat_clearing] tole painting.  
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].  
1 B:  Everybody, sure.  I, I started when I was in, uh, third grade,
1 drums, I played the clarinet, I played the trumpet.
1 B:  Uh, you know, whatever and so I,
0 A:  Yeah.  
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 A:  Yeah, me and my brother both took the classes and we got pretty bored quick
0 [laughter].
1 piano lessons --
1 B:  Okay.  
0 A:  Do you sing at choir at your church?  
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 sing in it [laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter] Yeah,
1 B:  But after one semester of that, I said n-, no,
1 B:  And besides that I kind of learned I wasn't really that good [laughter].
0 A:  Just kind of,  
1 B:  Oh, yes, oh, yes.  
0 A:  Do y-,
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  No, I've done that [breathing] lots of times.  
1 A:  Uh-huh, uh-huh {faint}.  
0 A:  -- a six, a three and a, about a one, one and a half and --  
0 A:  -- at pla-, at bigger companies.  
1 B:   Yeah.  
1 B:   Well, isn't that the tr- [laughter].  
1 A:   -- for one of them, so, uh, that's why I say I can't quite -- 
1 B:   -- married and you won't care.  
1 B:   Sh-, [laughter] she had a two year old and then she had -- 
0 A:   No, there's no way.  I, I make time to eat.  
0 B:  Uh, um.  I don't know, it's just, the whole thing is just kind of amazing
0 A:   I mean, and she went and saw her every day, like I said, and
0 and I haven't had a lick of problem.
1 A:  -- and I was a little nervous about some new technology [laughter].
1 A:  Yeah, that's interesting because, I mean, I, I was hearing, just o-,
0 is very important and keeping a budget, uh, below your income is important
0 A:  Uh, I mean, we don't, I don't, we don't have anything on the computer that
0 B:  Well, that is called smart -- 
1 B:  -- budgeting.  
0 @B:  Well, uh, I, I like, I don't like real big cars.  I like fairly sporty,
0 A:  [Noise].
0 B:  That's just a l-, out, out of my range [laughter].  
0 B:  Oh, okay.  
0 much lately [laughter].
1 congested and a lot of traffic so it's, you know, we use the clutch a lot
1 B:  Well, I can, too.  I'm, uh,
1 ============================================================
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Oh. 
0 A:  [Throat_clearing]. 
1 A:  Um, I was much too young, I was born in sixty-seven, so.
0 B:  Well, technology, but also mor-, morals and things like that.
0 A:  #Uh-huh.#
0 A:  Yeah (( )).
0 okay, so we don't have a small town, and okay, so we move, but, you know,
0 B:  Yeah, I think, I think because #it's a necessity# --
0 and, um, to, um, Lasson Park, which is a vol-, a volcanic park.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  But, it, it was, it was very exciting and really very nice, and, um, I
1 experience, it sounds like.
1 English, so it's like, my kids pick up really funny words,
1 they're saying [laughter].
0 they could pick up any kind of language.
0 A:  So.  That, that is a problem.  What kind of criteria do you look for when
1 A:  Uh-huh.
0 more for multi tasking, which I suppose is also like a Macintosh.
0 A:  Well, see, what do you do?
1 B:  Well, I was doing some of the same stuff, but doing it more slowly
0 B:  Well the S P thirty goes up to eight --
0 B:  Right, but then you do, don't you get paid when you take your own, uh.
0 possible.
0 B:  Uh, no, not really.
0 stuff, and, you know, I, I don't know, I guess it's bad, you know, to go
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 life is not going to improve.
1 ways to hand-, I mean, I just heard the attorney general, I think it was, on
0 B:  -- we have the death penalty, right?
1 B:  -- things which aren't really related to #whether,#
0 A:  #[Laughter].#
0 A:  Yeah, it'd be easier if at least, if someone was, you know, sentenced to
1 one of our funnest games we like to play together is hide and seek, and
0 B:  -- and we just kind of keep them at home --
1 B:  Utah's a lot better [laughter] than Texas.
0 A:  Oh.
1 #today, right,# 
0 the, um, U S Department of Labor, whatev-, I'm not sure might be a different
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  -- and also on the question of, you know, just getting employment.  I'm,
0 A:  Are you?
1 just walk right in,
1 A:  they're always unlocked or something and.
1 that I was like what,
0 makes me feel safer because I'm around someone.
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  Yeah, a friend of mine's house, he was gone all summer, but he has a house
0 just, uh, we have a different terrain here [laughter] --
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  No, we're not into skiing.  It's just too expensive.
1 seek and [laughter].
1 A:  Oh, boy.  
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 A:  Oh --
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 they're faced with, uh, the possibility of having to, to cut jobs in their
0 unfortunately part of the, just how the system, uh, operates now.  Um, we-,
0 forty-five percent, and, um, they also do, um, they pick up on another day of
0 B:  -- in particular.
0 B:  -- except for the cat.
1 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  But he's a very possessive cat.  He, he loves my son, it's his cat, and
0 A:  He meows and wants to get in the bathroom and, while he showers, it's so
1 B:  Yeah, yeah.
1 that, uh --
0 A:  Oh [laughter].
0 to start with, either.
0 B:  This is the very first one I've, I've talked to.
0 A:  Yeah, it keeps changing #because they, they# --
0 A:  [Lipsmack] Yeah.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Well, in the large corporations, the one thing you have --
0 B:  Yeah.
1 every time.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 but I enjoy it.  I do a lot of it.
0 A:  It's expensive.  You can get a lot of money in that #kind of stuff.#
0 B:  Yeah, infra structure is in, is in, I mean, we, we, we have hurt ourselves
0 B:  Um, I mean, this, this, it just seems so, you know, so ridiculous that it
0 B:  Right, I go to Georgia Tech, #um.#
1 B:  [Laughter]  Well, after I found mine I had to, I had this,
0 B:  Yeah.
1 A:  No?
1 A:  -- in about three weeks for his two week,
1 B:  -- but since he married me and,
0 B:  -- and he bought himself a pair, too --
1 B:  -- and took me out country dancing.
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  Are you sure cowboys know how to swim?
1 A:  and he just rocks and rolls in the bakery [laughter] to country music
1 me sane with these kids.
1 B:  -- boxes and sawdust on the floor, you know.  
0 we had done it, and had, had problems getting, you know --
1 everything that I buy goes bad just after the warranty runs out.
1 B:  Uh, watch out.
0 automotive air bags, the safety air bags.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 them [laughter].
0 A:  -- research branch, and I guess another one that, that I rank up there high
0 B:  Okay.
1 B:  Way back when.  I don't know where to get any new software for it
0 People who are, we're pretty involved with computers in all sorts of other
1 settle down, and nothing seems to --
0 and we've got people who understand these cultures, but I always wonder if
1 B:  Right.
0 A:  Right.
0 A:  No, I, I, I, I just get a sense of our walking in, over and over and over
0 or you look back in history, these people really understood what they're doing
1 A:  Oh, which was, uh, in the line of business that I'm in, which is mediation
1 that you've planned for is there.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 in July, and, uh, we'd go out to eat on Sunday after church or something like
0 A:  Oh.
1 a real good [laughter] workout.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 builds --
0 A:  -- and then, um, talking with people and just hearing what's going on.  #((
0 candidate perhaps, you know, ten second blurbs in which to, you know, to say,
1 A:  If they put it out in a video, or on [laughter],
1 it would take, it would probably take the whole news hour [laughter].
1 B:  That's going to be crazy that time of year here.
0 time on sports, and I think that, um, that's fine, I would like to see more
0 B:  -- uh --
0 B:  -- um, then, then that's okay.  They can, it becomes constitutional, I
1 because you decide whether you're going to die or not.
1 B:  -- right, they tried to get it proved safe before the F D A would approve
0 =============================================================================
0 A:  Yeah.  I'm, I'm a college student so I haven't been, you know, a jury
0 A:  Was it civil or criminal?
0 A:  -- maybe we can, um, you know, work more on, you know, they have all these
1 charged it up, and now we're, you know, paying for it.
0 A:  So, you know.  [inhaling]  I don't.
0 B:  Um, I work for Morton International and make, um, I'm a process engineer.
1 budgeting that I wanted to [laughter].
0 tax credit approach.  Now, myself, I'm not married, so I don't have any kids
0 know, what the different things that you would look for, now obviously, uh,
0 B:  -- you know.  
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  In fact I used to date a guy, that reminds me, when I was back in
0 B:  Well, that, yeah, would definitely be a positive part, because they'd be
0 B:  I'm into recycling.  I've got several friends who use me as their recycling
0 B:  -- and I think that's a real worthwhile project, and that's really what got
0 B:  Oh, any.
0 A:  -- non, noncolored or nonfilm type paper.  Just --
0 A:  No, we have perforated for personal printers --
0 A:  -- and, uh, [breathing] either you, you do, you went country western
1 B:  Or you didn't do anything at all, right?  
1 A:  Yeah [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, he's popular here, and --
1 [laughter].
1 never turn off, by the way, will get, this guy votes.
1 because you have all year long to think about those payments,
1 A:  -- aluminum cans be recycled just by tossing them out in your yard,
1 deposit, I know that if you discard anything, somebody will pick up,
1 B:  -- that talked about some commodities that are being recycled.  Uh, they
0 A:  Yeah, I've heard that, you know, a lot, a lot of the, you know, more
0 you can't just, you know, take a bunch of stuff and recycle it.  You
0 B:  Um, but, um, yeah, the, the, the article, uh, mentioned that it very much
0 they cancel you a couple of years after you get in-, into the home. So it
0 A:  Yeah, (( )) those costs are so high, that without something --
0 B:  -- it seems like you could hire somebody part time.
0 aren't --
1 A:  -- I just hope I can remember what they are [laughter] --
0 down in Texas, uh, just today or yesterday, didn't you have one, an execution
1 B:  Oh, yeah.  I think it would, too, you know.  Sometimes I think they ought
0 A:  They do it with alcohol?
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  -- for the cars, and we work around a lot of explosives.
0 then you get fired.
1 and B -s are going to be in and next week,
1 paying attention, because I, I really don't know.
0 A:  Yeah, uh, I guess I basically agree that, uh, do you think it's okay for a
0 specified industries --
1 A:  (( )) I pressed the button one, so we're recording right now.  I'm sorry
0 to do these things.
0 B:  Uh, also one thing that's helpful, and I don't know if your family's spread
0 B:  Uh, my immediate family, you know, my, my parents and my brothers and
1 B:  -- and [laughter] I mean,
1 A:  Uh-huh.  Uh, that certainly is the most straightforward.
0 difficult, finding one that you really like, and that doesn't have some, uh,
0 --
1 A:  -- at this age [laughter].
0 B:  Uh, she was in college actually --
1 A:  Yeah.  Uh, but they were pretty close, at least compared to me and my
1 A:  Um, uh, do you plan to have more children?
1 @B:  [Laughter]  I walk.
1 A:  It's tough.
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 B:  -- this is a real problem here, that they get a little slap on their wrists
1 B:  Yeah, good old boy stuff [laughter],
1 B:  It doesn't get very cold in Texas,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 --
1 B:  -- of course we don't, uh, want to go #hunting.#
0 B:  -- if they, if they see you're up, you know --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 cover and things like that.
0 B:  The, the problem that I see is, uh, what do we have instead?
0 B:  Here in Georgia, uh, we don't have, a, a sentence of life in prison without
0 A:  Right.
1 A:  Yeah, exactly [laughter].
1 B:  [Laughter].
0 A:  You know, in that case, we're, we're spending money in the, in the judicial
0 B:  Yeah.
0 uh, it's a little more difficult to recognize an individual's performance --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 free if they remember [laughter].
1 easier.
1 apply that to another one, I try to do that, but it's not always, 
1 know what we'd d-, do.
0 B:  But my husband gets paid once a week and I get paid every two weeks.
0 twenty, thirty minutes every day to school and that, that adds more [noise] to
0 A:  Do what, ma'am?
0 A:  Uh, no, she goes, they have a class there every Tuesday and that's what
0 B:  In that it seems to me that they are swayed more by emotion than, uh, by
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 uh, Othello.  You know where he says kill all the lawyers [laughter].
0 B:  -- as we think of, you know, as, as --
0 uh, I don't know it's kind of a,
0 A:  It's a hard problem, isn't it?
1 B:  You know, I've, walls are coming come down in Berlin and,
1 B:  we [laughter] --
1 heck.
0 just, did people just accept the responsibility or are we able to test things
0 and said [throat_clearing] you were suppose to, you talk about capital
0 there, the jury finds them guilt, then, in everyone's mind it's not actually
0 B:  So, I can, I can see letting, uh, letting for example the judge make the
1 A:  oh wow.  We do everything else fast [laughter].
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  [Inhaling] So, #how about you?#
0 order but, uh, she's, uh, Alzheimer's I guess --
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 possibility of making mistakes that, uh, I would rather opt for life in prison
0 A:  Well, what do you feel about it?
1 A:  Well, that is true. 
0 the system where you're interested in someone or not rather than the other end
0 B:  Um.  Well, I think murder.
0 know --
0 B:  -- you know.  Where they couldn't hurt anybody else --
1 B:  I don't know what it is.
0 carry around, uh, you know, if, I, I, I travel around the city a lot so that
0 on the way to the next site --
1 B:  #One# for your garbage and then [swallowing] #I have no room.#
1 A:  And th-, well, at least, maybe it keeps someone from stealing, you know.
1 them exorbitant taxes were under ten percent.  It was rid-, you know,
1 percent than it is to have to,
0 A:  [Inhaling] Yeah, I think that, uh, one of the reasons that our taxes are so
0 taxes get raise so.  I don't know.  I'm not really into politics, uh --
1 A:  Yeah, farm report and oil reports.
0 A:  -- and they kind of you know, if they were going to show that why didn't
0 ============================================================================
0 A:  Um.
0 A:  Uh,  
1 like what are doing.
1 know spent the most time with him.
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 your brothers [laughter].
1 B:  No.  No, it's just uh an accident [laughter].
1 A:  I don't happen to be in the part of the city that does that though
0 [laughter].
0 A:  I see.
0 ============================================================================
0 days.
0 B:  Right.
0 A:  That's true.
1 B:  -- I guess recommended it to somebody and see if they thinks it's feasible
0 A:  Um.
0 B:  -- I would probably take the recycled product.
0 but I figure that's got to be the story of my life anyway, is making car
1 guns.
0 B:  Personally.
0 part of any, uh, government sponsored programs or anything.
1 limits [inhaling].
1 they do it, [noise] but they do that [laughter].
0 watch T V news that much now.  If I had access to C N N, I would watch T V
1 have somebody that isn't on drugs.
1 have their lives together --
1 A:  True [laughter].
0 B:  -- and it gets them into trouble.
1 B:  No kids yet.
0 Like in math and science and stuff #like that.#
0 A:  Yeah.
0 lot, well, industry right now is just going to have to, uh, you know, well in a
0 B:  Right.
0 B:  Yes, I work for North Carolina State University which has about [inhaling]
0 A:  -- so I am not interested really in child care benefits --
1 A:  Well, you know if you were married to a doctor then you might not need so
1 B:  I don't know about that [laughter].
1 [inhaling].
0 --
0 B:  Uh-huh [children_yelling].
1 A:  -- I'm a doctoral student and, uh, I anticipate getting a full time job
1 kids are convinced that that's going to be their cars.
0 A:  Oh, I see.
1 car and go around slamming doors until,
0 B:  No.
0 not many of them do.
0 B:  [Laughter]  Uh no.
0 B:  For a while she was there, uh, when I got home, but then, uh, and she
0 A:  I, uh, I have been in two,
0 B:  -- where okay if you're a nuclear inspector --
0 B:  [Laughter] So, bu-, I just went through one recently --
0 were productive probably.  That's --
0 the low, low cost of, of uh, [child] [smack] property --
0 quality #life# --
0 A:  Yeah, that's true.
0 A:  [Laughter].
0 A:  And I go to school at Georgia Tech which is pretty much located in the
0 A:  Okay and do you and your wife have a budget plan for your finances.
0 @B:  Uh, yeah we do.  We, uh, uh, basically there's the, you know,
0 A:  I see.  Uh [throat_clearing],
0 so, [inhaling] we re-evaluate our budget and we sit down and just write from
1 at night --
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  -- than we should have,
1 B:  And then once that was gone, well [laughter],
0 Is that the,
0 that I never thought I would be involved with and if I was in private practice
0 B:  -- so, I listen to that too.
1 B:  Not really [laughter].
1 A:  What [laughter]?
1 B:  -- left me, everybody's left me.
0 A:  #They're# still together.  #They're still# --  
1 A:  (( )).
1 Stones when they last toured, but it looked like leather day at the geriatric,
0 lifestyle choices consi-, --
1 nineties lifestyle #[laughter].#
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  #Yeah.#
0 uh, debate going here [laughter] get #some verbal usage for the computer.#
0 ===========================================================================
1 A:  -- than indoors, but shoot they can sit and work puzzles and read books for
0 B:  Uh-huh.  None of them have started school yet?
1 the school,
1 A:  Yeah, that's an adventure.  I think it's going to be harder on mom than
1 baby to school [laughter].
0 B:  Oh no [laughter].
1 A:  -- but, I just think [inhaling] oh, I'm just not into that right now.
0 B:  Well, that's good.
0 A:  And it's more than even paper or something like that.  There is more energy
0 A:  The problem with everything else in health care is, is the cost.
0 B:  Yeah.
1 might play tennis --
1 B:  Well, it might not [laughter].  
1 [smack] everyone tries to be the secondary --
0 B:  Oh, okay.
0 A:  Right.
1 B:  My grandmother doesn't [laughter].
0 enough that we can consider putting some away --
0 A:  Uh, well I think, either my wife or I would like to pursue advanced degrees
1 B:  Uh-huh.
1 wise but, uh, the other side of it is, so, not much on that side of it
0 Idaho --
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 was important to me.
1 that you are also a professional [laughter] salaried employee [laughter].
1 A:  [Noise] Wow [laughter].
1 A:  -- and I, I when I ride the bik-, when I ride my bike to campus, I
1 locality, I think it was Portland, ended up burning,
1 doesn't want their landfills closed and sued,
1 if you have this cup,
0 A:  -- longer than a week.
0 A:  #Uh-huh.#
0 A:  Oh definitely it's,
0 =======================================================================
1 B:  So, uh, what are your camping experiences like?  
1 that it didn't act-, cover everyone,
1 couldn't stay too long, but we drove on that morning to, uh, Las Vegas, so
1 he said he'd lived on a farm too long and that was too much like camping
1 anyway #[laughter].#
1 B:  They're getting started early this year, I'll tell you that much.  The,
0 B:  S-, but, not any real significant benefits.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  Uh-huh.
0 Congress person.  Uh, I think, I think there really is a, there's a lot they
0 B:  -- uh, one of the radio stations over here listed off every single one of
0 B:  -- don't notice that, that other part of --
1 B:  Actually very,
0 A:  Right.  
0 A:  Yeah, it does seem like the special interest groups are what, what keeps
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 that's costing, that's costing the taxpayer m-, multimillions --
0 that I pay taxes in,
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  Well, I think we pay it in other ways.  
1 ===========================================================================
1 A:  So, uh, I just, I, I'm just basically against it.  
0 if you've shown that you have such an utter disregard for other individuals
1 A:  And so, so, I'm sort of in this quandary, you know, I mean, either you have
0 constantly abused or what other, other, brother, or, uh, other cell mates, you
0 recycling center, but it was costing them, uh, about forty dollars a ton to
0 A:  I -- 
0 B:  Yeah.   
1 B:  No.  
0 B:  Right.  
0 B:  Right.  Well, I, the last place I lived was really, it was in New Jersey as
1 is because we're sort of on the outskirts of this rather plush area so
1 A:  Having a ready supply of cans.  
0 B:  Okay [laughter].  I thought they were afraid of putting them out of work or
1 A:  Oh, okay, so that's real simple.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  -- any,
0 B:  It's, it's pretty much covered.  
0 A:  Or is that,
1 A:  -- I swear it's at least second or third grade,
0 supposed to, if you watch the news, you're going, your opinion is going to be
1 garbage you can put it.
0 fourteen thousand dollars to overhaul.
0 only market, is anybody going to want to bother making leaded fuels.
1 A:  Well, I'm not sure whether you're the lucky one or I am [laughter],
1 B:  -- you didn't say which way it went.  
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 might be worthwhile would be to say that you need, unanimous verdict to find
1 B:  Huh.  
1 B:  That's ridiculous.  
1 B:  -- I'm outside a lot.  I work on airplanes, so I do a lot of walking there
1 running, but [laughter],
0 A:  Well, it's, you know, I'm a student and I'm in school all day and I'm
1 and, and eat [laughter],
0 A:  Well,
1 of walking like you are and do calisthenics or something, I don't know.
0 A:  Yeah {faint}.
0 @B:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  -- uh, just real careful with the money, you know.  What little we have
0 B:  Uh-uh.  You know, I mean, I, I, I've never liked credit cards --
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 that, that have an ax to grind, so if somebody thinks that the judge is,
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 because sometimes, you know, if, if it's dealing w-, with a more technical
0 B:  And, you know, you just see those kids going down the road.  Now, not all
1 A:  -- was that, then lesbians must be God's chosen people.  
0 A:  But, uh, 
0 B:  And from corporations around the, around the city, you know, for AIDS
0 B:  -- and that, and, uh, I don't know, I guess I think that, that, uh,
0 variation on the other Daytonas that they have out, but I'm real happy with
0 B:  -- there was some problems right from the start with that.  
0 B:  Well, I think it's probably about an eighty-seven also.
0 small, uh, not real big car, uh, but lately we've been, uh, [breathing] trying
0 A:  Yeah, we just recently bought a second car and we ended up getting a Jeep
0 where, something roomier where people didn't have to duck their heads or s-,
0 A:  Yeah, I was a little, uh, surprised to find, I, I'm not the sort of person
0 B:  Yeah.  
0 A:  Yeah, I guess you never know.  In fact, they had a whole system, uh,
1 B:  Um.  
1 difficult to go back on it.
0 that much more an effective communicator and I think that's the same problem
0 science and yet it's really in depth at the same time.
0 A:  Yeah, me, too.  I really, if, if I, when I move, when I go to my next job,
0 A:  And you get to call in across a modem?  
1 [laughter] I usually do is go to the library and study for an election
1 B:  -- I don't keep up on current events very well at all.  
1 A:  Okay [laughter].  
0 B:  Maybe once every six months I'll, I'll find something that's interesting
0 want to talk to people about, so, what do you think about the situation in
0 Uh, but now I have a child --
1 A:  Oh, yeah, I'll bet [laughter].  
1 B:  Right.  
0 B:  Okay.  
1 Japanese or the, if I like them enough to purchase one.
1 B:  -- as you're walking through that little tour in, uh, Munich, it's kind of
1 A:  -- and no two of them are alike [laughter].  
0 B:  Uh, I think, well, something on the order of a three series, it's probably
0 a time of recession that, you know, for the deficit spending to help pick up
1 A:  Yeah.  [laughter]  There's,
0 B:  We just try not to pay any more in than we have to, uh, we pay in a
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  So, uh, how do you, how do you find out what's going on?  
1 B:  Yeah, uh, I generally, uh, I don't know, I go to the N B C sometimes.
1 little, a, 
0 B:  Uh, I don't take them.  I read them, I've read them --
1 A:  there's nothing else I can do,
0 B:  I've gotten into some, uh, you know, we have a, uh, news service on our,
1 A:  -- and you can run, and you can run the, uh, the ticker across the bottom,
0 that's simply not the case.  Uh, you take away the guns, uh, from law-abiding
1 uh, luckily, it's sort of a big cat, I mean, it's about twelve pounds,
1 A:  And, uh,
1 actually thinks it's a cat,
0 B:  Feed them and all that.  
1 A:  -- sometimes I think, wow, if I had two cats, I'd just, you know, get a
1 B:  -- and I think that that's pretty much,
1 we were never broken into and th-, but the people on either side of us were
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
1 B:  And I don't think that they, uh, do a very good job of distributing them to
0 reduced mine to be in line with, uh, a more reasonable appraisal.
0 A:  What are they doing out there?
1 around Boston eat a lot of yogurt so,
0 guess that one was, didn't work very well, uh, uh, but,
0 A:  Yeah, yeah, uh, I guess, I guess nothing else, but, uh,
0 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  -- the, the, uh, break-up of -- 
0 A:  -- than they are now, like you're saying, the drugs -- 
1 thing, the very first thing a lawyer attempts to do is get an ignorant jury
0 really, [throat_clearing] it's, it's kind of a show piece any-, [laughter]
0 A:  -- but I'm on an internship up here for a year and then I go back down,
0 A:  You know, and also, the whole, whole thing with noise.  My mother, oh, she
0 deliberations.  Some of them did say that, you know, when they were the only
0 B:  Right now I'm in college and I'm on work study -- 
1 disposable, dis-, yeah, discretionary income,
0 very well.  It's, uh, it's helped us, so that we haven't been, you know, too
1 A:  -- and there's no surprises in that [laughter].  
1 A:  That's true, that's true.  I found that out.  
1 B:  The kids, they are real people and they are interesting and,
0 A:  Well, we had ((ni-, wh-,)) growing up I guess I can talk about us.  We had
1 B:  #I never# felt spoiled.
1 A:  Right.
1 B:  Well, ((so, so)). 
0 where I would have said, no, that no one would deserve to die for, for a crime
0 hanging by the necks --
1 you know you should make frequent checks and, um, to check in on them when
0 to see how many teachers you have.
0 B:  Right.  
0 directly from high school into, into college?
1 B:  Well maybe, maybe you can figure out how we can stop this inertia that's,
0 A:  And that they get paid.
0 A:  #Uh-huh.#
0 account, okay?
0 A:  I-, that is, uh, that is something I've heard.  Uh, I had a friend, uh,
1 vacation or, you know, sick days or health care or anything really so.
0 A:  Huh.  
1 B:  [Laughter]  That's a whole other topic -- 
0 B:  Now that's a big win.  
0 different #(( )).#
1 B:  #and# [breathing] that can be part of continuing education, maybe for
0 A:  As opposed to the corporat-, insurance paying the bills, 
0 A:  #(( )).#  
0 computer and have it check the arithmetic.
1 B:  Right.
1 A:  [Laughter] With the desperate fear that by the time they are old,
1 substantial other commitments to take care of,
0 B:  [Laughter].
0 also have a, a, uh, company stock purchase plan which I contribute to.  And
0 B:  #Uh-huh.#
0 worked out a very extensive year long budget --
1 A:  #really keeping# track of the pennies and that stuff.
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 stuff but he said, well, you just do this and you fight once and, and,
0 A:  Yeah.
1 A:  Uh-huh.
0 that, um, the agency that, uh, that license, um, agencies to care for kids
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.   
0 A:  Right.  
1 B:  Yeah.  See I work for a really small company.  It's just me and my boss
1 A:  Oh, wow.
0 A:  So.  Uh, um, the only other thing I can think of is, uh, stuff for things
1 moved us from Dallas to San Antonio and then back to Dallas.
0 B:  So, but I guess it was pretty nice because, you know, we got to experience
1 million draft cards to start a war #[laughter] you know [laughter]# --
0 pro-, there are places we've been over the years that perhaps we shouldn't
0 think we've screwed up a few times just like everybody else.
1 B:  Okay.  Well, I mean, it's before my time too.
0 A:  Huh.  Yeah.  My only concern about projects like that, you know, (( )).  My
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  And then otherwise, there will be [throat_clearing], the majority are
1 homes and, I don't know, you wouldn't know anything about a Texas governor
0 A:  Okay.  Ann Richards is our governor in Texas and she's really cracking
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 My in-, families was up in Maryland --
0 B:  And, you know, the nursing home was the, you know, best facility to put her
0 needs that wouldn't get met because they were just old people.  And then, the
0 A:  ((Well)) it's, uh, I'll start off here.  Uh, I don't know.  I get,
1 T V #scene here in the,#
0 about the, uh, either the economics or, or other wor-, news events going on in
0 the U S on the other hand.  And if you go up to, uh, Canada, [noise] those
0 A:  #[Laughter].#
0 B:  Uh, I like classical music.  I like rock and roll.
0 B:  Not the, not the kind like Kenny Rodgers and stuff like that.
1 B:  #Oh, I# see.  Are you married at all?
0 B:  #Oh, rea-,#  Were they religious?
0 B:  And he's always liked it and, and, you know, he's probably about
0 her.  She's not rock but --
0 headline news or C N N itself and, uh --
0 you've ever seen it.  But it's a, it's a cable, well you don't have cable.
0 the news for the incredible stupid or comatose.
0 A:  -- like on education and stuff.  
0 B:  Yeah, I was thinking,
0 A:  Uh,
0 A:  Uh, I work for a fairly large company.  It's got eight thousand people.
0 A:  Yeah {faint}, well, it depends on which company you work for.  I know that,
1 just goofed up the medical insurance and the car insurance and stuff and
1 A:  Yeah, but they, no, no longer [laughter].  
1 A:  I don't think so.  
1 B:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  Well, growing up, I was always, uh, fairly athletic and always, uh, you
0 A:  Oh, yeah.
1 B:  -- right after work or,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 don't want to turn around and go back out again [laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 these miles and I didn't need them but I, I changed the front, I had the
0 B:  Uh, you know, I know that there are a lot of colleges and universities,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Uh, you know, to, going to college, university is going to take four to
1 ===========================================================================
0 know, thing to you, but, I think there should be some kind of curbside
0 B:  That's the only way I could really,
1 something --
0 A:  Oh, yeah.  
0 B:  If I, if see a, s-, if I see a pile of cans or bottles or something --
1 B:  -- I've never seen you before [laughter].  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  Can bring them in.  
1 B:  The hostile planet, I think,
1 A:  It really is a small,
1 uh,
1 B:  Kind of radical, I know but,
1 B:  Everyone had a two way wrist watch T V -s on their wrist,
0 worked here for a couple years and then he went to Ghana in --
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 B:  Yeah.  
1 B:  Yeah.  
0 thing to, to be --
0 B:  Yeah, it, we're essentially the same, although, some, some laboratories are
0 A:  Yes.  
0 like that?
1 I forced to watch quite a bit of sports.
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
1 B:  Yeah, we have to, fight over the remote control.  
0 few years ago and what we did was, uh, [breathing] since we didn't, weren't
0 A:  Yes, you know, trying to see who knew where who [laughter] else lived and
1 okay, we like him.
1 threaten him in the summertime that we might just shave all of his hair off.
0 B:  How much does he weigh now?  
0 B:  And [throat_clearing] he's our spoiled child right now, too [laughter].
0 B:  No, what is that?  
0 B:  -- it, it, it's the type of thing of what exactly am I getting out of the
1 if it's actually there when we actually,
1 eighteen percent of what I was spending every year,
0 A:  I don't think anybody pays too little.  
0 A:  ((We've)) got a five percent sales tax.  
0 B:  No, I, uh, I really think that, here in Indiana at least we pay a, a whole,
0 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 that a lot of the, the H E W services, although they're providing necessary
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 cut.
1 A:  Right.  
0 B:  And that could ruin somebody's life.  
1 almost, jeez, man, maybe twenty years, 
1 B:  almost since I last had any of that, that sort of stuff, uh,
1 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 A:  Oh, yeah, yeah.  
1 A:  That's good. 
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 other, uh, dogs that I have encountered.
1 B:  Well,  
0 B:  -- the poor animal is doing it in self protection.  
1 B:  Huh, well, I suppose you were surprised.  
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 --
0 because somebody has a child or, uh, likes children doesn't really mean that
0 and I didn't want to run an institution where that was the case, where all we
1 B:  That would be okay [laughter].  
1 listen to,
1 music to annoy you,
0 have, uh, not a lot of point to it.  I was really tired of, uh, the Michael
1 A:  Oh, yeah.  
1 test of time.
1 philharmonic,
1 isn't he still alive.  You know, we're, we're,
0 B:  [Throat_clearing] Okay.  
1 B:  Right.  
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  I'd like to do some sailing.  
0 A:  -- which is fine.  
0 A:  Great.  Yeah, how do you like it down there in Texas?  
1 [laughter].
0 there?  W-, w-, where did you say you were from?
0 A:  What's that?  
0 out in circulation.
1 that she had the most problems with were the people that ran the prison.
1 didn't see the classroom, uh, and, [laughter] hopefully never will, but, uh,
1 safe, so next thing you know she's teaching in a maximum security prison.
1 a liberal but,
1 we normally have to round up another child to keep him [laughter] occupied.
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 B:  Your, your wife doesn't like that wilderness camping, does she?
1 B:  My wife thinks Holiday Inn's wilderness camping.  
0 B:  So, I don't know, do you all, do you fish and go camping, you take a boat
0 and, and just fish off the shore.
1 A:  [Laughter] .
1 hooks in your ears and stuff like that.
1 B:  Casting, that's all my boy cares about.  
0 A:  [Talking].
1 and one morning we got up, there's snow on the ground.
0 a little narrow road --
1 their tent up.
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 price performance and #things like that.#
1 sounds like everybody's had their chance to make their money off it and
0 happy with the, the set up.
1 B:  So how serious is the,
1 interests, I guess.
0 cases in which there's no smoking gun.  But, there, too, there are also cases
0 but in civil cases, I think a majority rule by, by jury would be sufficient.
0 A:  Well, I mean, I think, are you just trying to say that criminal cases are
1 B:  Well, in that case,
0 B:  -- this is the way things are and it,
1 B:  Just because that's what everybody says I should get when I get a car,
1 them.
0 B:  Well, you're single and,
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  -- I've got this poor pitiful Pontiac and thing breaks down every other day
1 [laughter] so,
0 A:  [Laughter].
1 budget or not [laughter]?
1 B:  Then you don't have a budget.  
1 B:  -- you know,
0 that be an, an alternative.  I'm, I'm not too sold on the mini van idea.
0 A:  So they have a bulletin out on it?  
1 spending the taxes.
1 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  Worried that they're not going to get enough attention?
0 B:  Yeah, and you, and you don't always even know if it's, it's going to be the
1 [laughter] or the phone rang or,
1 people who show up positive on one drug test, they're immediately discharged.
1 B:  [Sneezing] Ou-, ou-, our judicial system is in such total chaos.
1 B:  [Throat_clearing] You know, that's a, I've nailed the problem down but I,
1 A:  [Laughter]. 
0 Atlanta area, our crime rate is just astronomical, yet, you go out on the
1 that's paying for that [laughter].
1 [laughter].
1 system, you have to get the lawyers out of it [laughter].
0 B:  I once,
0 bottles, plastic milk bottles, then they'll pick that up for free so there's
0 B:  The rec-, we live in Plano and they started off recycling by, uh, putting
1 B:  Or even bottles.  
1 B:  Right.  
1 B:  It's, I don't know, it, it can be, it's not as easy [laughter],
1 you put them in the dishwasher.
1 B:  We all do it [laughter].  
0 on their, their, you know, territory and everything, but --
1 a lot of people were really upset with the policy at first.  Particularly,
0 like [laughter], uh, we have a lot of parties and stuff where they serve
0 B:  Yeah, it's really, it's really bizarre.  Uh, particularly, like where we
1 circumstances.  I guess it's an eye for an eye [breathing].
0 care to make sure they've got the, uh, the right person --
0 A:  -- just totally inappropriate.  
0 B:  You mean, do we have -- 
0 logistically, we just haven't been able to get our act together well enough to,
1 B:  Well, that's, I think you can take that nice simple, nice simple
1 B:  So, what are they doing down in, uh, Georgia?  
1 that we need more or anything like that.
1 eventually, uh, like Klaus Von Bulow
1 A:  Yeah.  
0 financials at first and, uh, that's part of the reason he became a nominee is
1 B:  Oh, plenty.  Way, way more than I can stand down here.  
0 everywhere, as I see it.  Garth Brooks is outselling Guns and Roses so,
1 those guys were.
1 B:  I mean not, inhuman.  
0 A:  And they've done that every seas-, every year for a while [laughter].
1 B:  Oh [laughter].  
0 to get into the habit of just having that time reserved but,
0 =========================================================================
0 B:  -- then at the same time, raping them all, so, so that's kind of like a
1 and, uh, the apartment like would be very easy for just about anyone to break
0 case, I was surprised, uh, so happened this person worked at the same place, I
0 B:  Uh-huh.  So you think that, uh, majority, majority rule is good enough for,
0 professional judges, uh, you know, know the ins and outs of the system better.
0 sentence a, uh, a criminal to, for a certain amount of years that we don't
0 really know what that means.
1 B:  -- uh, but, I guess, uh, that would take a major constitutional change here
0 B:  Well, in terms of, of immediate expenses like clothing, uh, I purchase
0 A:  Liberty Mutual?  
1 and we spent so much time trying to, to make sure that the boys are okay
0 Buying a car is, uh, something you're contemplating, I take it.
1 it's so bad that I need a four wheel drive, I probably ought to be home
1 been guys in jail for six years and the other guy admits that he did it and
0 A:  Well, yeah, I mean, the system isn't perfect, I mean, it's run by a bunch
0 about it afterwards and then they try and get out of it.  [inhaling] And, uh,
0 B:  you can't guarantee that they wouldn't escape -- 
0 B:  And I don't think that, that rehabilitation is effective.  
0 A:  Right, uh-huh.  
0 A:  Uh-huh.  
0 B:  -- then I think they should be eliminated from -- 
0 A:  [Laughter] Right.  
1 B:  -- and so we really only have one Dallas newspaper and one,
1 A:  Yeah, they're thick.  
0 B:  [Throat_clearing].
1 [laughter] who fall into that,
1 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 A:  Okay [laughter].  So, yes, I think we do have problems with taxes
0 money --
0 Press Club, and he was talking about how people in the government say, well,
1 A:  Well, I'm a student, that's why I was asking.  
0 expensive I thought.
0 A:  And there's not much of a selection, at least in my price range, like
0 A:  -- you know, they really don't have much of a chance --
0 you?
0 as a matter of fact.  They were talking about cars, uh, the car issue just
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 program, so send us twenty and we'll give you a really great upgrade.
1 A:  [Laughter] Yeah.  
0 B:  And the hardware, well, I mean, all the chips that make up the hardware are
0 B:  (( )) base.
1 be due west of them and we get a fallout cloud.
0 same position again.
0 want to attack the United States.
0 not looking to us for, you know, uh, invasion at this point [noise].
0 A:  Uh-huh {very faint}.
0 B:  So in the process of seizing, the belt spun on the pulley and wore --
0 set up.
1 A:  Yeah, I did that for about a year and had my fill of that.
0 B:  [Inhaling] Right.  Right.
0 B:  I know that's the case in my office at least.
1 B:  [Laughter] Oh, wow.  When you said you were going to school full time
1 or something like that,
0 circumstances, you know, I guess which would be while the car was running and
0 B:  #No.#  Not like she will later on.
0 A:  #Yeah when,# 
0 B:  -- all of a sudden you're paying, you're trying to decide whether you are
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  Most and ten being no restrictions at all.
1 [smack] assault rifles, you know, that's, that's, uh, made [laughter],
0 B:  Yeah.  So,
1 A:  -- you did, it really wouldn't be worth eating, so [laughter].
0 [laughter] history of, uh, of violent crimes or something then you certainly
1 don't need a hand gun.
0 B:  Right.
0 B:  Yeah.  No time.
0 job it is.  If it's a job that's, uh, dealing with say, uh, like a pharmacy job
0 some about Saturns.  I don't know [inhaling] a lot about them.  I haven't been
0 A:  Yeah [clicking].
0 B:  Uh, as rental cars.  And I've always been very impressed [swallowing] with
0 lived with us when I was a little girl for about three or four years.
1 felt really bad for putting her there [laughter] and stuff.
0 ===========================================================================
0 as, uh, highways being, uh, you know, people would dr-, have a drink of soda,
0 B:  I had a friend taking care of him and that doesn't work.  
0 B:  I mean it's a continual rotation of resources.
0 A:  Oh, does she?
1 A:  Um.  It depends.  Uh, it's hard to say because I think people were busy ten
0 B:  So there's maybe a five year gap between us.
0 B:  -- #a house# in the suburbs or,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 seem to have such a high dropout rate in the big cities.
0 then, again, I'm not quite sure where the blame ought to be put.  Uh, because
0 it directly on the school.
0 A:  Yeah.  
0 A:  Yeah.
1 interesting game to watch.  That and rugby.  I've like to watch,
0 B:  #[Laughter] Yeah.# That's just wild.  That's why it's a go-, a big college
1 fraternity guys can get together and get a good beer buzz going and do
1 year.  So you,
1 A:  Well, you know, I [laughter].
0 B:  Is he able to, uh, still do everything himself pretty well?
0 A:  Well, he was until this operation.  He has arthritis.
0 B:  Oh, yeah.
0 A:  And so, the money I have left over is pretty much put into investments.
1 A:  -- or it goes, uh, goes into the bills, you know.  One or the other
0 A:  Right.  Oh, i-, it is a budget.  I mean, I certainly #consider# --
1 A:  #So, I've# actually, probably making less money than I was when I started
0 B:  Well, that, that's true of all of us #[laughter].#
0 #time.#
1 since we play before work.
1 extent of my exercise [laughter].  It's kind of crazy.
1 A:  -- get pretty strenuous #[laughter] doing that sort of stuff.#
0 A:  Yeah.  I, I did some of that but it, the time it takes is just [laughter].
0 the system is --
0 B:  Uh-huh.  
1 B:  Uh-huh.  
0 on the F one fifties, especially like in the, in the four wheel drive models
1 B:  Yeah, I've got one little girl and, and, and a set of golf clubs, so
0 A:  -- unless you're s-, like some kind of contortionist.  
0 B:  Yeah, uh-huh.  
1 know, this r-, Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde,
0 B:  What, what if you're not doing it in order to circumvent the law though?  I
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  Well, I'm, #I'm saving.#
0 B:  Huh.
0 B:  Especially around children.  But he's really good.  I can't complain.  
0 A:  uh, is not important when you've got a dog.  Intelligence is.  
0 kind of sad when people neglect pets.  But, so let's see, h-, how old is your
0 A:  So if you terminate him, that's a loss of value.  
1 make a great deal of money,
0 talking about real trauma.  I mean trauma that extends beyond the counting of
0 A:  -- uh, sort of a, a family type, it wasn't, you know, like a commercial
0 there.
0 B:  #Really?#
1 talk to you about that #afterward, okay.#
0 oppressed region [rustling].
1 A:  I think that'd be an interesting experience.  But, uh, I haven't done that
0 A:  [Throat_clearing].  
0 B:  Yeah.  I've, I've heard some, I mean I've heard sta-, sta-, statistics and
0 themselves, they will, they will learn well.  For example, if you t-, deal
0 pay our teachers so little.
0 B:  And with, you know, with a virtually nonexistent budget they have to supply
0 A:  #Yeah.  That's true.#
0 A:  Well, I work at N C State University and I do the same thing.  I spend, I
0 teachers have to deal with.  And (( )), and by the way, that's another reason
0 growth, population growth around here [inhaling].  And, uh, [sigh] it's, uh,
0 certain age, like over twenty years old, you didn't have to get it done
1 A:  [noise] Huh.
1 and lunch.
0 she's like no I don't want her to starve.  But I don't want to make her eat
0 B:  #And just# have like t-, at the most, like ten kids.  And all from maybe
0 half of them she'd like to turn them into the state [laughter].  And that's
0 the people that are working there, you know.  And then she would like to turn
1 @B:  Uh, it, it varies.  I-, it's totally dependent upon what mood I'm in.  
0 A:  do you go to any concerts?
0 have a very stressful day at work and then I'll get home and let's, uh, pick,
1 su-, sang a couple of the songs and we've got a few thousand people singing
1 [laughter].
1 A:  So, anyway, those, #that, uh,# 
1 it was,# 
1 #The ones that are wanting,#
0 A:  -- for that period of time [swallowing].  And, uh, you know, it's, uh, how
1 any house.
1 B:  So, anyway, now she's turning our house into sort of the same thing
0 B:  Yeah.
1 B:  So, you know, he's like spinning around in this stuff, #you know.#
1 [laughter] and stop trying to help me #[laughter].#
0 nights, uh, the, we have a rule now that, that, uh, cause the kids are so
1 B:  None at all.  That's, that's a good [laughter] but, uh, #that's a# -- 
1 B:  Including yourself #[laughter] yeah.#  
1 A:  Is anybody?
0 A:  #Really?#
0 A:  -- uh, I'll be going back down there in May and hopefully be picking it up
1 B:  #Uh, a# little bit but not a whole lot.  I mean I, you'd think you would
1 A:  Well, that's the way to do it though.
1 putting,
0 professional golfer and #I, I# -- 
1 B:  -- be doing pretty well.
1 A:  [Laughter].
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 @B:  [Talking] Well, we have the, the usual automotive pollution.
1 A:  dust is pretty unique [laughter].  
0 B:  when they finally beat the Mexicans, the Mexicans said fine.  You can have
0 sometimes and bottom fished.  And, uh, [throat_clearing] and got lots of fish
0 got through reading that article, by the time I got through reading that
1 matter what I do, it's (( )) not going to help so why bother.  #Uh,#
1 yo-, you know, the same philosophy of raising children [laughter] that you did
0 B:  Yeah.  We've had, um, we're on our, um, our third.  Our, our, our second
0 six.  And the after school {mispronounced} school situation is great.  It's
0 B:  Well, yeah to a certain extent.  Uh, I guess, you know, my wife does more
0 A:  -- probably taking both you wor-, you know, you and your wife working to
0 said that, that generally, the problems that people have with being
0 B:  -- it's going to be hard pressed to p-, to put all your recyclables in that
0 B:  And Sarasota is on the west coast?
0 @@B:  Okay.  I'm,
1 B:  Okay.
0 probably should have a right to own guns if we're responsible.  Uh, I, myself,
0 the right to tell me I can't possess one.  I don't think, uh, if I'm
1 A:  Oh, is that right?
1 B:  Yeah [laughter].
1 B:  I take that back.  Rap.  But I consider rap music to be an oxymoron
1 B:  And, uh, since then it's sort of fallen into formula.
0 A:  Did you watch the, the, d-, did you watch it for very long or was it just?
0 B:  Sure. 
1 mama, I don't know if,# 
1 i-, what he came up with was the song about, uh, his mom got hit by a train,
0 Uh, when I really wish to get into [sigh] listening pleasure, uh, with
1 A:  And there were no motels in, in the [laughter] wilds of New Mexico
1 A:  -- the way of tents and, {pause} I've actually even slept on the ground
1 A:  When I left New Mexico and moved to Missouri, I would not have dreamed
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 great-grandfather, after he was, found out he was going to go into a nursing
0 process we had to remove, we tried to keep her at home.  At al-, we had to
0 A:  You're about a five you think?
0 you.#
1 @B:  Well, Governor Mario, the, uh, holy one #[laughter],#
1 assembly gets together and tries to pass a death #penalty bill.#
1 B:  And every year he vetos it #[laughter] and upsets people.#  
0 A:  It's legal down here.  Uh, I, I know they've done a few.  Most of the time,
0 taxpayers more than just putting the guy away for the rest of his life with no
0 schools #so.#
0 B:  #Exactly.#  Yeah.
0 like the kids to get their acceptance.  I find the teachers are very concerned
0 they're more in touch, uh, they're, you know, geogra-, I mean [noise], uh,
1 B:  Uh, yeah, yeah.  Yeah, I do vote.  Uh,
0 A:  #That's not a# part of your world.  
1 A:  Campus elections are more #important [laughter] I suppose.#
1 A:  -- #but# also think about this.  If they're dumb enough to not vote,
1 B:  Yeah, I mean.
0 A:  -- uh, that presents a, a real shock [laughter].
1 have,
1 A:  Oh, all right [laughter].
0 A:  And, uh, he has a teller card so he can, uh, do what he wi-, do what he
0 feel depressed because they don't, a lot of places don't have a good
1 interview, uh, nursing home directors.  Because they're looking for,
0 B:  Uh, and at the same time everybody kind of comes out happy.  I don't know
1 scale.  Being up here in the, uh, northeast, uh, I'm considered liberal
0 any means.
0 keeping automatic weapons banned.
0 There's no, no real legitimate need for one unless you consider, uh, like
0 and there's a lot of hunting that goes on.  And, uh, that I think is, by far,
1 A:  #[Laughter] Yeah.#  Yeah, [noise] it's, uh, the #N R, [laughter]# --
1 they might even get [laughter] a little carried away.
0 It's something that has to be.  And has to be, you know, highly maintained in
1 B:  Sanitation engineers.
1 A:  Oh, actually, I'm from Bronx, New York.  That's as New York as you, you can
0 A:  -- Bronx is one of the five boroughs that make up New York City and New
1 #[laughter].#
1 B:  -- over somebody's feet #[laughter].#
1 A:  #[Laughter].#
0 B:  It is old.
0 A:  -- I'm from Kansas originally.
0 A:  -- amount of respect for them.  You know, we did the hunter safety
0 know, you, you can know how to treat them or, you know, how to, to use them
0 B:  Just because it's so much easier to conceal a handgun.  It's easy for a kid
1 with handguns but, uh, like I say, I don't want anybody taking my rifles away
1 from #me [laughter].#
0 definitely go down.  And I, you know, I remember taking hunter safety and I
1 B:  #(( )).#  #Yeah.  I understand he was pro, he# --
0 middle there to where, that they maybe go overboard.
0 A:  costs and other factors justify, uh, uh, executing people.
1 #everybody else is asleep.#
1 could almost hold meetings sometimes, because people tend to set up a regular
1 that's it.
1 B:  [Laughter].
1 B:  Right [laughter].
1 A:  try to get it all in there every week and then take this fifty pound
1 B:  Framingham has a lot to catch up on.  
1 B:  Oh, God #[laughter].#
1 if it's a soggy magazine.  #Uh, we,#
1 B:  Yes [laughter].
1 A:  #So, you know,# you don't fill out Publisher's Clearing House, you know.
1 A:  #[Laughter].#
1 people about that and I've thought about it myself and I though about it a lot
0 [laughter]. 
1 Although neither kid likes to practice.
1 read that book to my kids so many times I almost have the thing memorized.
1 A:  #At least you're# sleeping.
1 A:  And you really have to wing it,
0 B:  [Noise].
1 A:  Oh, please [laughter].
1 A:  You know, sharing a room with the kids is not much of a vacation
1 #[laughter],# 
0 the east coast like you and he wants to go out to, uh, the Grand Canyon and do
1 A:  ((Well I guess)), the playgrounds used to be hot when the kids were
1 B:  -- probably be very hard to be the instructor [laughter].  #Twenty months
0 A:  So, uh, what things do you consider an invasion of privacy?
1 B:  it, uh, it destroys their libido.
0 B:  Right.
1 B:  Well, I'm sure.
0 are rumored, you know, there are already rumors of rampant alcoholism, now
1 back in.
0 B:  -- the newspaper men tell us all the politics anyway, so maybe he can just
0 I mean, how, for example, how much has it helped us as, as a people?
0 A:  You know, and then they bring up the thing about, uh, whether we should
1 until I quit going to Georgia Tech and, uh, then I learned to budget really
1 last five years and never followed through.
0 formal budget or, uh, financial plan.
0 looked at it that way and really just, you know, pinched myself in other
0 A:  #Right.#
1 B:  Oh, I know.  I mean, I've, I've had, I have a cat and #[laughter],# 
0 about what they want to do and they come out and they, they at least have, now
0 have a defense oriented military or --
0 B:  to do randomly otherwise people will cheat.
1 A:  Okay, Lewis, and maybe I'll talk to you again.
1 A:  Hello.
0 B:  Well, this should be an easy one.  I, so much so, ((like)) we could, we
1 B:  Right.  
1 A:  Yeah.  #(( )),# 
0 B:  -- for the burglar in his own home.
1 United States.
1 YORK REVIEW OF BOOKS.  You know, someone will write a book about something
0 about happened, you'd find out from friends or other channels [laughter].
0 B:  #Clarence Thomas# or,
0 A:  #Uh-huh.# 
0 and I want them to know that so I'll dress a little more formally.  I mean not
1 art department so perhaps they are a little more Bohemian but #[laughter],#
1 A:  Oh, do you [laughter]?  So I guess you've got a collection don't you?
1 B:  I guess I'm a typical oblivious male in that respect.
1 retirement you're going to have that money #[laughter],#
0 sharing so.
1 B:  So you're a home builder (( ))?
1 confess, I've never read CAR AND DRIVER or PARENTING, as a matter of fact
1 four cents each more than I sold.
0 A:  #Right.#
0 people like #everybody else# --
0 appeal and if not, you know, don't, don't let them sit up there on death row
1 A:  ((And)) the judge told them #[laughter],# 
1 #dial in and give their, uh, vote.#
1 A:  #Right.#
0 had, if you had, uh, parents say or, or, or th-, grandparents, whatever it is,
0 away.  When we visit Minnesota though we go to see her.
0 B:  Yeah.  It, it's possible, I was thinking also that there'd be, there could
0 an engineer.
1 that relaxed, right?
0 A:  Well [laughter], actually right now I'm a full time college student so my
1 A:  Wow.  That must be nice atmosphere then.
0 suit on the way people res-, reacted and responded to me as opposed to the,
0 B:  We don't have that much.  It's, uh, it's a very mild climate.
1 A:  #Boy, they, they, they're# tugging on a few strings at once, aren't they
1 know.
1 years ago?
0 A:  Okay [laughter].  
1 B:  How are you?  You want to go ahead and start talking about whether you
0 A:  (( )) I don't, uh, uh, I don't have a long-term financial plan.  I don't
1 try to control my expenses.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 money.  And we did that pretty successfully for about three months and then we
1 and,# 
0 B:  Uh, I work for Georgia Tech.  Yes sir.  I work for the research facility.
0 B:  Oh, okay.
0 B:  Right.  Uh,
1 B:  -- I mean that fits the country we live in.  #((The)) people [laughter],#
0 B:  Yeah.
0 is a big issue going on like when we were at war then I think everybody was
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  I try to fool everybody #[laughter].#
0 B:  #I don't# think, although i-, i-, I think a, a, more than one child,
1 afford three.  I most certainly couldn't educate three.
0 A:  Is it?
0 B:  It is.  Uh, AIDS is a major topic right now.  It's trendy, it's in the
1 A:  #Right, yeah.  How# can you feel when there's a sign on your door
0 B:  ((And we)), our debt.  I, I'm just #so concerned.#
1 B:  #They're ((foolishly)) spending it.#  I know.
0 B:  -- we do.
0 sure that's the way.
0 B:  #[Noise] I, I think, uh, (( )),# 
1 recently and I find that the system sucks to put it bluntly and so, you know,
0 the school board.
0 have job security, #I think# --
0 took it into a repair shop, the man told me I needed a master cylinder.  So I
0 B:  Uh, more than likely.  
0 we, you know, they told us we just had to have one and we bought one.  We
0 of funny that this is a topic of discussion.  Uh, I do, uh, some, uh,
1 B:  -- #and then,#  yes [laughter].
0 B:  A cradle for it.
1 there's no coping saw big enough to, for a fourteen inch wide watermelon
0 B:  -- #five# years.
0 have some independence still.
0 B:  They wanted some place they can go and have their meals and a nurse on
0 A:  #Yeah.#
0 A:  So, we did look around.  I think my wife is much better than I am at that
0 last company, he was only working four days a week.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 A:  I think the problems are more ones of cost and resources and, uh, pay and
1 exhaustion and #[laughter],#
0 B:  This is true.
1 B:  CURRENT AFFAIR can #[laughter],# 
0 B:  Right.  #It's just# --
1 everything no matter what I bu-, what I buy so.
0 to buy anything [laughter] that I'm afraid of reading the whole thing, so.
1 stereotype myself because I'm not all that girlish in the sense of girlish --
1 B:  Uh-huh [laughter].
1 A:  -- I don't know that I have that much more to say about wood car-,
1 [laughter],
0 A:  You know, but if it's really truly beautiful pottery and, and, you know,
0 for them, that kind of thing, so they still have their own independence and
1 day long or get them up and I would have preferred to get them up than
0 A:  #Yeah.# I, I think that's, that can happen and I think in the nursing home
1 A:  [/Noise] Uh-huh.
0 B:  -- in, in a matter of minutes --
1 B:  Yeah, yeah.  I saw that, the numbers on that awhile back and I was like,
1 and I, makes me angry when my paper boy's not there on time where I can read
1 A:  Although they're usually wrong #[laughter].#
1 would begrudge the time it takes me in the morning to catch my #morning news.#
1 A:  An-, but I can't stay up late at night to watch the late news so
0 school.  And one thing I learned, I went undergraduate to Harvard and then
0 their major on time.  Uh, #on the other hand, this is,#
0 She had been sort of protected right through high school and, and had to learn
0 A:  Um.  tha-, it's interesting.  You're approaching it from the a-, sort of
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 want to do because so many of the high schools have done such a bad job at
1 tomorrow our company, as a whole, and I guess I would call this a benefit
0 A:  -- uh, I, I asked my boss, I think we do have a Christmas party although he
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 type of thing [/noise].
1 @A:  Well, of course, it was fun for you [laughter].
1 B:  Well yeah #[laughter].#   
0 B:  Maybe it was November I'm thinking about.  I know it was doggone cold up
0 and I, I realize that, you know, it would, for that to be true you'd, you'd
0 B:  Uh-huh {very faint}.
0 basically, just absolute and complete distrust of for the politicians.
1 unemployed and how long will I get it.  You know, it's very interesting
0 well, [lipsmack] now I know how people that don't have insurance feel and on
0 A:  #((Yeah)).#
1 fine [sniffing].#
0 B:  So, you might file that if you don't mind paying the long distance charges.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  -- and they brought barrels and barrels of steamers #and [laughter],#
1 B:  #Uh-huh.#
0 A:  [Noise].
1 A:  -- tell that you were from New England #[laughter].#
1 A:  Yeah, yeah, right.  In fact, I did have to take my dog to the vet the other
0 B:  Right.  I, for, for years got paid once a month and, and in ways I liked it
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  It's, yeah, it's really bad.  
0 A:  #Right, right.#  #And I'm ta-,# 
1 B:  Oh, uh-huh.  It's so rare you hear anybody doing that #any longer
0 instead of this, uh, tugging of people's heart strings and, uh --
1 A:  Yeah.  Maybe they have a problem [laughter].
0 people from, say, Jamaica or other parts of the Caribbean.  Tha-, that's rea-,
0 A:  #[Laughter].#
1 B:  [Snorting] I don't know, it ju-, just seems too much of the money is just
0 A:  -- at what's the best buy.  It used to be you could go, if you had a
1 this wonderful idea of not taking out as much taxes,
1 spending because everything is on sale.
1 A:  Uh-huh.  #Well who knows, uh, yeah.#
0 A:  And maybe that's going to happen to America where they'll say, hey we're
0 B:  #Uh-huh.# 
0 A:  #But# I find attitudes are more of a problem.  Service is more of a
1 A:  But,
0 but they haven't, they've almost been able to push it through but people
1 kept that going for about a month and it became so onerous that we gave up on
0 many days I'm going to be called in and whether I am or not, to try to keep
0 know, try to work as many days as possible.
0 bunch of guys and they, uh, uh, and they have a good time and everything and
0 England as well --
0 B:  There's no professional hockey teams in, #in Texas (( ))
0 lay in front of a T V and watch #all this stuff.  I think it's an,#
0 A:  excuse to do nothing and I, I can see what you're saying about the male
0 @B:  I go to a family every year, religiously #[laughter].#
0 hold it, and we make every effort in the world to get the shelter house.  So
1 they're not nice but, but, uh, #you know, we don't have those# --
0 [breathing] trips all through the midwest and the east.  Uh, Lancaster,
0 [swallowing] if you can count that as camping which some people may or may
0 get out with your friends and drink beer and play radio all night.  But we do
1 A:  Well that could be.  Uh, R-, Ross Perot is not a politician.  I mean,
1 B:  that much attention.
1 A:  O-, or maybe stubborn even #[laughter] I don't know,#
0 matter how many numbers are in front of the B, you know.  It, #[laughter]# --
1 that evident to, to clients unless they feel they can, you know, tweak a jury
0 A:  #Right.#
1 A:  An-, I've never had to it since and that was almost twenty years ago
0 the home.
0 A:  So that explains wha-, all the, uh, computer assignments.
0 voting for a representative who votes for laws or whatever, you vote by what
0 A:  [Clicking] Okay.
1 B:  Not very good [laughter] #it's not been a good day [laughter].#
0 A:  -- uh, particularly, uh, in this part of the country w-, uh, I guess I do
0 B:  [Throat_clearing] I think the other problem is, you know, it, it's easy to
1 A:  [Throat_clearing] I do, yeah, that's true.  #I think in places,# 
1 A:  Uh-huh.  Well, I'll tell you.  I think that is the most important thing
1 and they can't really do anything for you anyhow, so you might as well not
0 liquids and, uh, rest.
0 completely and you're responsible for your own.
0 refrigerators into trucks and --
0 it was a border state, you know.  With half the state northern and half the
0 books right now.  I guess my feeling, you know, I can set up some hypothetical
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  Oh, yeah, RADIO MOSCOW.  It, it's gotten a lot stranger #[laughter],#
0 know [laughter].
1 [laughter].#
1 B:  Uh, yeah #[laughter].#  
0 B:  Uh, it, it's, a, a credit union league.  They're kind of a trade
0 association for credit unions.
0 it ends up costing them more because whatever, you know, men and women alike,
0 A:  Yeah.  
0 the full health and dental and, uh, we have four children and what you pay
0 get you, the orthodony will.
0 B:  #Right.#
0 A:  -- [Throat_clearing] uh, uh, I really think that we need to get into the
0 B:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  #Oh, right.  Boy, would I like to have that.#
1 to stay once you get there #[laughter].#
1 you just fly me there, I'll #take care of that [laughter].#
1 A:  #[Throat_clearing] Right.#
0 B:  Right.
0 A:  And I think that it's just is good for your self-esteem, for everything
1 #[laughter] everywhere, you know [/talking].#
1 to #touch it but I can't even do that because [laughter] of the alarm.#
0 B:  Yeah and twenty seconds you probably won't get caught in anything too
0 A:  Well I did, actually.  Last week going to the airport, I just hit a
0 self that you don't need the money for but they're giving it to other people
0 A:  And, and, do my thing, you know.  
0 B:  Yeah, yeah, it's, yeah, I mean, yeah there's, there's no way to stop, uh,
0 A:  There's no restriction though.  You don't have to wait or nothing then huh?
0 B:  #Right.#
1 A:  #Actually,# I think of it as a [throat_clearing], as a car that'll last
1 wouldn't hesitate to get another used truck.
0 A:  -- let somebody else, uh, have the showroom shine (( )) and I'll #pay for
1 the rest of it.#
1 A:  We have to, we, we'll have to face it in a couple of years #but, uh,#
1 A:  Yeah.
1 to, just to go driving?
0 B:  Yeah.
1 seem,#
1 A:  to be and I would love to know why #but I mean they do.  They have,# 
0 on these #tests.#
0 A:  [Ringing] I don't think I should have to pay for dancing lessons,
1 like down in Florida, there's a lot of strange crimes and murders that happen.
0 lot more, it seems like, here than, when I lived in Illinois, there was the
0 community to beautify it or whatever but --
1 @B:  [Clicking] [rustling] Uh, yeah. That's, that's as far back as I can
0 own age kids --
1 B:  You must have a family [laughter].
1 B:  Uh-huh.
0 time.  Not because of any great desire to like, wow we're just going to buy
1 B:  That's right [laughter].
1 conditioning on so I can hear my stereo well [laughter].
0 the air conditioning more than we do up here.
1 Rochester slash Buffalo winters [laughter],
0 B:  That's right, #right.#
0 A:  Uh-huh, uh-huh.
0 A:  -- and, you know, then maybe those other people would be kind of scared and
0 know.
0 lot of that, uh, although,
0 A:  Uh-huh.
1 A:  I read my newspaper.  
0 the coin magazine, the paper actually is what it was, you know.  I used to get
1 A:  No, huh-uh.  Uh, I think they're interesting.    
1 area disagreeing with them on everything,
0 B:  Uh, some of them.  The, the general travel magazines do.  I don't tend to
0 B:  So, as far as extra savings, we really don't have that much extra to save.
0 A:  We bought more things and it seemed like we spent more.  Then a lot of it
0 B:  Yes.  So you usually end up paying close to eighty dollars a week and
1 A:  #[Laughter].#
0 B:  #[Throat_clearing].#  #But,#
0 not they need to start with people that are [clicking] extremely poor,
1 A:  Yeah #[laughter].#  
0 exactly.  It's, uh, #there's no# --
0 ========================================================================
0 far as air pollution.  I think Grand Rapids was number one.  Uh, we really
0 even necessarily thought of that except when I lived up in Boston and up in,
1 right.  Our most pollute substance down here is just water.  But I 
1 B:  Right.
1 A:  [Laughter].
0 B:  Right.  So do #I [laughter].#
0 don't know, it, that's a, it's really weird issue.  I'm #sort of# --
0 #or,# 
0 test.
0 A:  #Yeah.  See# things like that so, 
0 A:  #See that's,# 
1 B:  Yeah.  It, it hits me as the Orwell thing.  Big brother is watching
1 A:  Yeah.
1 particular purse strings rather than the public good and by definition,
1 mean and I think that one,# 
0 B:  Yeah.
0 it's straight and I can live with it #because# --
1 B:  My daughter's like, Mommy can I help you with the laundry?  Of course, you
1 can [laughter].
0 A:  And everyone would get one vote.  And I always thought we'd get outvoted
0 B:  Yeah.
0 B:  Now that's good.  #I like# --
1 little bit,
0 A:  Sure.
0 B:  -- and I have a idea it's going to be a, a lot more equipment and a lot
0 kids they don't care, you know, uh, a l-, about a lot of things.  But as
0 B:  And there's always that, that chance that one or two people could be
1 playing devil's advocate for a good reason, you know.
1 B:  #And, and# most of the time they're looking to place blame.  #Uh# --
1 that I might have to go in for, uh, as a witness.  He may subpoena me.
0 A:  Yeah.
1 B:  Yeah.  Made the wrong, wrong career choice to get up into space [laughter].
0 eventually send someone, people to Mars but not just because it's glitzy to do
1 B:  -- now we're done [laughter].
0 another guy's ear and --
0 B:  Well, that's then, that's the thing here in, (( )) here in Texas.  We've
0 had a couple of cases in the last, one, one was, was a murder case where it
0 with it.  And they --
1 A:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  So I guess as far as looking, I said as what you're looking for, I think
0 a lot of advantages to it.
0 B:  Oh, okay.  Great.  What program you in?
1 A:  Okay.  Uh, read any good books lately?  [Laughter].  
0 B:  Right.  Well I've, I've even got a, uh, fifty dollar a month uh, uh, mutual
0 A:  Well, actually, I know some people, a, a girlfriend of mine who was married
1 B:  you know, one reason or another, just maybe get a bad bunch or whatever
1 B:  And, uh, [throat_clearing] and, of course, the hottest topic of the day
0 mean, I'm sorry, two hundred jobs open, they had two thousand applications for
1 spring chicken myself #[laughter],#
1 to do about that [laughter].
0 B:  Yeah [laughter].
0 tested for Honeywell and, uh, uh, you know, I know they didn't catch that or
1 A:  #And# this is actually a [laughter] an internship up here.  
1 A:  So, uh, there's some noise on this end.  I'm actually in a mall calling so
0 B:  Like out of nowhere?  Yeah.
0 A:  Uh-huh.  #Sure.#
1 presidency [laughter].
0 A:  Yeah.  #I think so.#
0 B:  #That is# really nice.  That's true.  I don't know anything them at all.
0 constant noise and children talking in her background.
0 B:  #Is that# the aspect of the news that you're most interested in is, is the
0 B:  So.  Uh, there's, there is some danger to that, of course, too.  Because if
0 B:  I'm more interested in trying to understand what's going on in the 
1 B:  -- and getting dinner on the table.  I come from the east coast and I was,
0 you can do in a zero gravity environment.
0 toward taking care of the environment that we have here and not so much
0 Let's try to take care of the lakes that are getting polluted and the other
0 B:  And that's certainly is a lot of students for one person #to deal# --
0 B:  Uh, and if the parents do not care enough to take an interest in whether
1 but I can kind of tell it bothers her so,
0 A:  -- and each, uh, home does participate but we really don't have anything,
0 B:  Right.  So it's, so that's nice.  It would be, it would be really nice if
1 B:  Uh-huh.  #Wow, that's cute.#
0 B:  [Static] No, you can start [laughter].
0 @B:  Uh-huh.
1 B:  So, I mean, his appeal was denied and two days later he got out of jail
0 A:  Yeah.
0 A:  No.  Not really.
0 B:  Oh, my gosh.
0 A:  [Laughter] #And (( ))# --
0 A:  And engineers are, uh, [throat_clearing] are baggage to most, uh, uh, as
0 cut back #and he's not ready to retire [/hum] [/talking].#
0 B:  #Yeah.#
0 than here for some elective surgeries #but# --
0 it's on the order of half as much, uh, as the, as the per capita average in
0 shopping spree or something, you put your phone number on there, they pass
0 merchandise.
1 address, i-, and their mother's maiden name #[laughter],#
1 A:  Aren't we cruel people?  #[laughter].#
1 few criminals out in the public square and they execute them and crime goes
0 know.  If you steal something, they cut off --
1 A:  -- your hand and --
1 would have a bunch of,# 
0 A:  #[Laughter]#  Use someone as an example and see how it worked #[laughter].#
1 that was totally against capital punishment,
1 base but,
0 B:  [Laughter] Well Unix to me, I mean, uh, that's system five.  I mean that's
1 it and they just don't want to learn something different.
0 fraud and that kind of thing, you know and that's kind of scary too
0 A:  [Children].
0 everyone has the access [squeak] to medical facilities as well as the doctors.
0 A:  #Yeah [static], yeah.#
0 to know where my tax dollars are going too.
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1 you're throwing out what you [laughter] shouldn't.  I thought that was pretty
0 A:  So that, I mean that's not too tough to put that at the end of your
0 A:  -- and they kind of leave it near the dumpster knowing that the
0 B:  #Wow.#
0 B:  #Gee.  Well I, I guess if you can buy in bulk it [snorting]# #so to speak.#
1 the bees were attracted to the coke cans and #that was the end of that.#
0 A:  Well, do you find that they, uh, tend to, after a certain period of time,
0 B:  Well, they do to some extent.  I, I hear some, some repeats between, uh,
0 I'm leaving the house at like seven fifteen,
1 baked potatoes #or, or whatever.#
0 uh what time.  It, it just, uh, you know, for me a lot of what I look for in
0 B:  and then they have appeals.  Well, that's fine but it shouldn't take more,
0 might face the punishment.
0 A:  [Throat_clearing].
0 decisions of the Vietnam war.  That the, uh, [throat_clearing] people saw the
0 than, uh, committing, uh, committing to a completely and, uh, winning it,
0 A:  Yeah.
0 B:  Do you think that the weekly magazines provide you with as much detail
1 nation's capital #[laughter] and,#
0 B:  #[Laughter] Oh,# that's right.  You're very close actually.  #It's# --
1 people inside the beltway, I'm saying to myself, hey guys, I'm inside the
0 B:  A-, the newspaper I really been impressed with it when I've read it at
0 A:  And I, and everybody was, you know, making noise in the background.  And
1 A:  -- and I said to myself, it's another Monty Python that #I didn't know
0 B:  No.
1 of bringing home my check anymore.  #It just gets deposited.  And,# 
0 it's, uh, I've just got wrapped in my inertia.  And, uh, I've just decided not
1 for budgets.
0 A:  Uh-huh.
0 uh, e-, you know, the commonwealth states could, could easily, you know,
0 investigation for, for, uh, you know, child molestation.
0 A:  #Well, not,# not all of us.  You know what the kind of things #you're
1 supposed to look for.#
0 time you can drop in.  And we had a really wonderful arrangement, uh, I'm with
1 A:  Five hundred dollars a week.
0 A:  [Clicking] Okay.  Uh, so your, you, I guess you're probably in the same,
0 B:  And then, so (( )) but she just works part-time.
0 work in pre, in the preschool and, and, and child care and she says after
0 A:  [Noise].  
0 that kind of stuff.  And he had a hundred and four fever.  They couldn't, uh,
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1 think.#
0 A:  I should hope not [laughter].  
0 you know.  Rather than just staying in the, in the, uh, in the sections that
0 A:  You know, I was just doing some thinking recently on, we only hear, we hear
1 tell them one thing on the phone, very carefully, uh, and they would report it
0 A:  It was disgusting.  And this whole thing with Willie Kennedy Smith, you
0 B:  Okay, so that --
1 project, I had the contractor do the framing and I did all the sheetrocking
1 [laughter] and the interior work [throat_clearing].
0 Arlington, actually.
0 putting, uh, pavers on top of that so.
1 B:  -- uh, no #[laughter].#
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 uses to modulate immigration.  Three actually.  One is at the high end, uh,
0 A:  Uh, [throat_clearing] that's one of the few things I guess [laughter] I
1 B:  #Well, I mean# and the two of them together.  I mean we can, it's just as
0 B:  But there's some differences in the immigrants,
0 and, uh, first of all, th-, they, I'm sorry, this, I really feel strongly
1 A:  Okay [children_yelling].  Uh, I just currently quit my job and so
0 A:  And that really helped us out a great deal.  So.  But my husband does get
1 uh, situation.  I don't think anybody around here would understand all the,
0 --
0 Back when I was in graduate school, I did all of the recycling of the, uh,
1 A:  Huh.
0 B:  -- also cause people to compact their garbage more.
0 going to do [laughter] this.
0 another job.  But, of course, that's not so easy.  You know [/noise].  Uh,
0 B:  Uh-huh.
0 B:  #I don't know.#  I've heard people using somebody elses.
1 A:  Uh, #I'm the,#
1 alone.
1 B:  Right #[laughter].#
0 B:  If they have the amount of data we can exchange.
0 got to do is point at something and #push a button.#
1 Because,# 
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0 B:  uh, uh, though, actually, in som-, actually if I h-, I have av-, I've
1 A:  Oh, really.
1 let me do that to you.
1 and you're probably sitting there thinking, my God, this is so degrading
1 #[laughter].#
0 B:  Right.  Yeah, and my grandmother was, lived to a pretty ripe old age too.
0 to it at this point with the, uh, [inhaling] level of, uh, [swallowing] uh,
0 unhappy with Bill Clinton and then they go and vote for Ross Perot and then
0 A:  Uh, I,
0 to be able to do work that doesn't pay very well.
1 A:  Yeah.  #That's true.#
1 B:  #[Laughter] As an# extreme example, right?
1 A:  Right.
1 B:  So, it's another thing.  When in doubt, don't trust the government at all
0 B:  #I've been,# I-, it seemed dangerous.  I thought is the guy a closet
0 B:  #Right.#
0 into shape.  I don't want to, I want, I mean at one point it's going to be too
0 A:  -- we've been fairly successful with those.  That's, uh, that's a kind of
1 A:  Uh, I have a, a, uh, really nice desk.  A nicer desk than I could afford.
1 B:  Yeah.  I, I've done the same.  You know, like the trim around the house
1 doors and that's a whole lot easier than doing it with a chisel #[laughter].#
0 that the, uh, as with any, any time you buy #a, a# --
1 A:  -- the bits that they give you are low end.  
0 A:  And then you take the blade to the --
0 there is a big difference between Texas and California.  #And, uh# --
1 B:  Yeah.  Well that's big up here because of the, they grow a lot of corn
0 and it turns off.
1 B:  -- of a sudden too.
0 B:  Oh, I wasn't there too long ago.  Uh.