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Consider alternate J glyph for Noto Sans #3

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claysmalley opened this issue Oct 18, 2023 · 2 comments
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Consider alternate J glyph for Noto Sans #3

claysmalley opened this issue Oct 18, 2023 · 2 comments
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@claysmalley
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From osm-americana/openstreetmap-americana#965:

I never even noticed that Noto Sans gives the capital J a descender. I guess I can live with that, but do we have any way to exclude descenders from text measurements?
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The ss04 feature tag gives Noto Sans a shorter J, but also a sans-serif I. Is it possible to freeze one glyph and not another?

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I'd think we'd also want a sans-serif I. It's a bit strange that Noto Sans(-serif) has serif I by default. All the other fonts we considered have a sans-serif I as you'd expect in a sans-serif font.

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1ec5 commented Oct 18, 2023

For reference, major traffic sign typefaces have a sans-serif capital I, including:

  • Highway Gothic 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇦🇺🇳🇿🇨🇳🇮🇳🇸🇬🇲🇴🇲🇾🇳🇱🇵🇭🇪🇸🇹🇼🇹🇭🇹🇷
  • Clearview 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇧🇷🇮🇩🇮🇱🇵🇭🇱🇰
  • DIN 🇩🇪🇨🇿🇱🇻🇿🇦🇸🇬🇧🇳🇸🇾🇻🇳
  • Motorway 🇬🇧
  • Transport 🇬🇧

One use case for a serif I would be the Roman numerals on India’s national expressways. However, we could simply swap out the ASCII letters in this conversion code for Roman numeral symbols. If a given font lacks serifs on those symbols, then I think that’s a strong justification for omitting the serifs.

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