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ruler and popup menu are the same key with a pen (and tablet) #218

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JoopN opened this issue Jun 21, 2022 · 7 comments
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ruler and popup menu are the same key with a pen (and tablet) #218

JoopN opened this issue Jun 21, 2022 · 7 comments
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@JoopN
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JoopN commented Jun 21, 2022

When I use an ordinary mouse I will develop RSI within two weeks or so. Therefore I bought a pen and tablet from Wacom and use them as a mouse, RSI gone. So I have them on every computer, all mouse are gone. In most times the right click is not a problem, the pen functions can be programmed in the driver, so no problems. But in FidoCadJ two functions are fighting which can go first. Or I do get the ruler or I get the pop up menu with functions like parameter field and so on. I think it would be an option to make an other button or may be more buttons in which you can choose or ruler, or pop up or (what I have still to find out ;-)). Sorry, this happens when you are going to translate, sometimes you have to test to get the right idea and the right translation.

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IIRC you get a ruler when you right-click and drag.
May it happen that with the pen you right-click and move a little the cursor? In this case, the event is recognized as a right-click and drag instead of a simple right-click.
BTW, I implemented the ruler function many years ago when I had a G5 iMac with a mouse. I never use the ruler as I only exploit a trackpad now and I no longer use a mouse.

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JoopN commented Jun 25, 2022

The tip of the pen is the left click or mouse button 1, the right click is programmed to the second button, mouse button 2. Mouse button 3 has no function because its a very difficult to reach it and hold you tip still. There are the next combinations. Hover and use second button, or rest on the tip and therefore use left click or mouse button 1. If I draw a line then its sometimes difficult to choose the line. May be its me that you react a little different day by day. Sometimes its very difficult to get the popup menu and you get always a green lined box with figures. Or you get the popup menu straight away. If it doesn't go I enlarge the drawing so everything is a little bigger and more easy to choose.

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I think the right button + drag was not well chosen in the first place. It is not a common gesture and it is almost impossible to do with a trackpad or an alternative pointing device.
What shall be used instead? A key+click and draw? Which key so that it is something that people may found intuitive?

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JoopN commented Jun 28, 2022

That's a little difficult. I have made a drawing in which I used the ruler very often. But it would be no trouble to hit a button in the tools menu just for making measurements. If you want to make measurements in order to check if your right or wrong with dimensions I think you don't want to change anything by accident. Therefore a button for switching to measurements (and therefore switching of the popup menu with also items like delete) seems to me the logical choice, after all its a tool.

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DarwinNE commented Jul 3, 2022

Maybe the best trade-off would be to associate click and draw with a keyboard button.

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JoopN commented Jul 3, 2022

I find out that its more the problem of catching the point with the pen. Might be that my pen tip sees more then a mouse pointer. Sometimes straight away the right menu, sometimes the green square keeps coming. For me I don't move the pen, but when I want to set the point to 100.100 with "snap to grid" off then I see the figures going up and down with one or more pixels. I have to push the button on the pen, so tiny movements are there.

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DarwinNE commented Jul 4, 2022

I think I see what is going on. I will check.

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