diff --git a/lib/Controller/SignalingController.php b/lib/Controller/SignalingController.php
index de5518e0f79..bcad873c0f7 100644
--- a/lib/Controller/SignalingController.php
+++ b/lib/Controller/SignalingController.php
@@ -382,11 +382,11 @@ protected function getUsersInRoom(Room $room, int $pingTimestamp): array {
 		$timestamp = min($this->timeFactory->getTime() - (self::PULL_MESSAGES_TIMEOUT + 10), $pingTimestamp);
 		// "- 1" is needed because only the participants whose last ping is
 		// greater than the given timestamp are returned.
-		$participants = $this->participantService->getParticipantsForRoom($room);
+		$participants = $this->participantService->getParticipantsForAllSessions($room, $timestamp - 1);
 		foreach ($participants as $participant) {
 			$session = $participant->getSession();
 			if (!$session instanceof Session) {
-				// User is not active
+				// This is just to make Psalm happy, since we select by session it's always with one.
 				continue;
 			}
 
diff --git a/lib/Service/ParticipantService.php b/lib/Service/ParticipantService.php
index 8459b71596f..6a20eb32383 100644
--- a/lib/Service/ParticipantService.php
+++ b/lib/Service/ParticipantService.php
@@ -603,22 +603,27 @@ public function getParticipantsForRoom(Room $room): array {
 
 	/**
 	 * @param Room $room
+	 * @param int $maxAge
 	 * @return Participant[]
 	 */
-	public function getParticipantsWithSession(Room $room): array {
+	public function getParticipantsForAllSessions(Room $room, int $maxAge = 0): array {
 		$query = $this->connection->getQueryBuilder();
 
 		$helper = new SelectHelper();
 		$helper->selectAttendeesTable($query);
 		$helper->selectSessionsTable($query);
-		$query->from('talk_attendees', 'a')
+		$query->from('talk_sessions', 's')
 			->leftJoin(
-				'a', 'talk_sessions', 's',
+				's', 'talk_attendees', 'a',
 				$query->expr()->eq('s.attendee_id', 'a.id')
 			)
 			->where($query->expr()->eq('a.room_id', $query->createNamedParameter($room->getId(), IQueryBuilder::PARAM_INT)))
 			->andWhere($query->expr()->isNotNull('s.id'));
 
+		if ($maxAge > 0) {
+			$query->andWhere($query->expr()->gt('s.last_ping', $query->createNamedParameter($maxAge, IQueryBuilder::PARAM_INT)));
+		}
+
 		return $this->getParticipantsFromQuery($query, $room);
 	}
 
diff --git a/lib/Signaling/BackendNotifier.php b/lib/Signaling/BackendNotifier.php
index 1d5be017f7d..a1ec485322a 100644
--- a/lib/Signaling/BackendNotifier.php
+++ b/lib/Signaling/BackendNotifier.php
@@ -311,8 +311,13 @@ public function roomInCallChanged(Room $room, int $flags, array $sessionIds): vo
 		$changed = [];
 		$users = [];
 
-		$participants = $this->participantService->getParticipantsForRoom($room);
+		$participants = $this->participantService->getParticipantsForAllSessions($room);
 		foreach ($participants as $participant) {
+			$session = $participant->getSession();
+			if (!$session instanceof Session) {
+				continue;
+			}
+
 			$attendee = $participant->getAttendee();
 			if ($attendee->getActorType() !== Attendee::ACTOR_USERS
 				&& $attendee->getActorType() !== Attendee::ACTOR_GUESTS) {
@@ -320,29 +325,22 @@ public function roomInCallChanged(Room $room, int $flags, array $sessionIds): vo
 			}
 
 			$data = [
-				'inCall' => Participant::FLAG_DISCONNECTED,
-				'lastPing' => 0,
-				'sessionId' => '0',
+				'inCall' => $session->getInCall(),
+				'lastPing' => $session->getLastPing(),
+				'sessionId' => $session->getSessionId(),
+				'nextcloudSessionId' => $session->getSessionId(),
 				'participantType' => $attendee->getParticipantType(),
 			];
 			if ($attendee->getActorType() === Attendee::ACTOR_USERS) {
 				$data['userId'] = $attendee->getActorId();
 			}
 
-			$session = $participant->getSession();
-			if ($session instanceof Session) {
-				$data['inCall'] = $session->getInCall();
-				$data['lastPing'] = $session->getLastPing();
-				$data['sessionId'] = $session->getSessionId();
-				$data['nextcloudSessionId'] = $session->getSessionId();
-
-				if ($session->getInCall() !== Participant::FLAG_DISCONNECTED) {
-					$users[] = $data;
-				}
+			if ($session->getInCall() !== Participant::FLAG_DISCONNECTED) {
+				$users[] = $data;
+			}
 
-				if (\in_array($session->getSessionId(), $sessionIds, true)) {
-					$changed[] = $data;
-				}
+			if (\in_array($session->getSessionId(), $sessionIds, true)) {
+				$changed[] = $data;
 			}
 		}
 
diff --git a/lib/Signaling/Messages.php b/lib/Signaling/Messages.php
index 8f695442c0c..418bf24bd2d 100644
--- a/lib/Signaling/Messages.php
+++ b/lib/Signaling/Messages.php
@@ -95,7 +95,7 @@ public function addMessageForAllParticipants(Room $room, string $message): void
 				]
 			);
 
-		$participants = $this->participantService->getParticipantsWithSession($room);
+		$participants = $this->participantService->getParticipantsForAllSessions($room);
 		foreach ($participants as $participant) {
 			$session = $participant->getSession();
 			if ($session instanceof Session) {